After making a fresh attempt to breath some life into Flight Pass last year, it looks like British Airways may be running it down.
Flight Pass is no longer available for sale for use beyond 31st December. All 12 month passes have been withdrawn – we need to see if 9 month passes are withdrawn on 1st April. OptionTown, which runs the scheme for BA, is not responding to queries.
If you don’t know about Flight Pass, via this OptionTown link, you can buy route passes for economy travel on flights from Heathrow, Gatwick and City.
There are a huge number of pricing permutations based on how many people would share your pass, how many tickets you want, what expiry date you are willing to accept and how close to the date of travel you want to book. You can buy a pass for one route or for an entire country.
For example, you can buy 12 one-way flights from Heathrow to Newcastle for £605, so £50 each. This includes taxes. You must use them within 3 months AND must book 90 days in advance. At the other extreme, 12 one-way tickets bookable up to 4 hours in advance will cost you £131 per seat.
Given the huge number of pricing options, it is impossible to say if this offers decent savings or not but I know many frequent air commuters use it. Note that you can only book return flights with Flight Pass which means that it is less flexible than you may think – you may be able to book your outbound with just four hours notice but you need to lock in the return at the same time (changeable for a fee).
You have last seat availability. If there are still seats for sale, irrespective of the price, you can book them – as long as you are inside the booking window of your Flight Pass. There are no blackout dates or minimum stays.
All of this is irrelevant, of course, if the product is now on its last legs.
EDIT: Comments below suggest that OptionTown has run the product down before, and then kicked it back to life, so it may not be the end …..
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O/T I upgraded to CW from PE using Avios at the weekend on a flight back from Abu Dhabi and have been credited CW TP instead of PE. I’m aware this is a mistake, would they take them away again?
Whilst this is good (plus the extra avios!), last week I’d upgraded using cash a trip to Sicily in May as I needed the extra TP to keep silver status and now with these bonus ones that wasn’t necessary. Cost £149 which now seems like a bit of a waste.
Something funny going on with this, happened to us too. We changed dates and both avios and TP shot up. I have no idea why but I’m not mentioning it and hoping for the best. If they come through it will sweeten the £370 change fee. For benefit of others be aware that if changing an UUA ticket you get hit with both the ticket change fee and the avios £35 change fee.
Fingers crossed for you! I’m just going to have to try and get my moneys worth in food and champagne on the flight I needlessly paid to upgrade!
We got lucky on this quite a few months ago, no clawback so far.
If it makes you feel better I spent a fair bit more than £150 on a mini tier point run to secure Gold and on that I got stuck at Heathrow overnight as missed a connection on the way home.
Figured out what’s going on with mine and will certainly not be getting the points unfortunately. Both the original and changed sector are currently on my booking. Once a new ticket has been issued I expect the original flight will disappear along with the associated avios.
We upgraded from CW to F using avios at Christmas – we got the 210 tier points + bonus avios for that element of the trip. They didn’t get pulled. Interestingly we have a flight to Abu in two weeks, upgraded from PE to CW (we’re CW coming back anyway) and the tier points are showing as 280 for the trip.
This happened to us last summer LGW-OAK in both directions. There was a separate award for the WTP and for the upgrade, so I assumed that that was how it was supposed to work. No problems since at all
Re Flight Pass:
The same was true of BA Flight Pass last year – all the passes sold after 31 December 2016 (into at least April 2017) were only available until 31 December 2017, and the 12 month passes became unavailable after 31 Dec 2016, and the 9 month passes became unavailable after 31 Mar 2017.
The terms and conditions of BA Flight Pass at any one time say all travel must be completed by 31 December 20xx, so I guess that maybe BA makes a fresh agreement with OptionTown to cover each calendar year? Hopefully this is just the same thing, and passes for 2019 will become available in due course.
Ideally BA Flight Pass would be a permanent scheme with fixed no end date, but even if not, I would prefer that there was the ability to purchase the a flight pass to cover the entire remaining period if this is less than year, at the rate for the shortest pass that is no longer available, e.g. if 8 months 14 days remained of the fixed period, you could then still buy a pass at the cost of a 9 month pass which is valid for 8 months 14 days, even though you would be losing 14 days’ of its use, rather than only being able to buy a 6 month pass or shorter.
The other change I would really like to see to the scheme would be the ability to book single fares in either direction rather than returns. Given the way BA prices shorthaul fares with a return no longer necessarily being that much cheaper, and singles generally half the cost of a return, this would make the Flight Pass product much more usable.
Thanks
I’d love for BA to relaunch a Visa/MasterCard with the same benefits as BAPP currently offers and the same price. Even if it had to reduce the earnings rate slightly, being able to get 1 Avios / £1 spent (a lower earnings rate than the Vueling card mentioned) then I’d be reasonably happy.
