Tier point value in Avios

[Mbaldrick]

Hi
I am curious, most likely been discussed before but i couldn’t find anything.

I am wondering if there is a way to currently put a value (avios value) on tier points.

My question is, what avios value would say 40 tier points be? Any ideas?

Many thanks
Michele

[phantomchickenz]

It’s not feasible. You can put a cash value on Avios because it is used as an alternative for cash. A tier point isn’t an alternative to Avios. One could possibly try and put their own cash value on a tier point if they are clear on what they are aiming for and what value they would get out of the status, but I’d suggest it can’t be done in a generic sense and have any real meaning.

[John]

Not sure if you are talking about the old or new system.

Assuming old, if you already have 560 TPs and 4 BA flights from travel you would have done anyway, and you have no further planned travel in the BA collection year, the value of 40 TPs would be the incremental value to you of Silver over Bronze, minus the cost to you of taking unnecessary flights to get 40 TPs.

Both of these factors already differ wildly depending on personal circumstances, the cabins you will choose to fly later, whether you care about extra checked luggage, whether you have alternative lounge access etc.

Now imagine someone with 600 TPs and 4 BA flights from travel they would have done anyway. 40 TPs are pretty much worthless to them.

[jonr405]

Old TP approx 2£/TP (based on previous mileage runs) so 200 avios assuming you value avios at 1p. Gold is then “worth” £3k and silver £1.2k

New TPs BA seems to think gold is “worth” 20-25k and silver £7.5-10k, so 7-9x the cost, which clearly illustrates why I’m done with BA loyalty

[Mbaldrick]

Hi

Thank you all for your comments. I knew it was a bit of an ask but i think I have the answer – i was given extra Avios in place of Tier Points for some reason. As i already have Silver until 2026 (520 needed for gold) I wasn’t sure if it was worth chasing the extra 40 tier points or keep the extra Avios. I had planned another visit to US it would mean an extra 520 TP’s) which would bring me to Gold. But as we don’t appear to know what is happening with regards to soft landing not sure it would be worth me pushing the US visit earlier than I really would like. I would prefer a bit later end of march/early April. But if i knew the soft landing was definitely going to happen then it may well be worth the trip and that extra 40 tier points could come in useful.

Trying to figure out whether to look to do status matches also, if so which one. All in all a lot to think about at the moment. Any help? LOL

Many thanks

[Ihar]

We only ever hit silver (well, in the old days) – so the “value” is seat selection, free baggage and lounge access. I can easily calculate that based on the flights my DW and I are likely to take in economy over the following year. So a £200 TP run is a no-brainer for a few TPs; £800 is probably on the edge (as we have DragonPass and often no luggage).

[Moondial99]

You don’t need to sorry about soft landing if you have hold earned already before April 1st.

Is earned so no soft landing needed.

If you want the gold status and benefits then do the trip before Apr 1st.

There is simple way to work out equivalent value of tier points in new system which is use the multiplier BA using which is 15.87

So 40*15.87 is 634 new equivalent spend (eligible spend obs in new system which maybe say 500 of the 634).

This is the calculator they using to convert your existing tier points into the new BA club tier point system for your lifetime points.

Now where it gets confusing is you only pay and see elgible spend at point of payment. So if you buy cheap ticket, which much less, than less eligible spend goes to ‘club points’ v a full flex ticket – which obviously much more expensive but more elgible spend.

Then obvs it’s just elgible spend each flight as I said.

Equivalent cash value of actual avios miles, 99% of sites like hfp tend to say gbp 1penny which actually works out 99% of time. Some good links on here on how to calculate value.

I use this basic method on calculating an avios spend. SO avios plus any cash I have to pay (or taxes) v the ticket price in cash only.

So example is 32000 avios ticket equals approx £320 benefit.

Simples..

[Jon]

Don’t know if this helps, and may not be relevant based on previous comments, but in the context of OneWorld status rather than, say, BA specifically (I assume the OP had the latter in mind?), Finnair Plus allows conversion of Avios to Tier Points (up to a limit, which varies according to status). I forget the exact exchange rate (possibly 3:1 unless
I’m misremembering) but it’s on their web site somewhere.