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Best way to spend 90k points getting to Australia, please?

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  • nectar collector

    Well….I’ve just rerun the dummy booking and it’s now showing a different set of part pay options starting at 1000 Avios up to 72300 for A$558 ..definitely different to what it showed me 15 mins ago….beginning to doubt my own sanity ……. Sorry, I know this doesn’t help!

    NorthernLass

    These are the options ba.com is giving me, but they are quoting AUS $1900 for inbound one-way on March 17th so going via QR might be better?
    A$18 off with 1000 Avios

    A$36 off with 3050 Avios

    A$63 off with 6450 Avios

    A$99 off with 11400 Avios

    A$135 off with 16500 Avios

    A$207 off with 26600 Avios

    A$297 off with 38500 Avios

    A$450 off with 58350 Avios

    A$558 off with 72300 Avios

    I think sometimes the avios options do change, I don’t know if there’s an algorithm involved?!

    VerdantBacon

    Also getting the same options as NorthernLass and nectar collector have above, much lower than 50% off the base fare!

    goldengirl22

    Huh, that is crazy! No fault on your parts! Thank you for going through the effort for me! I wish I could do this myself but I don’t want to commit to Avios when I might use Asia Miles instead.

    Could I possibly ask for one more dummy search? On BA.com the following return flights are coming to £1323 and it’s giving me £20 off with 2k. Could you possibly try it and see what it offers you both? Thank you!

    LHR-MEL Feb 25th 08:05-18:25(+1d) Qatar
    SYD-LHR Mar 17th 22:00-13:20(+1d) Qatar

    VerdantBacon

    20 off for 2000
    40 off for 6100
    70 off for 12900
    110 off for 22800
    150 off for 33000
    230 off for 53200
    330 off for 77000
    500 off for 116700
    620 off for 144600

    Options that are coming up for me on these flights

    Jamie.

    @goldengirl22 if you’re looking for the lowest possible cash outlay, I think routing back with Qatar via Adelaide (as nectar collector highlighted earlier in the thread) is probably your best option.

    Outbound: 25th Feb 2023 LHR-DOH-SYD: 45,000 Avios + £249 taxes
    Return: 17th March 2023 ADL-DOH-LHR: 45,000 Avios + £143 taxes

    The price of a cash ticket from Sydney to Adelaide is currently £80-£100 (or Melbourne to Adelaide £50-80).

    That’s a total cash outlay of less than £500 total.

    nectar collector

    Huh, that is crazy! No fault on your parts! Thank you for going through the effort for me! I wish I could do this myself but I don’t want to commit to Avios when I might use Asia Miles instead.

    Could I possibly ask for one more dummy search? On BA.com the following return flights are coming to £1323 and it’s giving me £20 off with 2k. Could you possibly try it and see what it offers you both? Thank you!

    LHR-MEL Feb 25th 08:05-18:25(+1d) Qatar
    SYD-LHR Mar 17th 22:00-13:20(+1d) Qatar

    Yes, starts at £20 for 2k up to £330 for 77k . No higher option for less than 90k, max is £620 for 144600

    goldengirl22

    20 off for 2000
    40 off for 6100
    70 off for 12900
    110 off for 22800
    150 off for 33000
    230 off for 53200
    330 off for 77000
    500 off for 116700
    620 off for 144600

    Options that are coming up for me on these flights

    Ah, so it gets weaker the more points you use? That’s unusual but thank you for checking! Would you be able to check the same flights on Qatar for the Avios redemptions options too? No worries if not!

    goldengirl22

    @goldengirl22 if you’re looking for the lowest possible cash outlay, I think routing back with Qatar via Adelaide (as nectar collector highlighted earlier in the thread) is probably your best option.

    Outbound: 25th Feb 2023 LHR-DOH-SYD: 45,000 Avios + £249 taxes
    Return: 17th March 2023 ADL-DOH-LHR: 45,000 Avios + £143 taxes

    The price of a cash ticket from Sydney to Adelaide is currently £80-£100 (or Melbourne to Adelaide £50-80).

    That’s a total cash outlay of less than £500 total.

    Ah, yes! I have a note of that too. I may have to do this if it save me money in the long run but it will also depend on my plans too. I guess I’d have to make sure I get to Adelaide with enough time to collect my luggage and check back in again? A bit of a pain but it might be worth the hassle if it’s the best I can find.

    Thanks!

    goldengirl22

    Huh, that is crazy! No fault on your parts! Thank you for going through the effort for me! I wish I could do this myself but I don’t want to commit to Avios when I might use Asia Miles instead.

    Could I possibly ask for one more dummy search? On BA.com the following return flights are coming to £1323 and it’s giving me £20 off with 2k. Could you possibly try it and see what it offers you both? Thank you!

