Bits: 0.84p Avios on Groupon, new £50 Hilton cashback deal from Amex, Park Plaza £139 London deal

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News in brief:

2,000 Avios for under £17 via Groupon Spain

The Groupon ‘cheap Avios’ promotion in Spain, with Iberia Plus, relaunched last week.  Click here for details.

The cheapest – and best value – 2,000 Avios package is now back in stock.  You are only paying €19 for 2,000 points, which is 0.84p each.

Here are the other prices, which are less of a steal – especially as BA is selling Avios directly with a 50% bonus this weekend:

  • 4,000 Iberia Plus Avios for €54 (1.2p)
  • 8,000 Iberia Plus Avios for €99 (1.1p)
  • 15,000 Iberia Plus Avios for €189 (1.1p)
  • 20,000 Iberia Plus Avios for €249 (1.1p)
  • 35,000 Iberia Plus Avios for €439 (1.1p)

Whilst these deals were administratively messy when they first appeared, I haven’t heard any reader complaints for a while.  The IT seems to be working now.  Of course, all of the information is in Spanish but Chrome can translate the page for you.

The Groupon Spain page you need is here.

Groupon Avios

New Hilton ‘£50 back on £250 spend’ cashback deal with American Express

A new Hilton cashback offer has appeared on a lot of American Express accounts.  To see if you are targetted, visit the Amex website and take a look under the ‘Offers’ tab on the online statement page for each of your cards.

You will receive £50 cashback when you spend £250 or more at selected UK and European Hilton, DoubleTree, Waldorf Astoria, Hampton, Curio and Conrad hotels before 31st December.  (Hilton Paris Opera is pictured below and reviewed here.  The Hilton Amsterdam Airport Schiphol which I reviewed earlier this week is also on.)

Not all hotels are participating.  Make sure that you check the list of hotels on the Amex website before booking – it is only UK and European hotels, and not all of them.  In theory you also need to book ‘pay at checkout’ rates to get this deal.  In reality, pre-paid rates will probably also trigger it.

In the past, these offers have been triggered by cumulative spend.  There is no mention of this – so you are not guaranteed to receive it if the £250 is not hit in one transaction – but I suspect you will.

Remember that you still have 11 days to benefit from Hilton’s excellent ‘2500 Miles & More miles on every stay’ promo (click) as well as the current global ‘double or triple points’ offer which runs until 3rd January.

Park Plaza Waterloo £139 deal

The Park Plaza hotel group has launched a special promotion for its new London Waterloo hotel.  We covered the opening here – it is very close to the Imperial War Museum, is basically opposite Lambeth North tube station and is a short walk from the South Bank / Waterloo.

Until Sunday night, you can book a Superior Room for £139 for Friday-Sunday nights and £159 midweek.  This includes breakfast.  Your stay can be at any point between 18th October and 31st January.

Park Plaza is part of Radisson Rewards so you will earn points in that scheme, which can be topped up by a transfer (at 1:3) of American Express Membership Rewards points.  American Express Platinum cardholders will have Radisson Rewards Gold status.

The Park Plaza home page is here.

EDIT:  Try this link if it is not pricing up via the normal site.

(Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from the major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Promos’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.)

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  1. Just received my wife’s new gold card and lounge club card and it says additional visits £20 am I right in think it used to be £15?!

    • Yes, it has gone up, not just for UK customers but others too.

      • Really not worth it then considering the coverage of lounges the card is accepted in I’ve found….£60 for three of us (usually get charged for our 5 year old) is pushing it now ????!

        • Platinum could really work for you if you travel often. Card for you and supp for your wife cover the lounge and insurance needs. Car hire insurance too if needed. Stay Hilton’s and you can throw in free breakfasts via gold status. Operate a churn strategy to recoup some of the fees as MR points. Card and supp also ‘doubles’ the amex offers available. Laying out £450 on a card fee seems a lot but it really can work, even before factoring in 5 or 10 18k referral bonuses.

        • Lady London says:

          @BJ this works better as a couple. One of you can always have a card active. So the benefits for you as a couple continue. Sadly doesn;t work as well for a single person. As the gap in having the card really is a gap then.

        • …they are a couple, witn a little one already 🙂

        • Agree, BJ – even with just holding the card solo I think it’s worth it if you make sure you clear the 90k MR referral a year.

  2. Arkadiusz says:

    I would recommend going to Spanish Groupon website via IberiaPlusStore for those with Iberia account. Each purchase is additionally awarded. For purchase of 2,000 Avios, I usually receive 114 Avios extra. Buying 8,000 Avios is rewarded with 324 additional Avios.

    • Thanks for the tip. Every little helps.

    • I bought one these 8000 packages when I was a bit short for a redemption.. imagine my delight when I logged into IB plus for the first time in a while to discover they had credited an extra 8000 that I definitely didn’t pay for!

