Why am I going to Las Vegas this weekend?

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• Matt says:

  18 Sep18 September 07:43

  Jet lag westwards is worse than east, really??
  I find completely the opposite, to USA is fine as it just a longer day, the return is much harder. I find flying to Tokyo particularly disorientating (I love Japan though). Am I the only one?

  Definitely agree on Virgin America, great planes.

  • Andy says:

    18 Sep18 September 07:59

    Totally agree. We go to LAS 3-4 times a year, probably in excess of 40 trips now. Get over the jet lag westbound in a couple of days but coming home it takes my wife about 2 weeks to recover..
    Have a great trip

  • Alan says:

    18 Sep18 September 08:00

    Agreed, generally Eastbound is felt to be worse for jetlag – not sure if that was just a typo?

    • N1AK says:

      18 Sep18 September 08:13

      I think it’s probably a pretty personal thing, even if there is a trend one way or the other. I had no issue flying west to the US this year, but flying back from Malaysia to the UK (also west) last year left me a broken man for days.

      • Rob says:

        18 Sep18 September 08:25

        Agreed. Also worth noting that jetlag to California is NOTHING like the minimal jetlag you get to New York.

    • Rob says:

      18 Sep18 September 08:26

      No, not a typo. California, for me, is worse than Tokyo. New York or Dubai, to be honest, I hardly even notice it anymore.

      • Peter says:

        18 Sep18 September 10:03

        Yeah. My wife had a migraine for 4days flying direct to lax and I was a bit ropey. The flight lax-jfk was no prob and later back home from jfk was no probs.
        I know the latter two flights were shorter but MUCH easier.

        • Adey says:

          18 Sep18 September 10:09

          My solution for LAX is to over-refresh in the clubhouse, continue at the bar onboard until lunch, eat and then sleep the remaining hours. By the time I’m through the airport I’m ready to start again.

          Coming back to the UK is far worse for me.

          Adey

      • JQ says:

        18 Sep18 September 10:10

        It seems to me that everyone is referring to different things. From the UK:

        – to NYC, it’s just a case of staying up late
        – to LAX you’ll have trouble staying up at night, but if you adjust then you’ll find it hard to wake up back home
        – to Asia, you won’t like breakfast meetings initially, but if you stay long enough then an all-nighter becomes hard once home.

        So it depends if your main difficulty is getting up in the middle of the night, or staying awake until dawn.

        For me NYC is painful, as the family there have a day that runs from 12pm to 3am, so just as bad as the west coast. Whereas since my UK waking hours are generally 5am to 10pm, I only need to shift forward 2-3 hours when in HKG and Taiwan!

        • JQ says:

          18 Sep18 September 10:11

          Of course, I don’t have young children unlike Raffles :p

      • Mike says:

        18 Sep18 September 13:09

        I get no jetlag at all going to/from SFO from LHR. Going out at ~14:30 and coming back at ~19:30 is pretty much perfect for sleep – if you sleep easy on a plane anyway. I imagine it’s much harder with kids or in coach though.

      • Alan says:

        18 Sep18 September 14:46

        Interesting. It depends on flight timing but most folk find Westbound quite easy as you just stay up a bit longer then go to bed promptly and have a good night’s sleep before being back into sync. By comparison when flying Eastbound one tends to land in the morning and have to try and make it through the day. I must say though that since doing a lot of night/on-call work I’m not as bothered by less sleep and hving a fully-flat bed makes a major difference 😀

        • squills says:

          19 Sep19 September 21:32

          Getting 4-5 hrs real sleep makes a huge difference, I think that’s the basic reason they all made the investment (ie to keep paying passengers)

• Alan says:

  18 Sep18 September 07:54

  Have a great trip – the Amex lounge in LAS is excellent 🙂

  • Geoff says:

    18 Sep18 September 10:58

    I look forward to the review, as I wouldn’t say “excellent”. I read before visiting that it was “better than most / all USA lounges but merely par by international standards”. Having visited, I would have to agree. Raffles as sampled MANY more than I have so I look forward to his thoughts.

    • AndyGWP says:

      18 Sep18 September 13:26

      I was there last week and tend to agree with Geoff – maybe its just got over-hyped and I was expecting something ‘more’ 🙂 it is certainly better than most US lounges though, but it was very busy when we were there, and the oversized chairs not making best use of space didn’t help. It’s certainly not as big as other US lounges.

      I enjoyed the beer and scran – though nothing special (though it did have names against it of people linked to Scarpetta / D.O.C.G etc) 🙂

      I (personally) didn’t think it was any better than the LAX OneWorld lounge, which had a similar amount of food choices, but had local beer on tap, and a self pour selection of wines etc – as well as a hot dog making stand, and a taco making stand! 🙂

      Hope you manage to find a seat Raffles! 🙂

    • Alan says:

      18 Sep18 September 14:49

      It clearly beats standard US lounges. I’d say it’s better than the vast majority of European outstation lounges too. Proper hot food and reasonable drink selection. Not amazing by any means (I’d put the Wing and similar more in that group). I was perhaps just particularly enthusiastic given how dreadful the previous LAS PriorityPass offerings were 😉

• Robert says:

  18 Sep18 September 08:15

  Have fun! where are you staying?

  By the way, why not fly back from LAX as well and try AA, or have you tried their new 77W product already?

  • Rob says:

    18 Sep18 September 08:24

    I need to get straight back as my wife is off to Spain for a business trip on Monday.

• Mr Bridge says:

  18 Sep18 September 08:40

  say hi to elvis

• Blackberryaddict says:

  18 Sep18 September 08:49

  Raffles, Are you flying out today or tomorrow? I’ll be at LHR tomorrow as well

  • Rob says:

    18 Sep18 September 09:04

    I am here now, awaiting the delayed 09.40!

    • Blackberryaddict says:

      18 Sep18 September 09:08

      Okay – safe travels then. I’ve got the Aviation Club lunch today, and then off to Routes in Chicago tomorrow.

• Nicola says:

  18 Sep18 September 08:53

  We are going the following weekend! We are using our 2 for 1 BA voucher for the flight but going via New York for a couple of nights. Then Virgin America premium (or whatever it is classed as) for the internal flight. We are using our ihg visa free night voucher plus points for 3 nights at the Venetian. So look forward to your reviews before we go. We have managed to get a club world flight using the 2 for 1 voucher so feel we have done well with our points spending this year!

• Arabmoney says:

  18 Sep18 September 09:13

  and here i thought you’d be watching the Mr Olympia body-building show

• Froggitt says:

  18 Sep18 September 09:21

  If you try out The Gun Store on Tropicana (great fun BTW), don’t blow the instructor’s head off.

  • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

    18 Sep18 September 09:37

    When I was there, I got the impression that they could take you down before you had a chance.

    Great fun though!

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