British Airways launches flights to Portland, Oregon – with lots of Avios availability

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• Cat says:

  19 Dec19 December 08:17

  I suspect I will now be spending most of today looking into the feasibility of hiking trips in the vicinity of Portland for someone who can’t drive! Far more interesting than marking mock papers!

  • Doug M says:

    19 Dec19 December 09:49

    Just try a few lessons and a test. People that can’t drive fit right in on the roads, especially in the USA 🙂

  • Nick Burch says:

    19 Dec19 December 10:08

    You can do some fun walks right from the city centre, up into the Rose Test Garden then onwards, public transport at both ends. A lot of the stuff along the Columbia River probably does need a car ideally, though a bicycle might not be impossible

    If you can find a car-driving buddy, then there’s some excellent stuff around Mount Hood, and further afield down towards Bend. You could try both sides of the Cascades, the hiking on the east side is really different but stuff good, and much drier!

  • Lady London says:

    19 Dec19 December 10:32

    Even if it’s a bit hard to park a car in South London and a driving nightmare surely driving is a skill needed just in case for emergencies? Think of all the places you could explore Cat.

    Portland has really excellent transport but you really need a car outside it. Helps in the far ‘burbs too and to reach malls if you do any shopping for kit etc. Powell’s bookshop is a bit like Foyle’s used to be.

  • Lady London says:

    19 Dec19 December 10:44

    PS it rains all the time so choose your month carefully.

• Mikeact says:

  19 Dec19 December 08:20

  Most definitely our favourite US destination….shame the word’s out !

  • Lady London says:

    19 Dec19 December 10:36

    That cow left the barn quite a few years ago now. Its not what it used to be but still a nice city. The weirdness is a bit fake now. It can’t compare to Europe. It used to feel a bit like a smaller but still hip version of SFO.

    • Lady London says:

      19 Dec19 December 10:42

      People are really really nice there. There are several major employers there, like Intel to the West, so healthy economy that supports quite a lot of Wholefood shops (my indicator of wealthy pretend healthiness). Read hotel reviews carefully.

      • Jamie B says:

        19 Dec19 December 14:37

        No sales tax in Oregon either which helps (but there is over the river in Washington)

    • Doug M says:

      19 Dec19 December 13:30

      Your description or Portland pretty much matches mine of Austin.

      • Lady London says:

        19 Dec19 December 13:38

        Do you think BA is trying to be ‘hip’ then? Austin also recently opened. Charleston too.

        • Doug M says:

          19 Dec19 December 14:04

          Certainly all destinations of a certain type. Craft beer, gourmet coffee, Wholefoods, lifestyle aspirational.

          I can think of a time I would have slapped myself for using phrases like that, but couldn’t think of a better way of describing them.

          Also I was thinking of Charlotte rather than Charleston, but didn’t want to interrupt my cliched grouping of them.

        • Rhys says:

          19 Dec19 December 14:55

          What about Pittsburgh 😉

        • Doug M says:

          19 Dec19 December 14:11

          Also, as you mentioned SF I thought I’d throw my horror of that place these days. Can there be a better example in the USA of the extreme divide in society there. The volume of homeless, and the stupid house prices in SF. An example where public transport expansion has some very nasty outcomes. Good rail services mean all those tech multi-millionaires from San Jose area can now live in SF and easily commute.
          For me a city that has totally lost it’s vibe, and is a completely fake version of it’s former self. No wish to return anytime soon.

        • Doug M says:

          19 Dec19 December 16:00

          I’ve not been to Pittsburg since ‘94, before you were born I’d guess. A nice city that was having the downtown urban regeneration thing taking place. I do remember the surrounding area was beautiful. I understand it’s a decent city with good quality of life. Other US cities I’d rate as nice places to visit would be Denver, Dallas and Salt Lake City. Oddly I really dislike New Orleans, Atlanta is another I have no love for.