    • how do you actually do that? As I can’t seem to find groupon via IberiaPlusStore?

      • Shoestring says:

        Always used to be there, check again

        • Frank De Jongh Swemer says:

          To see the IBPLUS STORE you have to be logged into the Spanish version of the IB Plus site. Just change the country to Spain after log in with English as the language.

      • On the IberiaPlus Store you need to set your region & language to Spain & Spanish, if you don’t Groupon won’t get displayed as one of their shopping partners.

  3. For 15th December, Park Plaza pricing up at £175. Member price via app is £176 but doesn’t include breakfast…not much of a saving really.

  4. If anyone can use 40,000 IB Avios before 1st December I can let them go for £280 (0.7p) Got them through the crazy IB Avios deal but not having much look finding flights so will probs use them on hotels if no one can make better use of them

    • Just out of interest, how would you transfer them to someone else’s account?

    • Delbert says:

      Not much luck finding flights? Have you tried BA?

      • Yeah but don’t want to risk them being reclaimed if I transferred them over

        • Shoestring says:

          I think Delbert meant strange you can’t find BA award flights via the IB portal – that’s how I’m using our 180K Avios. All on BA flights in Europe. But with IB redemption.

          Seems to be same award availability as if I were going direct thru BA.

        • Shoestring says:

          And you can use any OneWorld airline as well.

    • Lady London says:

      You know they have become transferable? not sure what will happen to your IB account if they are spent out of your BA account after transferring. But reports are they can now be pulled out.

      • Michael says:

        Do you mean that any Avios transferred to BAEC as part of the recent Iberia promotion would be pulled out of BAEC if not spent?
        Where are the reports of these being ‘pulled out’?

        • From the T&Cs: “Once Avios have been transferred to a Programme they are subject to the terms and conditions of that Programme as applicable at the date of transfer. In the event of any dispute as to the entitlement to the Avios points originally issued to a Member, the terms and conditions of the Programme under which Avios points were issued shall apply.” I´m not sure whether IbPlus are going to claim those Avios issued during the promo and transferred to BAEC, but if that´s the case… interesting times ahead!

        • Lady London says:

          Havent seen that wording in the t’s and c’s before. I wonder if it was introduced to cover just this IB messup errrrr … situation.

          Other posters may have a different view but it seems taxes and many times the amount of avios required to book an award ticket is much less on Iberia than on British Airways. However it seems to me there are a number of things you can do booking from British Airways (upgrades, partner airlines that BA has that IB cannot book seats on, etc) that you can;t do or cost more on IB.

          Others may know more about this than me though

    • Shoestring says:

      Fair price. If no takers, transfer them to BAEC then close your IB a/c.

      • Might have to just risk it and do just that. Suppose I can always open a new IB account at a later date if needed in future.

  5. Delbert says:

    Not sure if it’s already been covered but I note that the Marriott 29 Ways to Stay game is now giving 50 bonus points away each day on completion of the game.

    • Yes, several days already. A pain for 50 points but you never know when those 50 miggt put you over a line on a redemption so I just keep playing.

    • Lady London says:

      Thank you @Delbert your post has made me give the Marriott game a try today.

    • FYI, I got 50 points on the first day, just a free entry on subsequent days, but 500 points today.

  6. Bonglim says:

    I booked a flight via skyscanner, through edreams. It was a flight from Aberdeen to Houston, changing at Manchester and it was a very good price. 330 GBP return (in economy) – and the second flights between manchester and houston were on Singapore Airlines.
    They have emailed back saying that there was a pricing error on the website, meaning that I was charged incorrectly. As a result they are cancelling with immediate effect and refunding the money.

    Does anyone think I have a chance to successfully challenge this?

    • Delbert says:

      You’re on a hiding to nothing, Bonglim.

      You could try an email to customer services stating how much grief this has caused you and, if you’re lucky, they may take pity on you and give you a £20 credit voucher or something, but that’s about the best you can hope for.

    • I think it depends on the difference between the error fare and the actual fare. If it’s huge then the airline can reasonably claim that you should know that you’d never pay that price for your ticket. Didn’t BA cancel a load of flights to Tel Aviv recently due to similar circumstances?

      • Though it does seem a tad unfair to the customer – if you bought an incorrectly priced item in a shop it would be the shop’s bad luck as how would they get the item back off you?!

        • The pitch says:

          Some of the OTAs are notorious for this. They are just trying to make you pay extra.

        • In Bonglim’s favour is the fact that there have recently been fares to the USA from as little as £269 so they cannot argue fare was so low that he must have known it to be an error.

        • Difference being online they can say that any purchases is subject to acceptance and is an offer to purchase, I believe that’s how they get away with it.

          Once you are on the flight and it’s been paid for then it’s too late or once they send you the goods

        • Genghis says:

          @Mr Dee an “invitation to treat”.