    LHR-MEL Feb 25th 08:05-18:25(+1d) Qatar
    SYD-LHR Mar 17th 22:00-13:20(+1d) Qatar

    Yes, starts at £20 for 2k up to £330 for 77k . No higher option for less than 90k, max is £620 for 144600

    Thank you for looking! So that’s 77k + £1k for return. Quite a bit!

    VerdantBacon

    20 off for 2000
    40 off for 6100
    70 off for 12900
    110 off for 22800
    150 off for 33000
    230 off for 53200
    330 off for 77000
    500 off for 116700
    620 off for 144600

    Options that are coming up for me on these flights

    Ah, so it gets weaker the more points you use? That’s unusual but thank you for checking! Would you be able to check the same flights on Qatar for the Avios redemptions options too? No worries if not!

    Maximum discount on QR is 669 off for 83,893, QR’s price is 1,337.44 so a touch higher

    nectar collector

    Huh, that is crazy! No fault on your parts! Thank you for going through the effort for me! I wish I could do this myself but I don’t want to commit to Avios when I might use Asia Miles instead.

    Could I possibly ask for one more dummy search? On BA.com the following return flights are coming to £1323 and it’s giving me £20 off with 2k. Could you possibly try it and see what it offers you both? Thank you!

    LHR-MEL Feb 25th 08:05-18:25(+1d) Qatar
    SYD-LHR Mar 17th 22:00-13:20(+1d) Qatar

    Yes, starts at £20 for 2k up to £330 for 77k . No higher option for less than 90k, max is £620 for 144600

    Thank you for looking! So that’s 77k + £1k for return. Quite a bit!

    Yes……it’s a feature of part pay with Avios that the ‘exchange rate’ gets worse the higher number of Avios you use…..goes back to the point about base value of Avios if you convert them to nectar, which is fixed at 0.67 per point. Your 77k would be worth £515 on that basis, but 2k would only be worth £13.40 instead of the £20 BA/Qatar are offering

    goldengirl22

    20 off for 2000
    40 off for 6100
    70 off for 12900
    110 off for 22800
    150 off for 33000
    230 off for 53200
    330 off for 77000
    500 off for 116700
    620 off for 144600

    Options that are coming up for me on these flights

    Ah, so it gets weaker the more points you use? That’s unusual but thank you for checking! Would you be able to check the same flights on Qatar for the Avios redemptions options too? No worries if not!

    Maximum discount on QR is 669 off for 83,893, QR’s price is 1,337.44 so a touch higher

    Ah, thank you! So that’s 83,893 + £668. That’s slightly better! The best I have found shopping around, except returning from Adelaide.

    goldengirl22

    Huh, that is crazy! No fault on your parts! Thank you for going through the effort for me! I wish I could do this myself but I don’t want to commit to Avios when I might use Asia Miles instead.

    Could I possibly ask for one more dummy search? On BA.com the following return flights are coming to £1323 and it’s giving me £20 off with 2k. Could you possibly try it and see what it offers you both? Thank you!

    LHR-MEL Feb 25th 08:05-18:25(+1d) Qatar
    SYD-LHR Mar 17th 22:00-13:20(+1d) Qatar

    Yes, starts at £20 for 2k up to £330 for 77k . No higher option for less than 90k, max is £620 for 144600

    Thank you for looking! So that’s 77k + £1k for return. Quite a bit!

    Yes……it’s a feature of part pay with Avios that the ‘exchange rate’ gets worse the higher number of Avios you use…..goes back to the point about base value of Avios if you convert them to nectar, which is fixed at 0.67 per point. Your 77k would be worth £515 on that basis, but 2k would only be worth £13.40 instead of the £20 BA/Qatar are offering

    Makes sense! A shame though.

    Lyn

    Just in case you can’t use points for the long-haul flights, or don’t use all of them, it is worth noting that Avios can be very useful for internal Qantas flights within Australia. This includes business class flights which would give you access to Qantas business class lounges.

    goldengirl22

    Just in case you can’t use points for the long-haul flights, or don’t use all of them, it is worth noting that Avios can be very useful for internal Qantas flights within Australia. This includes business class flights which would give you access to Qantas business class lounges.

    Oh, thank you! I didn’t realise that but that’s great! Does that include Jetstar too, by any chance?

    goldengirl22

    Does anyone have enough Krisflyer or partner points to check Singapore Airlines for me, for how much Points + Cash would reduce a flight? It’s coming up to £1536 for me but a lot of it is fare. The flights are:

    LHR-MEL Feb 25th 09:10-18:10(+1d)
    SYD-LHR Mar 17th 19:10-07:20(+1d)

    Thank you!

    Lyn

    Just in case you can’t use points for the long-haul flights, or don’t use all of them, it is worth noting that Avios can be very useful for internal Qantas flights within Australia. This includes business class flights which would give you access to Qantas business class lounges.

    Oh, thank you! I didn’t realise that but that’s great! Does that include Jetstar too, by any chance?

