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  • slidey 287 posts

    If using the 144 hour visa free transit in China, do you arrival and departure ticket have to be on the same booking, as in its only valid for an actual stopover on the same ticket?

    Or is it valid for any stay up to 144 hours as long as you have a ticket in and a ticket out, ie if I have a 1 way ticket to china and then a ticket from china to korea on a completely different booking (as well as a return ticket to uk from japan), does that also qualify for the 144 hour visa?

    It seems to use the term interline ticket which makes it sound like it has to be on the same ticket?

    Also, in terms of leaving and entering via the same port, does that mean that if you arrive via shanghai pudong, you must also leave via pudong airport only or can you leave via a different shanghai airport like shanghai hongqiao?

    PeteM 709 posts

    Haven’t had a problem using separate tickets before nor different airports in the same city.

    I should say last time I did this was about 5 years ago though, so double check.

    Big word of warning – if you have a Turkish (or possibly other “unfriendly”) stamp in your passport, visa on arrival doesn’t work and you’ll be sent back.

    JDB 4,385 posts

    The terms of the 144 hour visa are quite precise and different to the 72 hour one and I believe the longer one requires airline application, which the 72 hour one doesn’t. The Chinese authorities are exceptionally punctilious so you are best to check this with the Chinese Visa Centre rather than accepting some random advice. We have only ever entered China in full visas but know people who have run into difficulties by not properly understanding the difference between the various transit options and thus being refused boarding/entry.

    slidey 287 posts

    Do you know if its just Turkey or if there are other problematic stamps? I’m currently Turkey-free, but have lots of other stamps.

    If they did refuse to issue TWOV, would I be able to stay airside and book a flight out korea asap, or is it basically instant explusion back to where you came from?

    Does the airline do any visa/TWOV checks prior to boarding or is it all upon arrival ie no risk of denial of boarding?

    slidey 287 posts

    The terms of the 144 hour visa are quite precise and different to the 72 hour one and I believe the longer one requires airline application, which the 72 hour one doesn’t. The Chinese authorities are exceptionally punctilious so you are best to check this with the Chinese Visa Centre rather than accepting some random advice.

    I cant find anything about needing airline application for the 144h? The 72h one is only offered at 3 airports now, which doesnt include shanghai. I had a look at the Chinese site but counldnt really find much about TWOV.

    PeteM 709 posts

    One of the friends who flew with us wasn’t allowed in, with c15 others from a BA flight. Only thing they worked out they all had in common were Turkish stamps. They were all continuing elsewhere, so the BA rep convinced the authorities to let them sleep on the floor and fly out the next day. It was a major nightmare. This is pre-Covid.

    So if you’re not sure I’d just get a visa to be honest. This wasn’t written anywhere, BA wasn’t checking for it. But apparently it was happening regularly.

    JDB 4,385 posts

    The terms of the 144 hour visa are quite precise and different to the 72 hour one and I believe the longer one requires airline application, which the 72 hour one doesn’t. The Chinese authorities are exceptionally punctilious so you are best to check this with the Chinese Visa Centre rather than accepting some random advice.

    I cant find anything about needing airline application for the 144h? The 72h one is only offered at 3 airports now, which doesnt include shanghai. I had a look at the Chinese site but counldnt really find much about TWOV.

    The China Visa Service Centres (ie the official application offices) are the only people you want to rely upon. They can be quite helpful, but not always!

    https://www.visaforchina.cn/BER2_EN/generalinformation/news/283420.shtml

    That’s the German centre but they have various UK offices as well.

    slidey 287 posts

    “The respective carrier is responsible for the application for the visa-free transit. The respective carrier has to acquire the preliminary entry permit.”

    This looks like it could be the problematic bit. I currently have a points booking to Japan, but was thinking of changing it to China to visit both countries, but as its in like 3 days wouldn’t have time to get a proper visa, it sounds like the risk in this instance is too high! 🙂

    Thanks.

    PeteM 709 posts

    Stick to Japan, agree not worth the hassle!

    strickers 651 posts

    Have a look at the China forum on FT, there’s quite a detailed thread on it with some up to date info.

    https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china/708095-china-24-72-144-hour-transit-without-visa-twov-rules-master-thread.html

    Remember it’s transit without a visa, TWOV. I’ve done it once, pre-covid, I don’t remember any pre-authorisation but BA were meticulous in checking we had hotels booked and onward travel arrangements (ticketed) to a third country.

    Rob
    HfP Staff
    2,202 posts

    We did this pre covid into Beijing on a 72 hour visa. JAL flight into PEK, totally separate (was an open jaw 241) ticket from PEK to London.

    JAL never asked for anything. When we arrived in Beijing they did give the impression that they’d never heard of the scheme and we were sat waiting for around 45 minutes, possibly whilst someone rang the hotel to check we were booked in, or confirmed our onward flights exist. No issues in the end though.

    The real Swiss Tony 662 posts

    We have also had problems with this on two separate occasions. The first issue was TIMATIC being structured in such a way that it only gave the right answer if the agent said it was a transit in China not a stopover as I recall.

    The second issue was on arrival in China, knowledge of the scheme seemed very scant. However we were staying at the Hyatt in Beijing and had paid for a transfer which included a meet & greet (it was something like £70 for the 5 of us!). So we were met at the end of the jetbridge by airport staff. As we walked to immigration I explained what we were doing, so the lady took us to the right desk then explained all this to the agent in Chinese. We were stamped in relatively quickly.

    Bad form if they’re randomly deciding that a certain stamp black balls you, mind…

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