        • Shoestring says:

          Yep, so in a shop, once you pay and the goods are in your possession, they’re yours. If you paid 1p for an iPad & put it in your bag, the shop could not in law take it away from you. But a till agent could see the silly price and refuse to take your 1p. So use self service tills.

          Same as online: the entity selling can at any point before delivery refund you and take the goods back. They could even take your 1p for the iPad, dispatch them then later instruct the courier to return the goods to base. Perfectly legal, you have no ownership rights until you take possession of the goods.

      • Yes

    • Graham WalshWalsh says:

      I had a similar issue when booking via Amex Travel. Got an email next day saying pricing error but so they would charge me full amount (£32 extra) and then refund my card with the difference.

    • Bonglim says:

      Thanks everyone for your reply.

      Worth having a go – so will try a complaint. Fingers crossed.

  7. Martin Wong says:

    If anyone wants to refer me for a Spain Groupon account & get 6 Euro credit, please let me know.

  8. Voltron says:

    OT – Previously had gold charge and got 3000 bonus points for adding supp. Cancelled that card months back and now Got gold CC, applied for a supp and got 3000 bonus points.

  9. As a HHilton Gold ,fo you get free breakfast at any hotel in their portfolio?
    Looking to stay at a Autograph Collection by Marriot in Baku for the next year Formula 1
    Grand Prix!Has anyone stayed there recently?Hilton seems to be all blocked and crazy expensive even with redemptions around those dates

  10. I have bought the groupon voucher today. Followed the instructions on the website, but received no notification that it’s worked. When can I expect the points to appear? Thanks, Dan

  11. I am having trouble finding my Groupon voucher with the voucher and security code. I have an email confirming my purchase but nothing else.

    • Peter K says:

      Go to groupon then the tab “my groupons”.

      • Yes, I have done that thanks but I still don’t know where to find the voucher and security code.

        • Lady London says:

          It should show the groupons you have purchased there.
          I’d give it another 24 hours then ping groupon to ask what’s going on.

        • Shoestring says:

          Have a look around Groupon, sounds like you (Helen) haven’t bothered to look properly. It’s not that difficult.

          Find ‘My Groupons’

  12. OT: Lloyds avios voucher.
    My avios account was closed yesterday and the points transferred to BAEC, where is the lloyds upgrade voucher now residing?

    • It should still be visible by the avios call centre staff who can redeem it for you over the phone – did you take a screenshot of it previously like we advised on here?!

  13. Thinking to buying some vouchers at to trigger the spend £150 get 5000 MR points
    Has anyone got any success doing it?

  14. OT: Any updates on Amex and Curve?

  15. Off topic:
    Do you know if you can upgrade using Avios to PE from economy having used Avios to part pay for your economy ticket ??

    Second part…..
    If there is no PE on a service, only economy then biz, how many Avios are needed to upgrade ? Is it the same as going from Econ to pe, pe to biz or something else ?

  16. Andrew MS says:

    I am feeling a bit jammy because My flight with Qatar from DOH to BKK has changed from a a340 to a380 and seat 30J is now overwing emergency exit row on upper deck .All the other seats on upper deck and emergency exit rows are blocked off . I am wondering if Qatar are likely to move me and allocate this seat to someone else . I am 6 ft 6 and need the legroom ! Cathay and Emirates wanted about £120 per sector for emergency exit row ,Qatar dont charge so i passed my business their way ! Do Qatar still offer airport upgrades for cash at reasonable cost, Y to J ?

  17. So I currently have an AMEX Gold Charge card. Just referred my partner for a BA Platinum.

    When she has that, can she refer me for the AMEX Gold credit card? I know I won’t get the points, but would she get the referral bonus?

  18. Olly Loosemore says:

    This is the first time my redemption hasn’t posted the points to my Iberia account with 48 hours. Feeling a little nervous about it

    • I wonder if it might be a more manual process this time – I was directed to a Google form to submit the details of the Groupon this time.

      • Olly Loosemore says:

        It’s been like that the last few times. Points arrived in my IB account today, 6 working days after submitting

    • I wouldn’t panic just yet, it does say within 10 working days.

      • Does anyone know if you are notified by Groupon once the avios hits Iberia? Or do you have to keep checking Iberia each day….?

        • it has now been 11 working days and no notification or credit to my Iberia account, anyone else facing this problem ?

        • Hi David – have you tried speaking to Groupon? They have a live chat service….I have now been waiting 7 biz days and i dont feel confident that before 10 days itll be credited. the issue is when i speak to groupon they say wait 10 days… but that seems to be delaying the inevitable…. be interested to see what they say to you now its been over 10 biz days….?

  19. Can I add the Groupon code directly into my BAEC account or is there an advantage to setting up an IB account too?

  20. Just a word of warning – this groupon deal is now proving very difficult – its been over 10 days now and avios still isnt credited. And very little help from Groupon… proving a lot more hassle than its worth for the saving

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