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News in brief:

Use Avios on Virgin America flights from April

Virgin America, the US domestic airline operating primarily on the West Coast, was bought by Alaska Airlines in 2016.

Integration, as always with airline mergers, has been slow.  However from 25th April 2018 all Virgin America routes will carry Alaska Airlines flight numbers instead of Virgin America ones.

This sounds like a trivial change, but it isn’t.

Alaska Airlines is an Avios redemption partner.  A lot of people don’t know this, because the flights are not bookable on ba.com – you have to call BA to book them.  This Head for Points article (click) explains all you need to know about booking Alaska Airlines flights.

From 25th April, flights on the old Virgin America routes are also bookable with Avios.

US domestic flights have a slightly different Avios pricing chart.  There is a minimum cost of 7,500 Avios points per one-way flight.  Everywhere else in the world, a flight of up to 650 miles will cost 4,500 Avios one-way.  Inside the US, it will cost 7,500 Avios.   For flights above 650 miles, standard Avios pricing applies.

Full details of the new expanded Alaska Airlines route network can be found on its website.

Is Amex launching a Marriott credit card?

A couple of years ago, the Marriott credit card – operated by Creation Financial Services – was closed to new applicants.

The reason is mysterious, but seems to involve Marriott discovering that it did not actually have the necessary licence from the Financial Conduct Authority to promote credit cards.  This is the same licence that I am obliged to have in order to write about them.

Things are moving on.  If you look at this page of the FCA website, Marriott International Inc received an FCA licence on 22nd August.

More interestingly, as Marriott International Inc is a US corporation, it appointed American Express Europe to act on its behalf – not Creation.

This does not necessarily mean that Amex will launch a Marriott branded card.  The merged Starwood Preferred Guest / Marriott Rewards programme is now expected to launch in January 2019.  My money is on that scheme being called Marriott Preferred Guest and the licence may be linked to that.

However …. many people are expecting Marriott to sever its links with American Express.  These were inherited with the acquisition of Starwood but, in the US, Marriott has worked exclusively with Visa for many years.

The UK is a different market, of course, but now that Amex co-brand cards incur the same 0.3% interchange fee as Visa or Mastercard products there is little incentive to launch one.  Why bother, when a Visa or Mastercard is more widely accepted and has the same interchange fees?

It is all very confusing …..

Hilton Park Lane

A Head for Points winner

Back in January I ran this article on two semi-secret cashback deals for Hilton and Avis that American Express was running via Facebook.

The cashback deals came with a twist.  Five people who triggered both the Hilton and the Avis cashback deal would win a weekend at the Hilton Park Lane in London.

Reader Alex dropped me an email yesterday, from his £1,000 per night Park Lane Suite at the hotel, saying that he had been one of the five winners.  Well done Alex.

Comments (111)

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  • Waribai says:

    Marriott related but slightly OT. I have booked a 7 night stay on points at Rtiz Carlton Tenerife over New Year. I didn’t have the points when booking so made a reservation with the proviso of obtaining an e-certificate at a later date.
    I am now thinking of going for a 7 night air hotel package instead. I should have enough points by late November. However by that time the bonus period for the 35% extra avios will be over.
    What is the chance that I can book a 7 night hote lair package at a Cat 1-5 Marriott now then come November phone up Marriott and ask to upgrade that to a Tier 1-3 Rtiz Carlton air hotel package for my Tenerife stay thus at the same time getting rid of my simple points reservation.

    I want to be certain before I do it as there is no longer any points availability for Tenerife!

    • BLT says:

      If I understand correctly you can request a cat 1-5 certificate now and attract the 35% bonus avios. Then you can uprage to a higher tier at any point with the additional Marriott points. This should then be applied against your existing reservation. But I would check on the helpful Mariiott forum at FT, for full confirmation.

    • Steve-B says:

      Should be OK. I had read reports that Cat 1-5 Travel Bookings can later be upgraded (for higher Cat use) using more Marriott points, so when I ordered my Travel package last week, I specifically asked the customer service agent and they confirmed this (I’m saving for a Cat 9 redemption).

      I think they will upgrade rather than releasing your 7 nights back to the inventory and re-booking, but worth giving them a call if you’re still unsure – I found them pretty helpful last week.

      The points posted to my BAEC quickly – ordered Thur PM, arrived Sat.

    • Jonny says:

      Yes you can do this – and when you upgrade to the T1-3 Ritz package just ask the agent to apply the certificate to your booking

      Given that you’re staying 7 days anyway, it makes perfect sense to get a travel package. Worth it even without the Avios bonus – though 162k Avios makes it an absolute steal.

