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  • rakesh 20 posts

    About to travel London to Bermuda return with 6 of us in First.

    – Wondering if there is anything the forum would like me to photograph .. review ?

    6 of us travelling together wife, sister and kids (14,12 and 4)
    Looks like the other two seats 1a and 1k are empty but blocked for status passengers.. guess we may get the whole cabin to ourselves.
    Have requested the food menus from youfirst..but they have not yet been emailed over

    5 of us recently did London – Bahamas (NAS) in club suite.. so will be able to compare club Vs first

    Did Bermuda – LGW one way in first in a 2019, but with a difficult toddler and not very friendly cabin crew..so don’t recall much.. except the food was not great.. they didn’t have baby /kids meal we requested.

    Rob and all on this forum have been so helpful.. so if I can help anybody that would be great

    NorthernLass 6,608 posts

    They haven’t reintroduced meal selection in F and J yet, though Rob has said it’s returning soon. In-laws are also off to BDA next week – if travelling after the departure moves to T3 (first week in June?) you’ll have access to the Cathay F lounge which is supposed to be fabulous.

    Have a great time – where are you staying?

    rakesh 20 posts

    We are staying at the Hamilton Princess.. my local friend insisted we stay there and not any of the others.

    Have a trip to Bahrain in First booked for Feb 24 half term that looks like going from T3

    Will be my first ever use of BA first wing at T5 and first visit to concorde room departure and arrivals..

    GillyDee 86 posts

    We are staying at the Hamilton Princess.. my local friend insisted we stay there and not any of the others.

    Have a trip to Bahrain in First booked for Feb 24 half term that looks like going from T3

    Will be my first ever use of BA first wing at T5 and first visit to concorde room departure and arrivals..

    Loved Bahrain, lunch on the patio at the fort was very pleasant. Where are you staying? The Four Seasons was a bit fur coat and no knickers, undeniably lovely outside space, very bling rooms, shockingly poor breakfast.

    JDB 4,130 posts

    They haven’t reintroduced meal selection in F and J yet, though Rob has said it’s returning soon. In-laws are also off to BDA next week – if travelling after the departure moves to T3 (first week in June?) you’ll have access to the Cathay F lounge which is supposed to be fabulous.

    Have a great time – where are you staying?

    What is the advantage of pre-ordering in F? I did look at that once, but it merely offered the same choices as on board and they don’t run out in F. Most of the food is fine (although my wife would beg to differ) and I would rather see what I feel like on the day and what wine they have.

    NorthernLass 6,608 posts

    OP was asking! But I personally do prefer to have an idea of what’s going to be served, e.g. so I don’t duplicate the meal beforehand. Also on our last F trip the choices were rather underwhelming so I took the opportunity to try a few different dishes in the CCR and didn’t eat much on the flight.


    @rakesh
    – if you hear anything about how far along the new Hilton property is, please let me know. I will ask in-laws to make enquiries as well but it won’t really be on their radar!

    rakesh 20 posts

    I was interested in the menu on board more for the kids, normally they prefer and eat the adult meals, but wanted to take a look in case I needed to request a child meal for any of them, particularly the 4 year old.

    Not yet booked anywhere in Bahrain..just secured the flights..always tough with 5 of us. Reminds me to look at options for next Easter. Where would you recommend we stay in Bahrain ?

    Yes will enquire about the Hilton, do you know which part of the island they are building it on
    Where are the in laws staying? We are supposed to come back on 30th but she thinks 5 nights might be too short .. so could extend.. kids back in school on 6th June.

    We are getting to T5 early, so I might get chance to have breakfast and lunch in the CCR.

    Quick question.. it is my sister’s birthday on day we plan to fly back…worth bothering to contact youfirst people . Do they ever spoil birthday people.. is that more for kids.. I recall getting a trip to the cockpit on a PanAm 747 for my birthday (got to sit on the captain’s knee.

    FatherOfFour 260 posts

    They haven’t reintroduced meal selection in F and J yet, though Rob has said it’s returning soon. In-laws are also off to BDA next week – if travelling after the departure moves to T3 (first week in June?) you’ll have access to the Cathay F lounge which is supposed to be fabulous.

    Have a great time – where are you staying?