        • Lady London says:

          19 Dec19 December 17:34

          @Doug M when I see and hear about some of those cities (and see the increase in homelessness also in Portland) I hear the Simon & Garfunkel song about “off to look for America” in my head. Such true lyrics.

        • Doug M says:

          19 Dec19 December 22:40

          I hear you on that. I have a very mixed relationship with the USA. I’ve lived and worked in NYC. I love the place, yet every time I visit it makes me happy, angry and sad in different amounts.

        • Lady London says:

          19 Dec19 December 23:42

          Exactly.

• Stu_N says:

  19 Dec19 December 09:03

  We visited in 2018 as part of a road trip in and out of Seattle. We were slightly disappointed with Portland itself, but the surrounding area is absolutely beautiful. We stayed in Dundee in Willamette Valley wine country for a couple of days then drove to Bend, Oregon for cycling and the total eclipse. Crater Lake but it was a bit of a disappointment as visibility was very poor due to wildfire smoke but what we saw was spectacular. I’d definitely go back to Oregon, just can’t justify it in 2020.

  PDX is also a gateway to Alaska and Hawaii; Alaskan (particularly post-Virgin America aquisition) and Delta both are very strong there so good competition and decent fares to the 49th and 50th states.

• Jeff says:

  19 Dec19 December 11:43

  We were there earlier this year and drove back to Portland from Yellowstone along the Columbia River Canyon, it is absolutely spectacular and would thoroughly recommend including this in any trip itinerary.

• Tom says:

  19 Dec19 December 14:01

  Doug,

  A couple of differences between Austin and Portland:

  1) Austin is insufferably hot in the summer

  2) Portland is much more walkable. You really need a car in Austin, or anywhere in Texas.

  • Doug M says:

    19 Dec19 December 14:29

    No dispute from me. I was thinking purely in terms of what I call vibe, which is hard to describe. But specifically to Austin and Portland, they’re both more commercial and less real than they used to be, and both very happy to play the weird and charming card.

• Deryck Hall says:

  19 Dec19 December 15:56

  Downtown Portland disappointed us when we were there in late October. Stray too far on the excellent tram system and you quickly end up in Down and Out Town (by the main railway station).

  Would recommend a trip to Silverton to see a charming town and visit the Oregon Garden Resort (botanical gardens and chalets).

  Also worth vising is Salem, the State Capital. It has lots of interesting architecture and a series of nice parks.

  But beware. There is a lot of nothingness in Oregon. You can drive for miles without seeing another car, and towns are set far apart. For example, Crater Lake – a great national park – is miles from anywhere of any size.

  • Rhys says:

    19 Dec19 December 16:13

    Driving for miles without seeing another car is common across the US, not just Oregon!

    • Doug M says:

      19 Dec19 December 19:58

      One of the things I really like about. Although sadly quite an exaggeration. The truth is you’ll never really drive more than about 15 minutes before you see another car. Even in states like Montana and Wyoming your fellow man is sadly never too far away. Maybe serious hikers can escape people, but driving aimlessly down smaller roads is never that isolated.

      • Rob says:

        19 Dec19 December 21:12

        I never drive for more than 30 seconds without seeing another car, so it remains a novely!

  • rob(staaaar) says:

    19 Dec19 December 18:08

    Cool, thx for the heads-up.

• Charles says:

  19 Dec19 December 17:37

  OT – Does anyone know if you can book 2 ANA business or first class seats using Virgin credit card 241 voucher (assuming I can find miles availability for LHR-TYO!). I have Virgin gold status but don’t know if the 241 will work on a partner airline. Thanks.

• DavidW says:

  19 Dec19 December 19:42

  Any idea whether the cash price will fall? Showing as a grand for return flights in August. Using max points only cuts it by 200 quid.

  • Rob says:

    19 Dec19 December 21:13

    Economy? Club World is only £1300ish in the sale. Are you not staying away for a Saturday night?

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