Maximise your Avios, air miles and hotel points

  • simonjones 62 posts

    I’m a gold member and wish to book a flight ticket which is 800 all inclusive of taxes etc , what amount of avios am I gonna get roughly

    Froggee 828 posts

    6,500.

    Or maybe 5,500

    But definitely less than 7,200.

    simonjones 62 posts

    Thanks am I correct to say if I book via travel agent and it’s a net fare I’ll get way more than that flight is Lon hkg return on BA

    Mouse 154 posts

    I recently booked a ticket via a corporate travel agent that was quoted at ~£11,500. The BA app is showing eligible spend for avios calculation of about £8,000. A dummy booking shows taxes & fees on the route of about £800. So something doesn’t add up. Not sure whether BA is ripping me off or the travel agent…

    BA Flyer IHG Stayer 1,856 posts

    look at the fare breakdown – (base fare + BA surcharges) X gold multiplier

    JDB 4,147 posts

    I recently booked a ticket via a corporate travel agent that was quoted at ~£11,500. The BA app is showing eligible spend for avios calculation of about £8,000. A dummy booking shows taxes & fees on the route of about £800. So something doesn’t add up. Not sure whether BA is ripping me off or the travel agent…

    Quite possibly because the company and/or agent has a net fare deal, although the blurb around the new system suggested these undisclosed fares might not be captured.

    Froggee 828 posts

    @simonjones – not guaranteed. If the ticket is a cheapie (which it probably will be) then you’ll get 4,504 Avios as per BA’s completely infallible tool.

    London (LHR) to Hong Kong (HKG) on British Airways each-way

    Class Avios
    Economy lowest (Q, O, G)
    2252

    Economy low (K, L, M, N, S, V)
    4503

    Economy flexible (Y, B, H)
    9006

    Froggee 828 posts

    HK will be more like 5,500 Avios under new method as roughly £170 of charges excluding BA silliness.

    Mouse 154 posts

    Quite possibly because the company and/or agent has a net fare deal, although the blurb around the new system suggested these undisclosed fares might not be captured.

    Hi @JDB – I’m not familiar with the concept of a net fair deal, would you be able to kindly point me towards a reference or offer a brief description?

    mgmgmgmg 20 posts

    If you are solver at booking, but gold on day of flight, what rate then?

    JDB 4,147 posts

    Quite possibly because the company and/or agent has a net fare deal, although the blurb around the new system suggested these undisclosed fares might not be captured.

    Hi @JDB – I’m not familiar with the concept of a net fair deal, would you be able to kindly point me towards a reference or offer a brief description?

    Some companies and or their business travel agents have net fare deals on certain routes they use heavily and this arrangement is separate from any annual rebate deals they may have. I’m not saying that this is the explanation for what you describe, but it’s possible.

    In essence, the airline will agree a fixed price on a certain route for fully flexible, refundable tickets with no capacity control at a significant discount to the published full fare which is what will show on the ticket. They will guarantee certain minimum pax and there might also some slight recalibration allowed within the agreement. Corporates have similar deals very attractive deals with hotels.

    Mouse 154 posts

    Some companies and or their business travel agents have net fare deals on certain routes they use heavily and this arrangement is separate from any annual rebate deals they may have. I’m not saying that this is the explanation for what you describe, but it’s possible.

    In essence, the airline will agree a fixed price on a certain route for fully flexible, refundable tickets with no capacity control at a significant discount to the published full fare which is what will show on the ticket. They will guarantee certain minimum pax and there might also some slight recalibration allowed within the agreement. Corporates have similar deals very attractive deals with hotels.

    Thank-you @JDB. Very interesting. If the travel agent is keeping £2k rebate per ticket then I am in the wrong business!

    JDB 4,147 posts

    @mouse the agent isn’t keeping the difference. BA is only billing the net fare and it is fully transparent with the corporate client. The agent gets a transaction fee for admin/ticketing etc.

    The corporate travel world is not very lucrative these days; it’s a volume business. In the old days of 9% commissions + override commissions it was very attractive.

    Mouse 154 posts

    @JDB but why would the travel agent quote me the full price when I am booking?

    JDB 4,147 posts

    @JDB but why would the travel agent quote me the full price when I am booking?

    The agent shouldn’t be disclosing the net fare to you but I have no idea about the situation you have encountered, but was merely surmising a possible reason. I know from having once helped set up an agency and subsequently being on the other side of the fence and negotiating these deals (as the only person with an inside track; otherwise not my job at all) that our tickets said £x on them on them although we only paid c. 60% of that sum. The rates were known internally as people had to justify travelling BA as our net fare with two other airlines on the same transatlantic route(s) was £500-£750 less.

    Mouse 154 posts

    Thanks again @JDB, very interesting.

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