British Airways knows the way to San Jose …. with a new California route

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• Oh! Matron! says:

  27 Aug27 August 09:27

  This is not a strange choice at all. SFO continues to be popular for the valley, but immigration can be hideous there. SJC is a sensible choice. Not everyone that flys to SF stays there! And there’s more than just Apple and Google. Cisco are based not 8 miles from SJC. Not only that, the San Jose Sharks are a good hockey team 🙂

• RT says:

  27 Aug27 August 10:20

  Has anyone else noticed that avios flights availability are completely different when searching on BA vs Avios??? There seems to be a lot more availability when searching with BA than through the Avios site.

  Making my upgrade voucher almost pointless and unusable!

  • RT says:

    27 Aug27 August 10:38

    Wait… or does the search results correlate to how many points you have in your account?

    • Liz says:

      27 Aug27 August 15:01

      If you use the Avios map explorer you can move the Avios slider along to a higher amount of avios and that will show you more availability in different places. I am monitoring availability for flights to Houston next year as I want to use my Lloyds voucher in a couple of weeks time for next Sept.

  • mikeact says:

    27 Aug27 August 10:39

    It’s been that way since the beginning,and was picked up on here years ago.

  • Rob says:

    27 Aug27 August 10:52

    Are you BA Gold? If so, you would see far more economy seats via ba.com as you get access to more availability.

    If you are not Gold or looking at premium classes, it is just an IT error with avios.com running a bit behind. The call centre should be able to see any BA seat that ba.com shows unless ba.com is throwing up ‘phantom’ (mistake) availability.

    • RT says:

      27 Aug27 August 11:47

      Nope not BA Gold. This is odd. I think the Avios website only shows availability based on the number of Avios you have in your account… As so far I have checked a few other destinations and the only availability that’s really showing up for me are flights where I have enough Avios for.

  • cheekychappie says:

    27 Aug27 August 14:31

    Odd – as a year or so ago they seemed to merge identical availability more or less EXACTLY & INSTANTANEOUSLY.

    I tried to book 5 same route Avios RFS flights from both Avios & BA (ie 3 + 2) with everything lined up on different browsers. Both Avios & BA were available to buy 4 seats, I hit both buy buttons within a second of each other.

    One of them failed as availability had immediately evaporated (when I bought my first tickets).

• high end hobo says:

  27 Aug27 August 10:47

  booking with avios is live
  every flight has 4 seats in Y and 2 in J

  • Rob says:

    27 Aug27 August 10:49

    Told you 🙂

    • mark2 says:

      27 Aug27 August 11:25

      Does this vary with destination?
      Looking at Canada, they seem to start at 9 in each class, even F.

      • Lambs says:

        27 Aug27 August 13:01

        Where in Canada is that to? Is that through the ba or avois site? How many points do you need, does anyone know?

        • mark2 says:

          27 Aug27 August 13:16

          I was looking at Toronto but I have seen the same for Vancouver. Should be the same for both. Try on a few dates, 330 days in future for full choice.
          We are going to Toronto CW on 24/9 coming back from Montreal on 13/10

      • Rob says:

        27 Aug27 August 14:37

        I’ve seen 9 F on Middle East routes and New York at times as well (NYC in January was wide open in F at one point).

  • cheekychappie says:

    27 Aug27 August 14:33

    Yep, sounds like what I said.

    They do often offer more Avios seats later on, once the initial ones have been booked.

• Nick says:

  27 Aug27 August 13:31

  Completely off-topic, but I’m going away for the BH weekend. The primary reason for this was that it gives me the remaining 20 TP and 2 qualifying flights I need for Silver. However, the My Booking section on the BA website shows that I will only earn 15 points for this. I booked the flights well in advance of the 28 April devaluation. I don’t really understand how BA have managed this – I doubt they are awarding 7.5 TP per leg, so presumably I’m getting 10 TP for the outbound and 5 TP for the return. Very odd.

  • Scottnothing says:

    27 Aug27 August 14:48

    What’s the route you have booked (both ways)?

    • Nick says:

      28 Aug28 August 12:26

      Gatwick—>Edinburgh
      Edinburgh—>City

• Henry says:

  27 Aug27 August 13:56

  Can’t see any F availability on this route – is that normal when a new route is launched?

  • Paul says:

    27 Aug27 August 14:04

    Don’t forget that there are only 8 F seats on this route too (Very nice looking cabin!)