  • 1dave says:

    O/T I have got all my bonus points on me SPG amex but how do I move them to my SPG account and then on to BAEC. I cant see anything on the amex account site about doing this so any comments would be a big help.

    • Genghis says:

      They sweep across automatically monthly to your SPG acct.

      • 1dave says:

        Thanks genghis
        Don’t remember being asked for spg account details. Do I enter them on the Amex site

        • Alan says:

          They ask for them when you apply for the account, there’s nowhere to enter them on the site. You could call to check if you want?

  • Robbie says:

    I recently qualified for a free night in Marriott up to level 5 – worth maybe £100, but not easy to find the right hotel…My second offer on Megabonus is 10k points for five stays before mid-Jan. Doesn’t seem overly generous when I got 30k for declining a timeshare purchase a few months ago. Clearly aimed at US road warriors… Certainly not as generous as IHG Accelerate offers – but then Marriott/Starwood are now market leaders…

    • mark2 says:

      I have not had the chance to decline a timeshare for a long time.
      Is it open to anyone please?

      • N says:

        Declining one for 30k sounds excellent. Where did you get the opportunity?

        • Alex W says:

          I saw one of those on offer at surfers paradise. Think it was 50k. Wish I’d gone for the presentation but Mrs W would have killed me!

        • Robbie says:

          Newport Coast CA

  • FlyingChris says:

    Quick O/T: If I downgrade my BAPP to the regular BA card, do I have to wait until the Avios sweep over at the end of the month, or because I’m keeping a card open in the same points family – they’ll still be there for the fee free card? Would rather save the pro-rata fee if possible as opposed to waiting until the end of Nov to downgrade.

    • Genghis says:

      Same account. It shouldn’t make a difference when you cancel.

    • Cuchulain says:

      Just be careful to not completely close your BAPP a/c with Avios still in it, pending them sweeping across to BAEC. Currently almost 10k Frozen Avios waititing Amex to force BA to allow them to transfer from a closed account…

      • mark2 says:

        I had that problem but only 526 Avios. Amex said that BA would not accept them so gave me 300 SPG instead. Avios arrived today so happy bunny.

  • rams1981 says:

    OT latest groupon avios posted to Iberia last week.

  • AD456 says:

    OT – Upgrading a Reward Flight

    If I book a reward flight now (for say June 18) in WT+, is there the possibility that I can then upgrade this booking later to CW if I have the available points?

    To give a few more details, I am planning a trip to Tokyo & Beijing. Tokyo availability seems quite limited, whereas Beijing is practically full for all dates. I don’t currently have the Avios to book a CW return, but I do have enough to book Tokyo CW and Beijing WT+. I know for certain that before I depart I will have enough additional Avios to put Beijing in CW too.

    Is it fine to book Tokyo CW (to secure the seat) and Beijing WT+ now, and then upgrade from WT+ once I have enough Avios? I assume this would be done through the call center? Does one even need to purchase the outbound/inbound at the same time?

    Using a 2-4-1 if that matters.

    Thanks.

    • Rob says:

      Yes, just call BA. It’s not a problem, as long as you’re happy to pay the £35 per person change fee. You can do just one leg.

      • AD456 says:

        Excellent thanks – its fine to even book it one leg at a time with a 2-4-1?

  • Tracy says:

    O/T I had a hilton stay on saturday night paid cash. I had a family issue and had to leave early. I checked in at 7pm, checked out 11.30pm. Should I still get points etc? Looks like only 500 points for app booking have posted…

    • Nick says:

      Why why why did you check out?! Just leave the key card on the bed, they’ll assume you left the morning after! You were probably recorded as having a ‘day stay’ which may not attract points…

      • Tracy says:

        I checked out as I needed a ticket to get the car out of the car park. Guess I could have said I just wanted to leave car park and not checked out but didnt think it would matter.

      • Rob says:

        Someone else did this recently. If you’re officially not in the hotel at midnight then it does NOT seem to count as a stay. Just leave the key on the bed, as Nick says, and walk out of the door. I have done this, what, four times this year? And probably 20 in my life. Never had a problem.

  • Optimus Prime says:

    OT – BA flight LHR-LAX in CW.

    https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Airbus_A380_new.php?flightno=283&date=

    How does the configuration 2-3-2 work on the upper deck? Does 51-D have to jump over E or F?

    Thanks.

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