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  • Mynki 29 posts

    Hello all

    We need to fly to Singapore early next year and have a 2 for 1 voucher. This route seems very ‘competitive’ when it comes to business or premium economy.

    We will also be flying back from Hong Kong (Cruise).

    Is it possible to use the 2 for 1 voucher with this route? Or due to the difference in miles, is this a non starter?

    Would it be feasible to look at using Iberia etc? If anyone has any advice we’d be greatly appreciative.

    Thanks in advance.

    travelmonkey 93 posts

    Yes, you can “open jaw” your companion voucher and standard open jaw rules apply (the open leg must be shorter than either flown leg). gcmap is great to check that you – in this example your cruise is only 1,587mi, so much shorter than either flight: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lhr-sin-hkg-lhr

    Iberia don’t fly to either destination, so that’s a non-starter for you I’m afraid.

    Regarding actually booking, you may need to be really on it to secure what you want to do…

    You will want to try booking your outbound leg at midnight when the flight is put on the system 355 days ahead of time, so at midnight tonight Jan 4th 2026 will be released. Being on the phone is the most reliable way to achieve this, especially if you want business class, but is still far from guaranteed. Plenty of info and articles about how this is done. That said, amazingly there is still PE seats for Friday 2nd Jan 2026.

    You will also be want to get your outbound booked before your return has been released, so look up how to add the return flight. (This will involved a phone call, but not neccessarily at midnight depending on how competitive it is – there are no seats at all showing for January 2026 at the moment, even in economy)

    Given you may not get your first choice of either flight, be prepared to be a little flexible on your dates. Don’t make your first attempt at the Singapore flight the last possible date you could fly, or you risk being disappointed.

    NorthernLass 10,480 posts

    @Mynki, there is lots of advice here which you’ll find helpful – read everything on this site about booking at T-355, booking the return, open jaw routes (yours is fine, btw). I don’t think IB flies to SIN or HKG so that’s probably not an option (and another reason why there’s so much competition for the BA services).

    When you say “early next year”, when do you mean, exactly? Award seats are now being released up to Jan 3rd so you may need to get moving. (SeatSpy is showing 2 x PE on Jan 2nd if those are any use to you).

    Mynki 29 posts

    Hi. I get the T-355. Looking at flying around January 11th to 13th so I know I’ll need to book in a week or so.

    Will check Iberia.

    Thanks for the reply.

    Is it best to call at 11.45pm still rather than waiting to book online? Or have I misunderstood that?

    NorthernLass 10,480 posts

    If you have a look at recent pages on the long “booking the return at T-355” thread, readers have posted about various experiences lately, with varying degrees of success.

    https://www.headforpoints.com/forums/topic/booking-return-leg-with-companion-voucher/

    sloth 379 posts

    I’m doing this journey in a couple of weeks although minus the cruise…it’s fine to use your 241 for it. Just make sure you select the same Avios cash combo on both journeys to avoid issues

    Mynki 29 posts

    I’m doing this journey in a couple of weeks although minus the cruise…it’s fine to use your 241 for it. Just make sure you select the same Avios cash combo on both journeys to avoid issues

    I was considering avios + cask on the way out and just avios on the way back.

    Please explain how this may be an issue.

    Thanks in advance.

    sloth 379 posts

    I’m doing this journey in a couple of weeks although minus the cruise…it’s fine to use your 241 for it. Just make sure you select the same Avios cash combo on both journeys to avoid issues

    I was considering avios + cask on the way out and just avios on the way back.

    Please explain how this may be an issue.

    Thanks in advance.

    Do a dummy booking now on the route and you’ll see 6 options on the Avios cash combo. If you don’t select the same level on both bookings then BA will unlikely refund you the extra you will initially pay when booking the return.

    See the link NL has provided that has a wealth of info on it. The procedure is not massively complicated but you need to fully understand it to avoid possible complications

    AFKAE 185 posts

    Just done it (sort of). Actually carried on from Singapore to SYD all on 2 for 1. We were flexible on dates, and managed to get our outbound 13/1 online. Added the inbound on the phone, it took 2 goes to achieve this, flexibility helped. Just did the USA phone line at 11.45.
    Recovering from BA15 (60 min stop in SIN) in Intercontinental with Harbour Bridge view.