  • Rob says:

    27 Aug27 August 14:36

    It is norm when seats are automatically released. F will (or will not) appear as BA starts to learn how many it can sell.

    However, the 787-9 only have 8 F seats compared to 14 on the 777’s they are replacing on most routes. This will lead to a huge reduction in Avios availability in First on these routes.

    And, with 22 787-9’s and 10 787-10’s on order, they will be flying the vast majority of long haul routes within 3-4 years.

    • CV3V says:

      27 Aug27 August 15:34

      The 777-200 currently in use on the KUL route has only 12 seats in F, this is to allow enough space to access the crew rest area. So in K there are only 2 seats (1K and 2K), just for this reason I though 1K better than 1A.

• Liz says:

  27 Aug27 August 16:32

  OT – Can anyone help me with my calculations for pricing up a trip to Australia so I know how many I need to save. We are looking at EDI – LHR – Singapore on the A380 Airbus with a 4 day stop over – then Singapore – Melbourne with another 4/5 day stop over. We will need to organise an internal flight from Melbourne to Brisbane to visit family. I have Virgin miles saved so could use them.

  Returning I see there is a direct flight from Sydney to London on a BA 777 Jet so we would need to catch a connecting flight from Brisbane to Sydney although we would normally fly direct from Brisbane but that would have to be a partner flight and cost more Avios. We would have a 2-4-1 ticket by then so if my calculations are right it would cost us the following for the main flights:

  87500 – EDI-LHR- Singapore – Off Peak dates
  60000 – Singapore – Melbourne – Peak for non BA flight
  125000 – SYD – LHR – EDI Off Peak Dates

  Does the 2-4-1 ticket cover all the BA metal flights in a multi flight itinerary? Would that mean I would need to save 332500 for 2 tickets + £680 each for taxes approx for Club World.

  An alternative would be Hong Kong stopover.
  Have I worked my prices out correctly? Is there a better way?
  Thanks

  • Scott says:

    28 Aug28 August 11:33

    Hi Liz

    I’m pretty sure that you would be able to book EDI-LHR-SIN : SYD-LHR-EDI on one itinerary as an open jaw ticket and this would allow the use of the 2-4-1. The issue will be finding availability in Club on the SYD-LHR route, these are notoriously hard to find.

    I have been looking at options for getting to Australia using the Amex 2-4-1 and have concluded it is not easy. An option I was looking at was flying on BA metal to HKG using the 2-4-1 and then picking up a separate pair of avios tickets on Cathay. This opens up more flexible date options but is pretty pricey in avios terms vs. using the 2-4-1 rtn to SYD.

    In the end I have given up thinking about using avios to go to Australia given the cheap fares coming out of Oslo (and other non-uk cities). Being able to pick up a return business ticket for around£1700 each (I appreciate that these fares may not allow the stop-overs you have outlines) with more flexible date options that earn tier points & avios makes me question the value of the reward tickets. Couple this with the fact that I don’t have a huge amount of avios, means on this route isn’t worth it for me.

    As ever you have to make your own value judgements. If you need expend your own time, effort and expense to acquire the avios needed, it may be worth working out the true cost of that for tickets that may prove difficult to find.

    • Liz says:

      28 Aug28 August 19:36

      Thanks Scott for your comments. I will continue to look at different options. We should be able to save around 350000 avios by the time we plan our trip. I will keep an eye out for availability on the Sydney to London flight.

• yanky says:

  27 Aug27 August 17:45

  OT

  Just got myself an error fare PRG – LON – MIA – CUN return for £500 on ba first.

  Think its dead now I’m afraid, just got in at final moment.

  I have been ticketed.

  What do you think is the likelihood it will be honoured?

  • Rob says:

    27 Aug27 August 21:37

    Tiny bit higher than the other fare because this one touches the USA and consumer rules are tougher.

    If you had booked it on aa.com then it would probably be honoured. BA is different.

• Fraggle says:

  27 Aug27 August 21:52

  Slim to V-E-R-Y Slim Yanky!!

  As frequents know, there have been a few of these cropping up recently but looking at the route versus bargain basement (fat finger!) fare you snagged….it’s not even remotely close to full F fare so my guess is…sorry 🙁

  • cheekychappie says:

    28 Aug28 August 21:02

    I reckon if only a couple of people grabbed tickets, there’s a decent chance.

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