    I think several HfPers do this, for Qantas flights at least.

    Jetstar lounge access rules (and points accrual) are complicated, and seem to depend on the Jetstar booking class. The problem is that Jetstar is not, as far as I know, part of OneWorld. You’d have to look very carefully at the Qantas web-site. Personally I try to stick to Qantas flights and so far have have managed to avoid Jetstar flights completely.

    JDB

    Just in case you can’t use points for the long-haul flights, or don’t use all of them, it is worth noting that Avios can be very useful for internal Qantas flights within Australia. This includes business class flights which would give you access to Qantas business class lounges.

    Oh, thank you! I didn’t realise that but that’s great! Does that include Jetstar too, by any chance?

    I think several HfPers do this, for Qantas flights at least.

    Jetstar lounge access rules (and points accrual) are complicated, and seem to depend on the Jetstar booking class. The problem is that Jetstar is not, as far as I know, part of OneWorld. You’d have to look very carefully at the Qantas web-site. Personally I try to stick to Qantas flights and so far have have managed to avoid Jetstar flights completely.

    I have recently booked some Qantas domestic flights on Avios and the availability was good but it doesn’t seem to offer Qantas Connect flights or Jetstar ones. I’m not expecting much of Jetstar but it suited me to fly direct to Launceston, Tasmania from Sydney and for £80 with luggage and front row seat I will live with it.

    The Savage Squirrel

    I have recently booked some Qantas domestic flights on Avios and the availability was good but it doesn’t seem to offer Qantas Connect flights or Jetstar ones. I’m not expecting much of Jetstar but it suited me to fly direct to Launceston, Tasmania from Sydney and for £80 with luggage and front row seat I will live with it.

    My Aussie-based frequent flyer relative calls them Deathstar 😀

    More seriously, I do agree that Qantas domestic can be a very useful use of Avios (and by extension Amex MR) which may help the OP if travelling internally. Good example: the transcontinental flights East Coast to Perth on the A330s have long-haul type business class seats, (so a real difference in experience), and plenty of availability. Your 90k will easily cover a transcontinental flight there and back for two people with only £90 in charges on top. Nothing not to like there…

    goldengirl22

    I’ve decided to go for the 90k + £400 return flights from Melbourne for my dates. I will have to wait until the weekend to book them so hopefully the seats will still remain! I will also have to transfer across the points, which they say can take 48 hours.

    I will look into using my remaining points for domestic flights. Hopefully I can use it for at least one of the flights!

    Thanks everyone!

    Colin MacKinnon

    With my Air Tahiti Nui flight from Tokyo to Tahiti cancelled, it looks like I might have to fall back on my Auckland-Tahiti back-up flights.

    I haven’t quite reached the spend on my new BA card. Could someone who has please check for flights from EDI-SYD or INV-SYD for, say, 24-29 August. Need to be in Auckland for the 31st.

    Wouldn’t mind even just to Doha – I see QR have double points availability for 1st Class on the A380 DOH-SYD!

    OK, voucher credited this morning. Thanks to Anna and all at HfP!

    So online to BA to book INV-LHR-SYD with a BA Amex 241 next August.

    I can tell you that there was oodles (ie 5 or 6 seats in CW many days!) of availability from Edinburgh and Inverness (sometimes on the BA page a day would show as Not Available, but when you clicked it was available. Sats and Suns seemed unavailable). Presumably Glasgow, Man, Belfast also will work. Maybe Jersey?

    The new BA Amex availability – which doesn’t show direct from London – was astounding. Nice train ride London to Edinburgh and the bus/tram to the airport, book the return back to London, or from London City to Edinburgh (nudge, nudge!)

    NorthernLass

    It will be hilarious if BA’s flaky IT makes it so that the extra availability applies disproportionately to regional departures! Whether it would be worth the purgatory of the MAN experience though … ? I’ve found some interesting potential uses of the new voucher such as GCM-MRU-GCM which, allowing for some luck with dates being available, allow you to get 2 long haul trips out of one. You can’t include a regional connection in these so you’d have to factor that in separately – though for LGW departures, such as MRU, this would be necessary anyway while there’s no MAN connection.

    Colin MacKinnon

    Yes, was wondering about the two long-haul thing.

    But was desperate to get August’s trip booked and out the way on points rather than cash – mum’s care home fees just gone up £7,000 a year, wood pellets for our boiler now £585 a tonne (was £210 in February and we don’t get the RHI stuff), and no government help on lecky since we just have one (commercial) meter for the house and business.

    Colin MacKinnon

    OK< now there are new RFS prices…

    Can anyone with a new style Amex 241 tell me of any Business Class availability EDI-SYD please.

    Looking at departing 22-28 August 2023.

    Of course, having used mine for an ex-Inv booking on the 24th, I now can’t view ex-Edinburgh!

    (Would save me using my bus pass for the trip to Inverness!!)

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