    What is the advantage of pre-ordering in F? I did look at that once, but it merely offered the same choices as on board and they don’t run out in F. Most of the food is fine (although my wife would beg to differ) and I would rather see what I feel like on the day and what wine they have.

    You clearly haven’t seen the thread on FlyerTalk about only one salmon being loaded in F 🙂

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,011 posts

    “ Wondering if there is anything the forum would like me to photograph .. review ?”

    Careful how you go. See this cautionary tale: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/dear-mary-how-do-i-retrieve-the-naked-photo-that-was-hidden-in-a-cookbook/

    JDB 4,130 posts

    @FatherOfFour – correct, I don’t read FlyerTalk. However, I have travelled extensively in F on BA and many other airlines for 40+ and can safely say I have always been able to have my first choice and I prefer to sit at the back of F.

    It’s unfortunate that the quality of F and travel in general has declined but I can’t believe how much angst travel seems to cause for so many people here – will they be in quite the right lounge or seat, will they get just the food they want, will their children cope with the food etc. etc. Many of us travelled long before the internet, and just with some common sense and evolving parenting skills, we and the children not only survived, didn’t starve but actually thoroughly enjoyed our trips with little prior knowledge of what might be expected; much more exciting. All the excess information now available, much of it rather over effusive, seems to set people up for disappointment

    NorthernLass 6,608 posts

    @rakesh, in-laws are staying with family in Smith’s parish.

    https://www.bermudiana.com/blog/does-hilton-have-a-hotel-in-bermuda-it-does-now

    It’s currently slated to open in July 2024 but in typical island style has been delayed and delayed (similar to the one they’ve been building in GCM for about 5 years).

    jj 465 posts

    @rakesh, why don’t you just come back with a list of the best things about the flight that really made your day. Even better, bring your top 5 things separately from your kids’ top 5 things so we can see the difference. Don’t take it personally, but I have a hunch the kids will be more honest and insightful.

    I’ve been fortunate enough to travel F many times, and I still enjoy it. I dread the arrival of the day when I forget to count my enormous blessings and instead start to develop a sense of entitlement; luxury travel is an enormous privilege and never want to forget that. A report of your favourite things will be a welcome antidote to tales of woe from those who feel traumatised when they are handed a creased menu or whose slice of smoked salmon is too small.

    jj 465 posts

    Quick question.. it is my sister’s birthday on day we plan to fly back…worth bothering to contact youfirst people . Do they ever spoil birthday people.. is that more for kids.. I recall getting a trip to the cockpit on a PanAm 747 for my birthday (got to sit on the captain’s knee.

    I was once scheduled to fly in F on my wife’s birthday, so I called You First to see what they could do. I had hoped for a birthday cake or a bunch of flowers (I was willing to pay), but nothing could be arranged beyond a note on her records; I guess the logistics are just too hard to sort out. I never got to find out if the note on her records would have been picked up by the crew, as the flight was cancelled due to covid.

    NorthernLass 6,608 posts

    I flew F on my birthday to NYC a few years ago, there was a birthday card waiting for me in my seat but no bottle of champagne as I’ve seen one person mention previously. I probably made up for it with LPGS though!

    What you could do though is pre-order something from the Hi Life selection (perfume/truffles/gin etc) and these are delivered on board. Or bring something with you to discreetly pass to the crew and I’m sure they would do the honours.

    Dave likes planes 20 posts

    Flew First to BDA in 2021 – the two of us were the only ones in the cabin and so it felt like we were in our own private jet!
    Mentioned that we were celebrating our anniversary, and a few minutes later we were presented with a card signed by the crew and a bottle of champagne to take with us. It was certainly memorable! Enjoy your trip.

    meta 1,349 posts

    They haven’t reintroduced meal selection in F and J yet, though Rob has said it’s returning soon. In-laws are also off to BDA next week – if travelling after the departure moves to T3 (first week in June?) you’ll have access to the Cathay F lounge which is supposed to be fabulous.

    Have a great time – where are you staying?

    What is the advantage of pre-ordering in F? I did look at that once, but it merely offered the same choices as on board and they don’t run out in F. Most of the food is fine (although my wife would beg to differ) and I would rather see what I feel like on the day and what wine they have.

