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We were flying BA next February to Shanghai and back from Beijing. As BA has now cancelled Beijing, I understand we can ask to be rerouted using another airline or get a refund. However, we now want to travel in September instead and I believe BA is unlikely going to agree to using changing our dates to then. So I wonder if we should hold on to our tickets to see if BA will also cancel the Shanghai leg later, and hopefully that may increase our chances of getting a later date reroute. Any thoughts please?
I think if they were going to cancel Shanghai they would have done it by now.
Your ticket validity won’t reach Sept 2025 anyways.
I think you will struggle with BA on this despite the regulation being clear under article 8 that the choice is yours. After Covid, BA refused this but lost so many CEDR that they relented and allowed covid tickets to be extended and flown.
My advice is ask, they can only say no. They might for example allow you to fly to/from Shanghai.
Cancelling is the very last thing you should do.
@Paul – it’s really rather pointless repeatedly posting the link to that twenty year old legislation (some of the preamble is more recent but the core text is from 2004) when its application is governed by over 70 higher court decisions and countless other ADR and county court decisions. How does that help anyone? The other elements you posit are nonsense as well.
The customer guidelines are very clear
You can re-route at a later date beyond ticket validity, but you have to have a pretty good reason why you want to do that and be prepared to argue for it with evidence. Covid was one such reason hence why everyone fought for it.
Simply wanting to go at a later date won’t cut it.
@Paul – it’s really rather pointless repeatedly posting the link to that twenty year old legislation (some of the preamble is more recent but the core text is from 2004) when its application is governed by over 70 higher court decisions and countless other ADR and county court decisions. How does that help anyone? The other elements you posit are nonsense as well.
The Uk adopted EU261 when it left the EU and it is now UK 261. The link is to current legislation as can be noted if you drill down into the details. It remains the basis of the rules and none of the articles have been overridden by case law or governmental changes.
The customer guidelines are very clear
BA guidelines are indeed very clear but they conflict with the regulation in that they limit who you can travel with. This may be entirely satisfactory to many, even to all, but it does not change the fact that BA guidance cannot override UK law.
BA guidelines are indeed very clear but they conflict with the regulation in that they limit who you can travel with.
You don’t get to choose which airline to be re-routed with. I had this argument on a different thread, to point out that for a cancellation the airline can’t just send you on THEIR next available flight – but on THE next available flight. Regardless of carrier.
Given the cancellation is in the future, it would be difficult to argue a different carrier if the re-routing gets you there the same day.
@Paul – it’s really rather pointless repeatedly posting the link to that twenty year old legislation (some of the preamble is more recent but the core text is from 2004) when its application is governed by over 70 higher court decisions and countless other ADR and county court decisions. How does that help anyone? The other elements you posit are nonsense as well.
The Uk adopted EU261 when it left the EU and it is now UK 261. The link is to current legislation as can be noted if you drill down into the details. It remains the basis of the rules and none of the articles have been overridden by case law or governmental changes.
Yes @Paul, as I stated the UK law (which isn’t called UK261) copies the 2004 EC261 articles verbatim, so the reference to “drill down into the details” merely compounds your ongoing error. The UK version of EC261 makes no changes to the 2004 text, so for example although enacted long after Sturgeon has no reference to delay compensation. There are some 70 ECJ, Court of Appeal and Supreme Court decisions which are precedents UK courts are obliged to follow and the ADR services are likely to follow; to suggest otherwise is too ridiculous for words when such cases are being decided every day.
This is presumably also where you get your erroneous interpretation of “at the passenger’s convenience’ and the further incorrect advice about BA’s rebooking guidelines ‘conflicting’ or not being compliant with the law. This is why it is so unhelpful just to link to the legislation when interpreting the words and how courts apply the law in practice is what actually matters and it’s equally unhelpful to suggest people have carte blanche following a cancellation.
Lo and behold, my LHR to Shanghai leg has also been cancelled today!
Shanghai for March has also just been cancelled….I have been offered the next day though so might just be certain days
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