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    For what it’s worth, and not wanting to reignite a conversation that’s been had before, I experienced old CW for the first time, flying out of LGW on a redemption.

    As both were night flights, I have to say the middle 2 seats as a couple were great. Very wide and slept extremely well – better than many other superior J class products. Not sure I’d like an aisle though.

    On the other hand, I have to say the food on-board was very disappointing, both ways.

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    I like it when travelling as a couple as you can chat easily and I find I sleep better on the old CW seat. Even being in the aisle seat is not really a big issue. The biggest problem with it is lack of storage space – nowhere for tablet or glasses, the drawer at foot level is completely inaccessible when in bed mode. Still much nicer than even a WTP seat though, let alone economy.

    The Club Suite seat is far more private, especially with the door closed and much better personal storage and better IFE but it is rather a tight squeeze if like me you’re overweight and as a side sleeper I hit my knees on the top of the foot coffin. Also very difficult to have a conversation with your travel companion even in the middle pair.

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    The trouble with old Club is that while the aisle is bad as crew and passengers seem oblivious to the close presence of a seat or sleeping person but the middle is even worse so it’s a window for my wife and aisle for me.

    Re food, I don’t know if the food out of LGW is better or worse than LHR but the latter is awful. While we will have CS to Beijing next month, we will be taking a picnic. There is a minor benefit of the wine being so bad in that it’s easy to resist so we may arrive slightly more refreshed.

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    Always been a fan of old Club World when flying as a couple. Inflight catering on BA is good too – they usually just forget the soup while @JDB and @Rhys’ favourite airline not only forget the soup but 3 or 4 elements of breakfast too.

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    Always been a fan of old Club World when flying as a couple. Inflight catering on BA is good too – they usually just forget the soup while @JDB and @Rhys’ favourite airline not only forget the soup but 3 or 4 elements of breakfast too.

    I thought the food was very average, especially ex-MRU

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    @JDB why are the middle seats worse? I have a flight on old CW soon and currently have one aisle and one middle. There aren’t two middle seats though, I’m guessing this is just on the A380 lower deck?

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    There are two middle seats on the A380 lower deck as you say, and the three remaining B777’s with CW, only one on the be A380 upper deck and B787’s. Many consider them a good option for couples, but apart from the last row they do require climbing over someone in the aisle seat to get out. Equally the window seats are the same in that regard, so I wouldn’t consider the middle seats to be worse.

    You would want to avoid ‘sharing’ the middle pair with a stranger, which might be what JDB was referring to.

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    @sturgeon – if you are on a 787 which is what it sounds like, the person in the middle seat has to clamber but also is next to a stranger. Now maybe I’m just unlucky, but whenever I have had said stranger next to me, they are just the neighbour from hell. They might be grotesquely fat so everything moves when they do, sniff all flight, eat like pigs, stay up all night laughing loudly and inanely at whatever they are watching etc.

    I’m probably very fussy, but then if my wife were in one of those seats we wouldn’t be travelling at all. For the same reasons I can no longer travel in Euro Traveller; it’s going to be me in the middle seat and the third row mate will not be ideal; the small extra cost of Club to avoid this is a total bargain.

    While it doesn’t seem super friendly and I see how many people say how desperate they are to sit with their partners, we have been married nearly thirty years so my wife is quite happy not to see me much for 12 hours + (and I’m sure many HfP readers would sympathise with her) and read her book/watch her iPad, sleep etc. If you are newly/newishly together the considerations are different!

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    Always been a fan of old Club World when flying as a couple. Inflight catering on BA is good too – they usually just forget the soup while @JDB and @Rhys’ favourite airline not only forget the soup but 3 or 4 elements of breakfast too.

    I thought the food was very average, especially ex-MRU

    IMO the food on almost all airlines I have flown is very average. In over 40 years of flying aroond 30 airlines in J or F the only exceptions that spring to mind are: Japanese food on JAL, food on Lufty F, curries on Sri Lanka Airlines, reindeer on Finnair, and sometimes Thai food on Thai. The wirdt sinners have been United, USAirways, Etihad, and Qatar Airways. The rest all much the same/average.

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    @BJ – is QR never going to be forgiven for those missing breakfast items? I rarely have as many as four items for breakfast. Did your assigned crew member not bring the missing items once advised of the crisis and the long term reputational implications?

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    Always been a fan of old Club World when flying as a couple. Inflight catering on BA is good too – they usually just forget the soup while @JDB and @Rhys’ favourite airline not only forget the soup but 3 or 4 elements of breakfast too.

    I thought the food was very average, especially ex-MRU

    IMO the food on almost all airlines I have flown is very average. In over 40 years of flying aroond 30 airlines in J or F the only exceptions that spring to mind are: Japanese food on JAL, food on Lufty F, curries on Sri Lanka Airlines, reindeer on Finnair, and sometimes Thai food on Thai. The wirdt sinners have been United, USAirways, Etihad, and Qatar Airways. The rest all much the same/average.

    It doesn’t really matter in the end. But flew MAN-IAH and back in SQ, and the food was incredible.

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    @JDB, no, they’re not 🙂 The missing soup and missing brwakfast items were on consecutive flights from EDI and DOH. They were missing for everyone not only me so a probllem with the caterers tbh. This was just weeks after Rob riduculed BA for missing soup, claiming it wouldn’t happen on a ME airline. On the same flight as the missing breakfast the lavatories were very shabby indeed. To be fair though, all flights since have been subtabtially better. My partner just returned from BKK last week and reported both flights including meals were good.

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