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Can you really fly Ryanair for £5 all-in? And would you want to? I try it out. (Part 2)

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This is part two of my Ryanair flight review.

Part one of my Ryanair review can be found here and covers my (successful) attempts to avoid paying a single extra penny for seat selection or cabin baggage on top of my £5 base fare.

How was my Ryanair flight?

Perfectly acceptable, of course.  I was flying a relatively new aircraft with decent legroom and I had an aisle seat with my luggage safely stowed away. It was about as good as it was going to get.

Here are a few points worth mentioning:

Due to the failure of the Stansted shuttle train, I was delayed getting to the boarding gate in the satellite.  Most passengers had been processed by then but had, as now also happens with BA on short-haul, been forced to queue unnecessarily.  The aircraft was nowhere near ready for boarding.  I was nearly the last one to be processed but was still standing around for 10 minutes.

Ryanair boarding process

Ryanair was not using a jetbridge even though our gate had one.  Luckily the weather was fine last Tuesday.  (I should also say that British Airways used a remote stand at Porto when I flew back, forcing us to take a bus unnecessarily.)

There is no magazine pocket and the safety instructions are printed on the back of the seat in front.  It looks tacky but removing the seat pocket does add a bit of legroom:

Ryanair safety instructions

As you can see below, even at 6′ 2′ my knees were not touching the seat in front:

Ryanair legroom

The Ryanair buy on board food offering is impressive.  If British Airways had anything like the range of products offered by Ryanair then I think passengers would be more accepting of it. 

    • They do fish and chips, and pizza and chips – not exactly healthy, but at least filling
    • There are vegetarian sourdough toasties, paninis and sandwiches
    • There are ham and cheese croissants and, in the morning, hot sausage and egg muffins, apricot croissants and chocolate croissants
    • The hot drinks list includes spiced chai latte
    • Coffee is from Lavazza
    • They have protein bars
    • They have hot ratatouille and vegan lasagne

I have no idea what the availability was like, since buying something would have broken my £5 rule, but it looked good.  Pricing was not offensive for someone used to Central London costs.

Ryanair inflight menu

They DO still try to sell you scratch cards and play the funny fanfare on landing but it was all fairly half-hearted.  It is worth noting that on late evening and early morning flights, none of this happens and announcements are restricted to the minimum.

Conclusion – is Ryanair worth it?

I fully accept that I was hoping to get a spicier article from this flight.  As it turns out:

“Man takes punctual flight, gets decent seat and is able to stow his hand baggage above his seat”

….. is not going to win me any journalism awards.

What I didn’t say earlier is that I was a semi-regular Ryanair flyer at one point.  They used to fly from Stansted to Luebeck in Germany, which is the nearest airport (well, airport is pushing it a bit, it is basically a big shed) to my parents-in-law.

It was annoying for all those people who thought they were flying to Hamburg, when they were nowhere near it, but for me and my wife it was great.  At that point we were living in East London so the trip to Stansted was also manageable, and certainly no worse than getting to Heathrow.

IF you can get a very cheap ticket AND you are willing to play the game, as I was, you can get an amazing deal.

Is Ryanair worth it?

That’s not the end of the story though ….

What I didn’t say above is that this is only true when you look at the cost of the flight in isolation.  In my experience, most people fail to take into account the entire cost of their trip when flying with low cost carriers.

Let’s take my return flight.  I had booked myself on the 11.05 Ryanair flight back from Porto on Thursday, for the same £5 one-way fare.

Two weeks before departure, I realised that British Airways had a 15.25 depature to Gatwick.  Even booking 14 days out, it was just €39 in Euro Traveller and €119 in Club Europe.  I could basically buy myself an extra 4 hr 20 mins sightseeing time for a very low cost and land at an airport far closer to where I live.

It was a no-brainer.  I dumped my Ryanair return flight and booked British Airways Club Europe.  €119 one-way (£102) got me seat 1A with 1C remaining empty, over 2000 Avios, some On Business points and a decent BA afternoon tea with two mini-bottles of champagne.  It also got me lounge access in Porto, although I would have had this with Ryanair via my Priority Pass anyway.

The key factor, though, was the extra four hours in Porto, helped by the fact I have InterContinental Ambassador status and could get a guaranteed late check-out.

The cost of travel is not just the cost of your flight.  It also includes costs such as getting to the airport (Stansted Express is £20 vs £6 on the tube to Heathrow) and whether you’d spend money in the airport vs having lounge access if you flew British Airways instead.

It is, more importantly, about whether the timings let you maximise your holiday and – often overlooked – whether you are travelling with a carrier who has the willingness and capacity to help you if things go wrong.  If I was going to be caught up in disruption in New York, for example, BA/AA and Virgin/Delta will be able to help me more quickly than Norwegian due to the sheer weight of seats and rerouting options they offer.

To get back to Ryanair, they delivered everything they promised – and more – for my £5.  It lost at least £20 on flying me to Porto just on Air Passenger Duty and Stansted fees, but Michael O’Leary can afford £20 more than me.