    You cleary haven’t travelled much in F. BA often does run out of food choices in F. I always pre-select, but was on two flights pre-covid where the passengers in rows 3,4 argued with cabin crew about them not having the all options available. BA does not order 3-4 choices for each passenger. Some people are also fussy about what they’d eat or what they’d eat on board.

    jj 465 posts

    If I go to a wedding, I don’t have a choice of food. If I go to a black-tie event, I rarely have a choice of food. If I go to a friend’s house for dinner, I don’t have a choice of food. If I share small plates with colleagues, I don’t generally have a choice of food. If I eat in my local Michelin starred restaurant, I don’t have a choice of food. If my wife is cooking dinner, I don’t have a choice of food unless she’s trying to soften me up for some reason.

    So, to be honest, I consider any choice of food to be a small bonus when sat in a metal tube isolated from shops, chefs and kitchens.

    I understand religious and medical restrictions, and airlines cater for those. Beyond that, if I don’t like the food that’s offered, I recognise that’s my failing and regard it as one of life’s learning experiences.

    FatherOfFour 260 posts

    If I go to a wedding, I don’t have a choice of food. If I go to a black-tie event, I rarely have a choice of food. If I go to a friend’s house for dinner, I don’t have a choice of food. If I share small plates with colleagues, I don’t generally have a choice of food. If I eat in my local Michelin starred restaurant, I don’t have a choice of food. If my wife is cooking dinner, I don’t have a choice of food unless she’s trying to soften me up for some reason.

    So, to be honest, I consider any choice of food to be a small bonus when sat in a metal tube isolated from shops, chefs and kitchens.

    I understand religious and medical restrictions, and airlines cater for those. Beyond that, if I don’t like the food that’s offered, I recognise that’s my failing and regard it as one of life’s learning experiences.

    It’s a very good point, but when you go to a friend’s house, black tie, wedding etc. EVERYONE is served the same. As soon as some element of choice comes in (as it does on planes) people soon become aggrieved if someone else has, what they would have preferred.

    I also take JDB’s point, before the Internet we all survived and adapted… but things have changed. We all have so much more information available to us as a result which for SOME (including myself) allows us to pre-plan all sorts of minor details of our trip. Appreciate this often ends in disappointment, but some of us get enjoyment out of the planning and anticipation!

    Finally, @rakesh, I hope you enjoy your trip. It sounds like it will be a special one and I like @jj’s idea if reporting back 5 highlights rather than the gripes.

    GillyDee 86 posts

    I was interested in the menu on board more for the kids, normally they prefer and eat the adult meals, but wanted to take a look in case I needed to request a child meal for any of them, particularly the 4 year old.

    Not yet booked anywhere in Bahrain..just secured the flights..always tough with 5 of us. Reminds me to look at options for next Easter. Where would you recommend we stay in Bahrain ?

    Yes will enquire about the Hilton, do you know which part of the island they are building it on
    Where are the in laws staying? We are supposed to come back on 30th but she thinks 5 nights might be too short .. so could extend.. kids back in school on 6th June.

    We are getting to T5 early, so I might get chance to have breakfast and lunch in the CCR.

    Quick question.. it is my sister’s birthday on day we plan to fly back…worth bothering to contact youfirst people . Do they ever spoil birthday people.. is that more for kids.. I recall getting a trip to the cockpit on a PanAm 747 for my birthday (got to sit on the captain’s knee.

    We planned to stay at 2 different hotels in Bahrain, either side of a short trip to Saudi. The first was the Sofitel Zallaq Thalassa, finishing with the FS. In the event the Sofitel advised that they were hosting a big Indian wedding over 2 of the 3 days we were there and that parts of the resort would be off limits. This is a very regular occurrence as far as I can tell. So we stayed at the Hilton instead which was very much out on a limb (but with a lot of construction around it planned), nice enough but not luxurious and convenient only for the Grand Mosque. I wouldn’t recommend.

    As for the FS I wish I’d saved my money and stayed at the HGI which is just across the bay. Breakfast couldn’t possibly have been as poor and it would have saved having to get the little ferry boat across to the mall which had some excellent food options. @Mandy stayed at the IHG; I don’t think she had any complaints.

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