Bits: Good business fares with KLM, 23kg suitcase on Flybe with Avios, new Miles & More deal with The Economist

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News in brief:

Good business class fares with KLM

KLM has currently got some good Business Class fare offers running.  The lead prices based on departure from Heathrow are:

Abu Dhabi from £1,269

Bangkok from £1,489

Bangakore from £ 1,459

Beijing from £1,869

Dubai from £1,229

Taipei from £1,549

There are also some good fares in Economy. All sale fares are here.  The flights must be booked by TOMORROW, Monday 26th February.

How to earn Flying Blue miles via UK credit cards

As a reminder, Air France and KLM do not have a UK Flying Blue credit card.  However, you can earn Flying Blue miles by converting Membership Rewards points earned from selected UK American Express cards.  These are:

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold – 10,000 Membership Rewards points sign-up bonus

The Platinum Card from American Express – 30,000 Membership Rewards points sign-up bonus

American Express Rewards credit card – up to 5,000 Membership Rewards points sign-up bonus

Membership Rewards points convert at 1:1 into Flying Blue miles.  The cards above all earn 1 Membership Rewards point per £1 spent on your card, which converts to 1 Flying Club mile.

KLM 747 business class

23kg suitcase on Flybe with Avios redemption via

In Lesson 15 of our Avios Redemption University series we discussed Avios redemptions on Flybe.

What’s interesting is that a standard cash ticket bought on Flybe does not include checked luggage whereas an Avios redemption via does.  (Flybe tickets booked via should also come with a free suitcase although you are told otherwise during the booking process – for safety book on

According to the website this can be a suitcase up to 20kg.  It turns out that this was changed to 23kg in May 2017 and, last week, the website was finally updated to reflect this.

Thanks to Graham for this information.

New Miles & More miles offer with The Economist

As Miles & More miles are harder to collect in the UK than Avios, it’s worth taking a look at the current promotion with The Economist.  It is, however, worse than their previous offers.

If you subscribe by 28th February you can earn up to 7,600 Miles & More miles depending on whether you want to read the magazine digitally, on paper or both.

There are three options:

Print Only or Digital Only for £145 each: 5,800 miles (was 8,700 miles last year)

Print and Digital for £179: 7,600 miles (was 11,400 miles last year)

You are technically paying 2.5p per mile when subscribing to either the print or the digital version.  If you choose the print and digital package you will pay 2.4p per mile – and in both cases you will obviously get the magazine on top.  This is too much money per mile if you are not at all interested in reading The Economist. If you were to buy a subscription anyway, this is an ok deal.  If you are self-employed you should also be able to write off the subscription as a business expense.

The page to subscribe is here.

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  1. OT, Do amex have to give a statement credit for a cancelled card?

    • Yes.

      • I didn’t receive a shop small credit to a card I cancelled card after using on the offer. I didn’t bother chasing as thought I wouldn’t get it.

        • I got online chat to give me the reference number of our conversation confirming we would get a credit on a cancelled card when they refused to manually credit 2 transactions on an SPG Card we wanted to cancel. Ended up phoning and got a really helpful person who credited 7 of our missing SS transactions. Cancelled the card a couple of days later and transferred the credit and prorate refund to a different card.

          Had to raise a complaint to Lloyds to get 2 further SS transactions credited. They were refusing point blank to deal with saying it was an AMEX problem. Ended up with the £10 credit plus an extra £15 to resolve the complaint. Also had to battle with MBNA Virgin Card to get a final £5. So much hassle to get these credits.

  2. o/t 2018 credit card planning

    I have some building work to pay for, which I can pay using debit card but not credit card. so I will use Curve linked to Lloyds Avios M/c towards the £7k 241 target.

    My wife and I have just about finished Amex gold and plat.
    so plan for my wife (plat) refer me to BAPP, she will then close Plat and start the 6 months (if still exists in 6 months!)

    1) am I right in saying the BAPP in my name still counts as an Amex, so my 6 months ‘no-amex ticker’ wont start until I close the BAPP too ?

    2) I can hold Amex SPG and Amex BAPP, as well as Amex Plat at the same time?

    thanks in advance!

    • 1) it’s 6 months not holding a card of that reward currency. Eg to get another Plat bonus you can’t have held a card earning MRs in the past 6 months. Getting a bonus on eg BAPP is only impacted by having an avios waning card in the past 6 months, not any other.
      2) no problem. My wife and I have held all 3 concurrently in the past.

      • Brilliant thanks. So actually my 6 months stay-away for gold/plat starts as soon as I cancel my plat, irrespective of the BAPP.

        SPG I guess has Star points as currency, so holds its own 6 month.

        • Indeed, and the nectar card is its own “currency”. It’s just the platinum, gold and green charge cards and the rewards credit cards that overlap

    • Upgrade, not 2 4 1!

  3. OT but maybe interesting, flew Vueling to Rome today from Gatwick and didn’t encounter any immigration control. We must have landed at an inter-schengen gate, could imagine it being quite an issue for someone without an EU passport…

  4. OT: Has anyone had success in getting tax and surcharged refunded on an unflown BA reward flight? I have a long haul flight I forgot to cancel so would be nice to at least see some tax refunded!

  5. OT: I’ve just realised that 97,500 IHG points have been taken from my Rewards Club account.
    Someone has hacked in (I believe) & ordered £125 worth of Argos vouchers.

    Yes I do have AwardWallet & yes I think I got a notification of the points balance dropping, but I’d happened at the same time to have been looking at a variety of possible redemptions and genuinely thought I’d booked something when I saw the notification.
    Today I went onto the IHG app & then website to see exactly what has gone on. Under account activity all it listed was the value of points going out, but didn’t say what for which raised my concern further.
    I’ve been in touch with IHG via Twitter as am at work & can’t make personal calls. They’ve frozen my old account, set up a new account & we’ve taken other steps to create a firebreak.
    I’m now waiting contact from their fraud department to find out what’s happened & most importantly to me if I’ll get the points back.

    So my lesson from this to pass on is to always check your actual account when you get an AwardWallet notification, just to triple check everything is as it should be.

    • My IHG rewards club account was hacked last week, was meant to post on here.

      I got an email saying my account details had been changed. The problem is they only ask for a 4 digit PIN as a password to log in – not secure at all.

      Luckily got the points re-instated, but had to call twice.

  6. OT: What what the last day to transfer Tesco points to Virgin for the 20% transfer bonus?

  7. Just downgraded from Plat to gold and almost spend 2k. The tracker is still showing I will earn the sign up bonus. This a mistake I presume? Thanks

    • Would be nice if did.

      Out of curiosity, why did you downgrade instead of just cancelling?

      • Well yes, technically I cancelled plat and then re applied for gold. Wanted a card to keep MR account open.

  8. For a Hilton stay last May (booked early March last year), I received the Avios beginning of January 2018…

  9. O/T

    Virgin Trains East Coast – if travelling with an under-5yr old child, I understand they go free (albeit without a seat reservation) however, do they get the free food onboard?


  10. HappyHarry says:

    On the BE luggage allowances:

    If you redeem on and your flight is BE or BA coded, then you get 23kg for free
    If you redeem on and your flight is BA coded, you get 23kg for free
    If you redeem on and your flight is BE coded, you get NO CHECKED ALLOWANCE

    This caught be out recently but ti be fair to BA it is very clearly stated on their website…

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