You can now swap points between Club Eurostar and Le Club AccorHotels – but should you?

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Le Club AccorHotels has announced a new partnership with Club Eurostar.

I was a little surprised to see this but I shouldn’t have been.  As the biggest hotel group in France and with a big UK presence, Accor was a natural fit.  Club Eurostar has also been keen to add new partnerships since the scheme was relaunched last year.

You can now move Accor points to Club Eurostar, and Club Eurostar points to Accor.

Full details are on the Accor website here.

But should you?

Le Club AccorHotels launches Club Eurostar partnership

Accor is the only airline or hotel group which is really pushing the concept of two-way transfer partnerships.  You have been able to transfer Finnair points to and from Accor for a while, and Qatar Airways was added last year.

In a roundabout way, it is a way of converting Finnair or Qatar Airways miles into Avios or many other airlines, using Le Club AccorHotels as an intermediary.  You lose a lot of value doing this though.

The snag with these deals is that they are not hugely generous.  Le Club AccorHotels is a revenue based loyalty scheme, with 1 Accor point worth 2 Eurocents off a hotel room.  There is no redemption chart – the number of points needed for a free night is based on the cash cost of the room you want.

Because it is revenue based, it is hard for the scheme to be too generous on transfers because it needs to make a profit both on transfers in and transfers out.

You can see what I mean by looking at the asymmetrical Accor rates to and from Club Eurostar:

500 Club Eurostar points gets you 1,500 Le Club AccorHotels points

4,000 Le Club AccorHotels points gets you 350 Club Eurostar points

Point transfers do NOT count towards status in either scheme.

Let’s try to put a cash value on this.  Club Eurostar points, which are earned at the rate of 1 point per £1 spent, are redeemed like this:

Standard – 1000 points return (1500 for ‘any train availability’) – typically £100

Standard Premier – 2000 points return (25000 for ‘any train availability’) – typically £200

Business Premier – 3000 points return for ‘any train availability’ – typically £450

On this basis, let’s assume a value of 10p per Club Eurostar point.  That said, as the comments below point out, if you’re planning a Friday to Sunday weekend break you will pay a lot more and – assuming you need to trigger ‘any train availability’ – you will get closer to 15p.

Le Club AccorHotels launches Club Eurostar partnership

Going back to our original trade:

500 Club Eurostar points (value £50) gets you 1,500 Le Club AccorHotels points (value €30)

4,000 Le Club AccorHotels points (value €80) gets you 350 Club Eurostar points (value £35)

This is clearly a bad trade however you do it.

Of course, life isn’t always that simple.  Perhaps you have a handful of Club Eurostar points you won’t use and will expire (although you can use them to part-pay a cash ticket), in which case 1,500 Accor points is better than nothing.  If you have 4,000 Accor points sitting around you can convert to 4,000 Avios in Iberia Plus or 2,000 – 4,000 other airline miles, although €80 off a hotel room seems better to me.

Conclusion

At the end of the day, it is always good to have more redemption options.  This one involves a noticeable loss of value in my book, but you may have a different view than me on what your Eurostar and Accor points are worth.

It is also worth noting that, when Qatar Airways devalued Qmiles without notice earlier this year, the option to cash out to Accor suddenly became excellent value.  Many people who were left with too few Qmiles for a redemption were suddenly happy to spend them via the Accor route.

You can find out more about this new partnership on the Le Club AccorHotels website here.

How to earn Club Eurostar points via UK credit cards

As a reminder, Club Eurostar does not have its own UK credit card.  However, you can earn Club Eurostar points by converting Membership Rewards points earned from selected UK American Express cards.  These are:

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold – 10,000 Membership Rewards points sign-up bonus

The Platinum Card from American Express – 30,000 Membership Rewards points sign-up bonus

American Express Rewards credit card – up to 5,000 Membership Rewards points sign-up bonus

Membership Rewards points convert at 15:1 into Club Eurostar points.  The cards above all earn 1 Membership Rewards point per £1 spent on your card, so you earn the equivalent of 1 Club Eurostar point for every £15 you spend.

