Open jaw with 2 4 1 voucher & different airlines

[SteveR]

As the title says, Can I use my 2 4 1 Amex MAD – MIA with Iberia & MIA – LHR with BA in CW

Done a dummy booking MAD – MIA return taxes fees etc £270 with Iberia

If I can, how do I work out the taxes & fees.Did a dummy booking for the open jaw as a cash ticket but that came back with taxes & fees of £1000 +

Something not right

TIA

[JDB]

@SteveR – unfortunately you need to call BA to ascertain the TFCs for any Avios open jaw journey. Sometimes it’s roughly the sum of the two legs, but it can also be very different. It’s at least a reference point to see what is included in the calculation and the cost of the many individual charges on US trips. When you mix BA’s RFS charge with IB’s non-RFS you can often end up with a strange result such that you will need to ask the agent to send it off to the ticketing team to check. It looks as though it should be in the region of £400.

Checking the cash fare on the route doesn’t really tell you much as the carrier surcharge is used to flex the overall fare whereas the underlying fare is a published figure which doesn’t vary so much.

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SteveR wrote:

As the title says, Can I use my 2 4 1 Amex MAD – MIA with Iberia & MIA – LHR with BA in CW

Done a dummy booking MAD – MIA return taxes fees etc £270 with Iberia

If I can, how do I work out the taxes & fees.Did a dummy booking for the open jaw as a cash ticket but that came back with taxes & fees of £1000 +

Something not right

TIA

The £1,000 plus TFC’s is completely correct for a cash fare, however as @JDB has stated you’ll need to get BA to quote on this as since the introduction of the RFS even the calculations coming back from fares can be somewhat suspect, to the extent that the GGL team sent one quote back asking for a reconfirmation as even they didn’t believe the $$$$ quoted. If you can let us know what fares come back with (I’d be expecting around £450). You might want to see if you can fly both ways on BA or both ways on IB.

[1958]

Learn from my experience.
I booked BA for LHR to SCL, and wanted to return from EZE to Madrid on Iberia. The agent told me to wait for a fare quote – and when it came the next day, it seemed very high. I then did a dummy booking for EZE to MAD on a different date (on BA.com), and got a much lower price.
I then asked the agent to check with the fare team – and the revised “fee” was less than half the original quote.
Do your homework!

[SteveR]

So an update Mad – Miami return business 85,000 Avios & £252.50 per person on BA’s website

Phoning BA for Mad – Mia – LHR 102,000 Avios & £1000

Man – Madrid business return 15000 Avios + £80 – Not even bothered looking LCC’s from Manchester

[JDB]

@SteveR – as above from me and a couple of other posters, you need to get the agent to have the itinerary re-quoted by the fares/ticketing team unless the £1000 is for both of you. Some agents are a bit funny about doing this but when you point you that we know the IB leg TFCs are £252.50pp (which actually sounds quite high) and that the Miami RFS is £237.50pp, the £1000 can’t be right on a per person basis. It doesn’t quite work adding the two parts but it gives a very rough reference point.

The taxes quoted for the IB sector feel high but maybe they are higher to the US?? A couple of months ago we paid £255.20 for MAD-EZE-MAD-LHR all on IB, all business. If we had either returned directly from EZE to LHR or even if we had booked BA from MAD > LHR it would have increased the charges quite a bit. No idea why but it has been an issue ever since one could use 241s on Iberia.

[NorthernLass]

@SteveR, how are you getting 15k avios return MAN-MAD in business? I am seeing 16,500 avios one-way on IB. Did you check cash fares for MAN-MAD on the IB website? I’ve been finding them to be so low that it makes no sense to use avios.

[SteveR]

Just realised it grabbed by 2 4 1` voucher – Sorry if I got your hopes up

[NorthernLass]

Is that with BA adding the MAN-MAD leg on IB to a 241 booking to MIA via MAD? Doesn’t that defeat the object of saving on departure tax?

The point of departing from MAD is that you don’t pay over the odds in taxes and fees, this is negated if you add a UK departure to the booking. Sorry if I’m missing something?

[SteveR]

I was looking at Man Mad separately

[SteveR]

Will just do MAD – MIA return. Too much hassle trying to do the return leg into LHR.

I think the call centre are doing them as two single legs & adding the numbers together

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SteveR wrote:

Will just do MAD – MIA return. Too much hassle trying to do the return leg into LHR.

I think the call centre are doing them as two single legs & adding the numbers together

On IB – then you can add MAD-MAN into your booking if it’s available