    Mynki 29 posts

    Just done it (sort of). Actually carried on from Singapore to SYD all on 2 for 1. We were flexible on dates, and managed to get our outbound 13/1 online. Added the inbound on the phone, it took 2 goes to achieve this, flexibility helped. Just did the USA phone line at 11.45.
    Recovering from BA15 (60 min stop in SIN) in Intercontinental with Harbour Bridge view.

    I’m actually flying to SYD in April on a two for one. But this next booking is a bit more complex.

    I was told that Brits can no longer call the US number at midnight by BA staff.

    May I ask what number you called? Is it 1-800-452-1201?

    And was there any pushback at all?

    Thanks in advance.

    AFKAE 185 posts

    Just done it (sort of). Actually carried on from Singapore to SYD all on 2 for 1. We were flexible on dates, and managed to get our outbound 13/1 online. Added the inbound on the phone, it took 2 goes to achieve this, flexibility helped. Just did the USA phone line at 11.45.
    Recovering from BA15 (60 min stop in SIN) in Intercontinental with Harbour Bridge view.

    I’m actually flying to SYD in April on a two for one. But this next booking is a bit more complex.

    I was told that Brits can no longer call the US number at midnight by BA staff.

    May I ask what number you called? Is it 1-800-452-1201?

    And was there any pushback at all?

    Thanks in advance.

    Yes, that was it. No problem at all as it was one of the uk based people. Mind you it’s nearly a year ago now, haven’t tried recently but may need to do so again for a new trip soon.

    Jill Kinkell 218 posts

    We did this last year . Using 241 voucher , Booked outbound online at midnight inv-lhr-sin. I started a few days before the cruise So ended up having 4 nights in Sin which was no hardship. Lots to see and do. Phoned up at midnight to add on return HKG -LHR, then again the next day to add on the domestic. Again was happy to have a few days in HKG post cruise.
    Flexibility is the name of the game.

    Our cruise was really busy with a full ship ( a bit too busy for our liking) but still very enjoyable .
    Good luck

    Dave1895 6 posts

    OP may want to look at Finnair, which serves both destinations and when I booked it had much better availability than BA (between 4-8 business class seats per flight). You can’t use 2-4-1 voucher, but avois required is much lower anyway, and fees/charges are also much lower.

    On Finnair website reward seats are released earlier (think it was T-360), you can find what you want on Finnair website and then book by calling BA (even at T-360) and for some technical reason the fees/charges are cheaper than way than booking on Finnair website. Doing it this way also avoids having to transfer Avios to Finnair and means BA cancellation policy applies.

    You can also apparently save on charges/fees on the outward journey if you book the LON-HEL outbound segment separately (not an issue on inbound), but clearly that involves leaving a long gap on layover to avoid missing the transfer.

    There are pros and cons, so won’t be right for everyone, but may be worth a look at.

    sm 218 posts

    Good morning – jumping onto this thread! Just wondered if there was anyone who could share their experience whether the club world avios seats from cancelling their 2-4-1 LON-SIN return booking went back into inventory to rebook? The seats were booked at T-355 for departure end of June 2025 and sadly it looks like my daughter may not be able to travel with me but I would still be flying.

    I know this route is in high demand and I expect it is risky to cancel and expect a club world seat will still be there for me to book!

    Would be grateful to hear of anyone else in the situation/or advice. Thank you so much.

    JDB 6,205 posts

    @sm – there can be no certainty and while this far out the seats quite likely would return to inventory, it depends on a lot of unknowns. However, you can just ask BA to split the booking, keep your own booking intact and then just cancel your daughter’s seat. The agent ought then be able to reprice your itinerary and apply the voucher as 50% off if that’s what you want to do.

    ekposh 381 posts

    I was just about to reply and say exactly what JDB said. They should be able to do that and its a safer option than seats going back into inventory.

    sm 218 posts

    Ah great thanks so much both of you! That’s brilliant.🙏

    ParselT 3 posts

    We’re going to Sydney later this year and we have secured LON-SIN on a 2-4-1 on BA15, but will end up having to pay for the extension from SIN to SYD. What happens to the luggage as the journey will be on two different booking records? Can the luggage be checked through to Sydney?