American Express Platinum also comes with a great Eurostar benefit – lounge access!  You can enter any Eurostar lounge, irrespective of your ticket type, simply by showing The Platinum Card at the desk.  No guests are allowed but you can get entry for your partner by issuing them with a FREE supplementary Amex Platinum card on your account.

(Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from the major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Promos’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.)

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Comments

  1. I feel your valuation of Club Eurostar points is very much on the low side, probably off by x1.25/1.5 for typical weekend return fares.
    Coming across a £100 weekend return ticket in Standard is only realistic 3-4 months out. Less than a month and you’d be hard pressed to find anything under £200 (you may need a 1500 points anytime redemption for the same availability though)

    • Well as always, it’s only worth that if you would pay it. I wouldn’t pay £100 for a one-way trip on Eurostar. Anyway, €80 for 350 eurostar points will only be a good deal if you value them at 20p

  2. Nick Burch says:

    If you want to go to the south of France, rather than just Paris/Brussels/Lille, you can do a lot better with Club Eurostar! Ski train tickets are still available on points for almost all non-halfterm weekends, looking at about £150 for a one way cash ticket to Bourg, or 500 points. That’s 30p/point rather than your pessimistic 10p/point.

    For a last minute booking on Paris/Brussels, I’ve seen cash tickets hit £200 one way in standard. 750 points for an any train one way is 26p/point

    • Nobody wants to travel in Standard though… That’s my struggle with Club Eurostar – the extra cost of Standard Premier is usually only £10-£15 more than Standard each way for me, whereas the points cost is double. Always feels like I’m getting a bad deal, if I do anything other than a cash Standard Premier ticket.

      • Genghis says:

        As a discerning larger gentleman, I find standard relatively comfortable in a two with my wife. Lounge access already with Plat. The tepid food in SP and slightly larger seat with more space isn’t worth it if travelling with someone. By myself for work, however, SP / BP.

      • Really? SP is usually 1.5-2.5x the price of Standard whenever I’ve booked, which is why I’ve never travelled in SP. If it was £10 more I’d grab it too.

        • I suppose it depends what trains you’re looking at and how far out. Checking today for a Friday eve & Sunday eve return to Brussels a month out, SP is £5 on the outbound and £8 more on the inbound. Easy decision…

        • (£5 *more* before anyone gets excited about a mistake fare)

    • Totally agree, but that also applies to valuing Avios etc on last minute tickets. It is just that I rarely find myself needing a last minute ticket to Brussels …

    • My latest cash ticket on Eurostar was USD400 3 days out, travelling on the least busy times in Standard, Standard Premier was double

  3. O/T. Anyone else having a problem paying the Amex Platinum. With a curve card now ?

    Have Curve linked to my IHG Premium card.
    Payments to the SPG AMEX go through fine but not to the Plat. any more 🙁

    Amex just blocks the transaction according to Curve.

    • Mine only worked once and since then has been refused for Amex and Mastercard. I don’t think you’re really supposed to do it!

    • The Curve Card is not designed to be used like this (as we all know). Infact you are just transferring debt from one provider to another, to gain points of course. It’s more than a bit risky now after the updates from Curve as your payments to credit cards could now be passed to your linked Curve credit card as a cash advance instead of a purchase, attracting fees and possible impacts on your credit file. IMO it’s not worth the risk.

    • As a trial I have just successfully paid my Platinum bill with Curve/IHG Black. It was only £30.12 as that was the total owed, but is clearly not completely blocked.

      • It is pretty stupid to advertise it on a public forum with a known Curve lurker though don’t you all agree?

        • Shoestring says:

          Curve Founder & CEO Shachar Bialick reads HfP, seems to have benignly allowed some abuse of ATMs and payments to financial institutions but is now reining it in.

          Pretty obvious.

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