I do like Amex in some ways, but being able to use the card literally everywhere without even thinking (especially when considering the Amex Apple Pay issues) would be a joy!
I have the BA Amex for the points, but have found worldwide that many places do not accept Amex.
Their charges to the vendors are extortionately high (which is how they fund their generous customer benefits programmes).
Most main chains accept them, but independent businesses often don’t. This has been the case as for over a decade and hasn’t changed much since.
I don’t have a huge issue with Amex acceptance domestically. And more and more small businesses are on board, especially with the increasing prevalence of Square, iZettle etc. for small businesses which all take Amex as standard.
But still, I’d love to be able to use one card everywhere, and for that it has to be a Visa or Mastercard.
Am I missing something? Why is 1 Avios per Euro on a Visa a low earning rate?
I was thinking that. It’s a lot more generous than my Lloyds Avios Mastercard.
Because of the €49 fee.
Not an issue for a big spender but spend £1000 a month on a card with a £40ish fee and each Avios is subsidised by 0.33p of annual fee.
What about Amex Platinum then, its 1 point per £ is ridiculously stingy considering the £450 fee.
Most people who have it don’t spend on it, at least on here.
The Vueling card’s interesting enough for us to pay the €49 fee. For short haul economy hops to BCN and over to the Balearic’s would soon pay for itself. Granted we live near LGW.
OT Nectar: They might be targeted bug I thought worth flagging up for those with kids. 1500 points gets a voucher for £11+ off Pizza Express. 200 points gets a 3 month subscription to kids tv app hopster.
Not an error, I’ve had that PE deal in the app for a few weeks.
OT(dropped it in another bits, but missed this one… sorry!)
I want to travel LON-NYC on BA.
I have 40k amex points and 3k avios. I’ve not bought any points. My flights will be a shade over £1k for 2 people in economy. Can anybody suggest the cheapest way to book these flights?
Thanks
What dates and why specifically BA?
Thanks for the response!
28/04-06/05 (ish, can wiggle by a day or two)
Wanted BA as a friend can usually get us upgrades on BA (not BA/AA flights though) once we’re on the system, thought it would be a good treat especially if the return flight is overnight.
Don’t fly on BA. Book Aer Lingus from Dublin and get a separate ticket to Dublin. Tax will drop from roughly £300 per person to under £70. See https://www.headforpoints.com/2018/02/06/how-to-redeem-avios-points-on-aer-lingus/
You need to call BA to check Aer Lingus availability.
If it were me I would use the amex points for a hotel in NYC, much more lucrative than the savings made by an economy redemption, especially if no interest in going to Dublin
Solid advice, thanks – I’m still feeling my way round all the points fun. Happy to save the points for hotels. Any recommended to make the most of the points?
Thanks for both your comments, really appreciate the insight.It’s taken a while to get the hang of points/taxes/redemptions.
Had been keen on BA, given potential for an upgrade via a friend, however will look into aer lingus. Thanks!
Just looking , economy redemptions are only available 26/4 or 30/4 on the way out, bit good availability on return.
And for two it’s 52k avios and £742 tax.. so you’re not getting good value at all.
OT – Any recommendations for hotels in Singapore? I have status with Hilton, SPG and Marriot and Expedia credit via Nectar.
We really liked the IC near Bugis (used AMB cert). Others I know like the Conrad but we found it very average.
If money is not an issue, Capella on Sentosa. You can even rent a villa (normally long-term rented to expats) via a separate website if they have any spare. Great for kids as 30 seconds walk to the beach, albeit across a road.
I have a stay coming up at JW Marriott courtesy travel package.
Review seems to be good too.
I would love to spend a week in Singapore eating at loads of different food courts. Enjoy.
A friend of mine works for a regional airport in a small European country – and commercial support is often the only working tool to attract LCCs To Fly to these destination. Ryanair is still using it high and wide, btw. Then it’s just a question is whether paying the airlines is justified in terms of ROI – whether passengers bring more money into the country/region than it’s being spent on commercial support
OT Marriott resorts. Will my gold status get any recognition? I’m staying at Grande Lakes, Orlando
Not much as it is a resort. More points. That’s about it.
On the subject of resorts, is there any way of knowing whether a hotel might classify itself as a resort even if it does not have the word resort in the hotel name?
Interesting comment JamesB. I usually avoid Marriott hotels with the word ‘resort’ as there are no elite benefits but, if a hotel decided to call itself a resort then they could supposedly refuse your elite benefits. I suppose the only way to know is to drop them an email.
Don’t think so. Venice is called a resort but for the first year of operation was not one. Then, overnight, it decided it was and out went free breakfast and upgrades.
Another post promoting Vueling *sigh*