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  • Mikeact 232 posts

    I just wanted to follow up this post of Jim’s on todays chat.
    ‘Just got off VS129 and now in Tampa. Flew premium on the A339 precisely because I’ve been disappointed with the f & b offerings in upper. Have to say, really impressed. Pre order for main, salad, main, lovely cherry pistachio dessert, cheese plate and a bread roll. Pork was very tender in a sage & thyme sauce. Ice cream, lots of G & T, wine from upper if I wanted it in the wonderwall, lots of snacks and to top it off a proper afternoon tea including sandwiches, cakes & a scone with jam and cream, which you can’t even get in upper anymore. Hard product good as ever. If BA Premium is better than this I’ll eat my hat. Doing premium out and upper back for the bed from now on!’

    Is this the general consensus? Should I cancel and drop down from Upper? Totally confused.

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,091 posts

    Depends if you value hard product or soft product. I often don’t eat on flights and prefer to just sleep. But i still always fly business or first – because i value the hard product above all else. Premium economy does not offer me a lie flat bed, a private space and (usually) avoidance of the airport scrum. Therefore the food served in premium economy is of no consequence to me.

    Aston100 1,388 posts

    Depends if you value hard product or soft product. I often don’t eat on flights and prefer to just sleep. But i still always fly business or first – because i value the hard product above all else. Premium economy does not offer me a lie flat bed, a private space and (usually) avoidance of the airport scrum. Therefore the food served in premium economy is of no consequence to me.

    What about a daytime flight?

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,091 posts

    Depends if you value hard product or soft product. I often don’t eat on flights and prefer to just sleep. But i still always fly business or first – because i value the hard product above all else. Premium economy does not offer me a lie flat bed, a private space and (usually) avoidance of the airport scrum. Therefore the food served in premium economy is of no consequence to me.

    What about a daytime flight?

    Same logic. I sleep anywhere and everywhere. At any point in a work week I could be on a 2am video call or such like. Sleep is something I take when I can get it. Same for a private space to work in, be it actual work or personal admin.

    HampshireHog 120 posts

    With Virgin on a day flight PE is perfectly fine in my view and indeed preferable when with a partner

    AL 577 posts

    WT+ is a pretty poor Premium product, in my view. It is effectively WT (which, itself, is nothing to write home about) with a little more legroom. VS Premium, however, is a world apart – the seat is entirely different, there’s more space and the F&B offering is usually better.

    I fly VS regularly. I fly Upper in one of four occasions: when I’ve got a travelling companion who’s never done it before and they want to try it; when I’m shattered, and want a bed; when I’m travelling to/from the West Coast; when I need the TPs (although, booked properly, this is doable in Premium, too).

    My usual route, therefore, is Premium on the daytimes and, unless Premium is a scrum, Premium on the evenings, too, unless one of the above.

    Give Premium a go – it’s a world apart from WT+.

    degsy 150 posts

    Agreed. VS Premium genuinely bridges the gap between E & UC, whereas BA’s PE really feels like E+.
    IMO

    CamFlyer 35 posts

    Agreed. VS Premium genuinely bridges the gap between E & UC, whereas BA’s PE really feels like E+.
    IMO

    I agree with the above. WT+ is better than WT, but that’s about the most I can say for it, particularly if as an alternative one can get an exit row in Y. VS PE is a true midpoint: definitely not UC, but also clearly distinguished from Y.

    The Savage Squirrel 567 posts

    I’m 100% with the 3 posts above here. In my experience at outstations where there aren’t enough desks for P/E to have its own checkin, Virgin typically directs P/E to the Business Class queue, not the economy. BA, the opposite. I think that’s actually quite an important distinction to the whole psychology each airline has to the product and all service decisions flow from that. BA sees it as economy with more room, Virgin sees it as a premium cabin.

    I often say here I’m perfectly happy with PE on a daytime East Coast flight as it provides everythinng I personally need to be comfortable. My P/E transatlantic flights are Virgin. The disagreement always comes from those referencing WT+…

    Jim Utd 18 posts

    I hope you dropped down @Mikeact!
    Worth the saving whether on points or cash.

    Wiseoldman 68 posts

    Agree with some of the posts earlier; Virgin UC product, during daytime flights, on some routes is not worth the difference especially the F&B offering. PE is good product (again sub-par F&B) but food is not important during a 6 hour flight. With good food in lounge/airport PE is just the right seat size and space.

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