    Traveller 935 4 posts

    We’re going to Sydney later this year and we have secured LON-SIN on a 2-4-1 on BA15, but will end up having to pay for the extension from SIN to SYD. What happens to the luggage as the journey will be on two different booking records? Can the luggage be checked through to Sydney?

    BA will not check luggage through for separate bookings – even if the 2nd one would be on BA as well.

    You will need to go through customs in SIN to collect luggage and check it back in for the second flight. If your BA15 is delayed there is also no protection and you’re on your own if you miss the other flight because of this. I’d suggest to plan some contingency by staying over in SIN for a night before heading on to Sydney the day after.

    Lynda 9 posts

    We have friends in Australia so we have used our 241 on the London, Singapore, Sydney route many times. We have never phoned up at midnight, just kept checking and every time flights have come up. We have only once done it all the way, even with club suite, it is so much better to have 2/3 of nights in Singapore to break the journey. We have even just done one night, it’s a quick taxi ride into the city, you get out for a great meal, sleep in a bed and get out and about the next morning. We have used the 241 to just get to Singapore and used various carriers for the next leg, one time we booked premium economy cash ticket on the second leg with BA and they upgraded us to business without telling us.

    qc 360 posts

    OP may want to look at Finnair, which serves both destinations and when I booked it had much better availability than BA (between 4-8 business class seats per flight). You can’t use 2-4-1 voucher, but avois required is much lower anyway, and fees/charges are also much lower.

    On Finnair website reward seats are released earlier (think it was T-360), you can find what you want on Finnair website and then book by calling BA (even at T-360) and for some technical reason the fees/charges are cheaper than way than booking on Finnair website. Doing it this way also avoids having to transfer Avios to Finnair and means BA cancellation policy applies.

    You can also apparently save on charges/fees on the outward journey if you book the LON-HEL outbound segment separately (not an issue on inbound), but clearly that involves leaving a long gap on layover to avoid missing the transfer.

    Are you saying that Finnair fly to both SIN and HKG or are you saying to book BA on the Finnair site – firstly Finnair don’t fly to either destination and secondly the OP is hoping to use a 2-4-1 voucher which can’t be used on Finnair.
    There are pros and cons, so won’t be right for everyone, but may be worth a look at.

    Dave1895 6 posts

    Yes I was suggesting looking at booking Finnair reward flight on BA.com (or more specifically by calling BA)… I thought Finnair did fly to both SIN and HK… at least I very much hope Finnair do fly to Singapore since I’m booked on one returning from SIN in August :-s

    While I have no personal experience of Finnair flying to HK, I’m pretty sure they do.

    Also yes totally appreciate you can’t use 2-4-1 voucher on Finnair (which I said in my post)… But I was just suggesting it might be worth looking at Finnair as an alternative because it might actually work out lower cost than using 2-4-1 with BA (as it did for me), because BA reward flights cost so many more Avios and have higher fees. But of course if the priority is to use a 2-4-1 voucher regardless of whether it costs more in Avios/cash than then yes Finnair won’t work… Personally I’d rather look at the lowest overall cost… But I understand the desire to use a voucher regardless of the actual benefit.

    I ended up using a 2-4-1 outbound, but couldn’t get the inbound via BA and was surprised when I worked out the Finnair return was actually slightly lower cost overall for the return than if I had managed to get the BA return with my 2-4-1… I won’t apply to all trips, but it did to mine. It really made me think about how much BA charges in Avios and fees compared to other one-world that essentially you need a 2-4-1 voucher to make it competitive!

    Anyone hopefully my suggestion was helpful to the OP, as I say it may work out better, it might not.., but worth at least a look at if going to SIN or HK.

    All the best

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