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• Steve says:

  27 Jul27 July 09:11

  This might be a silly question but..
  How does a pilot strike work for long haul pilots who are sat in another country? Do they refuse to fly the outward leg because they would be stuck otherwise? Could ba get the plane back to Uk and leave them in the country they chose to strike in?

  • Roberto says:

    27 Jul27 July 09:18

    Well a couple of things come to mind.(a) The pilots will only strike on days they deem as strike dates which could be down the line at any out-station anywhere and (b) Ba will need planes dotted around the world to pick up the slack once strikes are over.

    There is not enough room to park all the planes for a day at Heathrow so they would just stay where they are.

    Cant see it happening TBH.

    • Nick says:

      27 Jul27 July 10:19

      Strikes will affect ONLY those reporting for work during the dates given. Those already downroute would work the rest of their itinerary. This is exactly what the cabin crew have always done (it’s not that long ago… is your memory ok?!) and what the pilots would do too. There’s too much risk on both sides. Whether all the aircraft could park up in London is entirely another question.

  • John says:

    27 Jul27 July 10:22

    They operate the return flight then go on strike a day later than everyone else. If they did go on strike overseas then yes they would be liable to get themselves home and pay for hotels

    BA wouldn’t be able to get the plane back, since its pilots are on strike! (Those who aren’t striking should be flying passengers around,not empty planes.)

• Rob says:

  27 Jul27 July 09:31

  Correct. BA still has a duty to try to reroute you though.

• Mark says:

  27 Jul27 July 10:04

  O/T
  Do you get one complimentary card for free on Amex plat or is it £170 ? Also how does payment of the supp card bill work? Does it just go on my bill or do they have a separate login etc ? I know I’m liable for the bill but wasn’t sure if it’s on a separate statement.

  • fivebobbill says:

    27 Jul27 July 10:14

    First “Supplementary” card is free, subsequent cards you pay for.
    Supplementary cardholder can add their card to their own online account and view the transactions, but YOU are liable for all charges billed to the card.
    The supplementary transactions will show as spend in YOUR Platinum account, but with the supplementary cardholders initials indexed at “their” transactions.

  • Chrisasaurus says:

    27 Jul27 July 10:35

    Spend is on your statement but has a little head icon next to supp spend.

    If they register their supp card online they get a sub-statement – they see their spend and only their spend in ak account page that’s like any other, including offers etc.

    They cannot redeem MR points or (afaik) make payments

  • Rich says:

    27 Jul27 July 11:44

    I’m a supp on my brother’s Plat.

    I couldn’t add the card to my existing Amex login, so I had to create a separate profile for it. The card address on the supp (& Priority Pass) is his, and can’t be changed to mine, which is frustrating.

    As said above, the supp can’t make payments to the account, so I have to BACS money to him, and on the occasions I’ve phoned Amex, the security questions surprised me “The Primary Cardholder’s mother’s maiden name” etc. Clearly not a problem as it’s my brother, but might have floored me if it was a friend!

    • Shoestring says:

      27 Jul27 July 19:31

      Hardly surprising you can’t change the main cardholder address to your own as a supp.

      I guess only allowing the main cardholder to fund his/ her own account makes a lot of sense in terms of money laundering etc so you’ll have to stick with refunding your bro some other way.

      as to phoning Amex about your supp account – my wife’s supp accounts (me) have always had security questions personal to me (& vice versa when she is the supp) – so v surprised you say you were expected to answer security qs relevant to your bro

      • Shoestring says:

        27 Jul27 July 19:40

        tbh that’s never going to happen – Amex would never ask a supp security questions relating to the main cardholder – so you must be confused about something

        did you possibly know your bro’s card details etc and go into Chat or Phone contact under his ID?

        • Shoestring says:

          27 Jul27 July 19:57

          did you get your bro a Plat as (ostensibly) the main cardholder, only in reality he is the supp & you consider yourself the main cardholder since it is your card in reality?

          understandable given referrals etc & timelines

        • Lady London says:

          27 Jul27 July 20:36

          Shurely no one on here would ever do such a thing, Shoestring !
          🙂

        • Shoestring says:

          27 Jul27 July 20:41

          couldn’t trust my 2 bros with a card I was liable for, unfortunately

          could probably trust my 2 sisters – but they would be thinking I’m some kind of plinker

          so not really an option

          high hopes of my sons but my 18YO got turned down on income first application

        • Rich says:

          29 Jul29 July 15:33

          Nope. I’m definitely not confused! He’s the main cardholder, and they asked me his security info. I was very surprised.

