Accor Live Limitless has a little known partnership with Club Eurostar.
As there are very few ways of earning Club Eurostar points apart from using their services, I thought it was worth a closer look. You can convert American Express Membership Rewards points to Club Eurostar at the rate of 15:1 but this is pretty much it in terms of partner earning options.
How do you earn Club Eurostar points with Accor Live Limitless?
As the biggest hotel group in France and with a big UK presence, Accor was a natural fit for Club Eurostar’s first major travel partnership.
You can move Accor Live Limitless points to Club Eurostar, and Club Eurostar points to Accor Live Limitless.
Full details are on the Accor website here.
But should you do it?
Accor is the only airline or hotel group which is really pushing the concept of two-way transfer partnerships. You have been able to transfer Finnair points to and from Accor for years, and Qatar Airways was added more recently.
In a roundabout way, this is a way of converting Finnair or Qatar Airways miles into Avios or many other airlines, using Accor Live Limitless as an intermediary. You lose a LOT of value doing this though – it would make more sense to move the points into Accor and spend them on a hotel.
The snag with these transfer deals is that they are never generous. Accor Live Limitless is a revenue based loyalty scheme, with 1 Accor point worth 2 Eurocents off a hotel room. There is no redemption chart – the number of points needed for a free night is based on the cash cost of the room you want.
Because it is revenue based, it is hard for the scheme to be too generous on transfers because it needs to make a profit both on transfers in and transfers out.
What are the transfer rates between Accor Live Limitless and Club Eurostar?
You can see what I mean by looking at the asymmetrical Accor rates to and from Club Eurostar:
500 Club Eurostar points gets you 1,500 Accor Live Limitless points
4,000 Accor Live Limitless points gets you 350 Club Eurostar points
Point transfers do NOT count towards status in either scheme.
Let’s try to put a cash value on this. I decided in this article that Club Eurostar points are worth 10p – 12p. Let’s stick with 10p to be safe, although on a short-notice trip you can do a lot better.
Going back to our original trade:
500 Eurostar points (value £50) gets you 1,500 Accor points (value €30)
4,000 Accor points (value €80) gets you 350 Eurostar points (value £35)
This is clearly a bad trade whichever way you do it.
Of course, life isn’t always that simple.
Perhaps you have a handful of Club Eurostar points you won’t use and will expire? In this case, 1,500 Accor points is better than nothing. You can always stop Club Eurostar points expiring by transfering a small number of American Express Membership Rewards points though.
If you have 4,000 Accor Live Limitless points sitting around you could convert to 4,000 Avios in Iberia Plus (NOT in BA Executive Club, which has a worse rate). Even better, you would get €80 off a hotel room. Converting to Eurostar is probably equally as good as moving to Avios in Iberia Plus, but you are losing almost 50% of the value compared to booking a room.
At the end of the day, it is always good to have more redemption options. This one involves a noticeable loss of value, on my valuations, but you may have a different view than me on what your Eurostar points are worth.
You can find out more about this new partnership on the Accor Live Limitless website here.
How to get Club Eurostar points and lounge access from UK credit cards (August 2022)
Club Eurostar does not have a UK credit card. However, you can earn Club Eurostar points by converting Membership Rewards points earned from selected UK American Express cards.
Cards earning Membership Rewards points include:
- American Express Preferred Rewards Gold (review here, apply here) – sign-up bonus of 20,000 Membership Rewards points converts into 1,333 Club Eurostar points. This card is FREE for your first year and also comes with two free airport lounge passes.
- The Platinum Card from American Express (review here, apply here) – sign-up bonus of 30,000 Membership Rewards points converts into 2,000 Club Eurostar points. Card benefits include Eurostar lounge access.
- American Express Rewards credit card (review here, apply here) – sign-up bonus of 5,000 Membership Rewards points converts into 333 Club Eurostar points. This card is FREE for life.
EDIT: Until 25th October 2022, there is an exceptionally generous sign-up bonus on The Platinum Card. You will receive 60,000 Membership Rewards points – double the usual amount – and £200 to spend at Amex Travel. You need to spend £6,000 within six months to earn the bonus.
Membership Rewards points convert at 15:1 into Club Eurostar points which is an attractive rate. The cards above all earn 1 Membership Rewards point per £1 spent on your card, so you will get the equivalent of 1 Club Eurostar point for every £15 you spend.
American Express Platinum comes with a great Eurostar benefit – Eurostar lounge access!
You can enter any Eurostar lounge, irrespective of your ticket type, simply by showing The Platinum Card at the desk. No guests are allowed but you can get entry for your partner by issuing them with a free supplementary Amex Platinum card on your account.