Comments (72)

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  • IndiaCharlie says:

    I play the ryanair game semi regularly for shorter flights when there is a significant price difference AND the timings work in my favour. With Balearic residents discount I’ve had a trip from PMI-BCN price in at 2€. I have however “lost” twice – once when accidentally booking two tickets in my name instead of one in my OH name (damn you auto fill) – spotted morning of flight and choice of 130£ change fee or £90 new booking. 2nd time I inexplicably forgot to check in, realising 2 mins too late and had to fork out 55e for airport check in.

    Otherwise I find you get exactly what you pay for. A-B with zero frills and annoying scratchcard announcements but saving on occasions over £100 to next cheapest flight and very occasionally better flight times plus an excellent safety record and new planes. I don’t care where I sit (check in just over 2 hr before and tend to get better seats), have lounge access through PP and pldpnt mind paying the same for a coffee/beer as I would on the high street. I’m always confused by those who pay next to nothing but expect a QR experience.

  • Sandgrounder says:

    I fly MAN-RIX quite regularly to visit the in-laws. I used to refuse to use them without booking 1A. Since the seat recline was removed I tend to just take the random seat. Economy is economy, the seat is fine, it’s just the extra queueing that really annoys me. I occasionally use Wizz from DSA if the dates require it, not much difference really, but the two page code of conduct issued to you in the lounge is a little scary.

    • Lumma says:

      Problem with row 1 on Ryanair is that you often end up having to put your bags a fair few rows back and have to wait for everyone to deplane to retrieve them

  • Richard says:

    I don’t see what the fuss is about. FR these days are a perfectly fine airline and really do have a better on-board menu. You have to get used to their quirks, ie. paying extra for everything, but once you do it’s fine. Advanced seat allocation has helped a lot by removing the scrum on board the plane. In many ways, BA’s seat pitch and on-board experience has moved down to meet FR’s, necessarily so given fare competition from them and Easyjet. The only problem I see is brand confusion: everyone expects something really terrible, but in fact it’s comparable to most other short-haul carriers in Europe and, in some respects, is better! So actually Mr O’Leary could probably charge a bit more than £5 to Porto!

    • Shoestring says:

      they know how to play the pricing/ load factor game pretty well, eg on our route Bristol—>place in the sun, you *never* see a £5 ticket, generally lowest would be >£25 but on very rare Sale occasions about £15 – though that would always be a midweek off peak timing

      for peak, ie school hols, you’re looking at getting lucky with a Sale and paying £60-80 EW minimum, (often a fair bit more), which with Priority to get the 2 cabin bags, means £70-90 ie c.same as BA RFS but without a checked bag

      they can do this because they have a monopoly on the route and don’t even fly every day

      I’m using Ryanair to fly back to Bristol at the end of the summer hols (ie wife can pick me up but didn’t fancy driving to LHR) – and watched the prices pretty carefully for a few weeks, eventually getting the lowest going which was north of £100 (and lucky to get it that low!)

  • Polly says:

    Now looking for Warsaw and Sicily deals. Am sure we will find them, as flexible when we fly.
    Always use FR from STN for Bergerac, flights often as chap as 18 but always need to add priority for a wheelie, as it’s for 10 day trip. Security not been too bad last few times. Plus, usually get into the Escape lounge. Food does us fine.
    Know we will have an enjoyable meal locally evening we land.
    Play by o Leary’s rules and it’s just fine. He’s very entertaining really in interviews…

  • Alice says:

    Now do the same from Berlin, where they fly from SXF. Ideally on a day where there’s almost no trains running to the airport.

    I will say though, they did ignore the cabin bag restrictions at the gate.

  • Matt says:

    I hope you claimed the tax back for your ‘missed’ return flight!

    • kk says:

      They impose a fairly high admin charge to do that, so in most cases you get nothing back, especially when flying back to the UK (since taxes and airport fees tend to be lower than ex-UK).
      It should be noted BA (and most other airlines) do the same – an admin fee from €10 to €30.

      It would be worthwhile for Rob to write an article about these fees, and list carriers on whom buying a cheap ticket (£1 fare + £60 or more in taxes) could be a good “option” (i.e. not fly, forfeit the fare, but still get half the money back, or more). Alitalia used to be like that, especially during their 20% off sales, where they discounted the whole ticket, not just the fare part yet they would refund 100% of the taxes (so you’d pay £100 for a return ticket but the taxes would be around £70).

  • filipino_chino says:

    When i was single, i used to book flights like this… now i have a wife and child, I now always pay for set reservations, as they put my daughter next to me, but my wife about 20 rows ahead…

    If you can get Ryanair for a cheap quick trip, it’s good, but i feel sorry for the people who pay £300 for the same seat!

  • Richard M says:

    Flying on them to Beirut via Paphos for £70 return later this month, something I would not otherwise be able to do. BA or MEA would be £250 minimum. Love them or hate them, otherwise you’d have to invent them.

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