          The address thing is odd too. When I was last a supplementary cardholder (on a friend’s account, several years ago) we each had separate account addresses and my card was delivered to my correct address.

          It makes me suspect that something’s not been set up correctly on my bro’s account, but everything else seems to be working so far

  • Rob says:

    27 Jul27 July 11:49

    £285 now for 2nd Plat supp, first is free

    • Lady London says:

      27 Jul27 July 12:07

      That’s about the rack rate cost of the Priority Pass that comes to the supp cardholder, that admits 2 to lounges in it’s own right. Hmmm.

      • Rob says:

        27 Jul27 July 12:46

        Yup, still a good deal given you get all the hotel statuses too.

        • BJ says:

          27 Jul27 July 13:12

          Plus the offers which could be worth hundreds if they are useful.

    • RWJ says:

      27 Jul27 July 18:20

      Is the fee for the additional supplementary card an annual fee? I assume it is but I’ve been wrong before

• Sundar says:

  27 Jul27 July 10:07

  Would the Strike likely affect other airlines flying out of LHR ?
  Also, For an airline like Air India flying from here to India, would EC261 be applicable If delayed/postponed/rerouted ?

  • John says:

    27 Jul27 July 10:27

    Heathrow staff are no longer going on strike. This is a BA strike.

    Yes, Regulation EC261/2004 applies to AI flights departing the EEA

    • v says:

      27 Jul27 July 10:40

      I thought Heathrow strikes were postponed? Are you saying that the Heathrow strike is now completely off?

      • Lady London says:

        27 Jul27 July 11:45

        Yes those other unions are considering a revised offer from the airport company and whilst doing so have suspended strike action.

    • Sundar says:

      27 Jul27 July 17:16

      Thanks John

• @mkcol says:

  27 Jul27 July 10:55

  When was the last BA pilots strike which actually went ahead?

  • Shoestring says:

    27 Jul27 July 11:04

    1979

    • @mkcol says:

      27 Jul27 July 12:16

      Thanks, was thinking it was almost a lifetime ago (for me 😉)

  • Lady London says:

    27 Jul27 July 11:47

    Can’t remember much about strike threats of pilots in between though so you can’t conclude they won’t in 2019/2020 either.

    • @mkcol says:

      27 Jul27 July 14:28

      Oh no, I’m not overly fussed about the current situation, I was simply trying to find out when they actually last went on strike as I have so many friends bemoaning that “they’re always striking”. I believe they’re simply getting confused between different groups striking & totally different airlines, and erroneously grouping them altogether as one lot!
      I have some very silly friends.

      • Lady London says:

        27 Jul27 July 15:18

        Cabin crew have had much more involvement with industrial action. That’s probably what makes people think the pilots striking is not as rare as it is.

        Basically relative to other employees the pilots are very fat cats. But I think BA has probably finally pushed them too far. Rob mentioned they took a pay cut to help BA after 9/11 that was promised to be paid back by BA when things improved. So an essential, hard to replace group of employees participated in bad times, but are claiming this has not been given back to the employees in good times. Someone with power has to strike otherwise employer abuse across the board will be untrammelled.

• Hugo says:

  27 Jul27 July 11:13

  I am doing it because the three friends are not too difficult to find and curve cash is better. There again the insurance is useful.

• berneslai says:

  27 Jul27 July 11:34

  Does anyone know roughly what the procedure is re: cancelled flight passengers moving to alternative services. Are cancelled passengers prioritised on seat type booked? Executive Club tier?

  And if I’m already on an “alternative” flight, am I likely to be downgraded (I’m in WTP) in favour of some incoming higher-tier passengers from a cancelled flight?

  • Lady London says:

    27 Jul27 July 13:47

    In theory higher class or higher tier passengers might find their rebooks etc. attended to first. And also informally, greater largesse on reclaim expenses. But volumes of displaced passengers will be so huge on this one, I wouldn’t bet in it.

    The really wrong thing in this situation is to stand in a 5 hour queue. All hotel rooms will be gone if you ever get to the front and good chance you just get told to try again tomorrow for the rest.

    In that case you have to make your own arrangements by phone, web, lounge dragon etc and claim back.

• Ed says:

  27 Jul27 July 11:50

  OT. Had a GIB flight in December cancelled by BA. I rang up and changed the date of the flights.

  Now in MMB one of the legs shows as being in W class (original booking was O class), do you think that I’ll get the higher avios and TPs?

  • Lady London says:

    27 Jul27 July 12:09

    Yes, make sure you BA number is on thé booking and keep stumm.

    • Ed says:

      27 Jul27 July 15:39

      Thanks both. A great result.

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