Marriott’s W Paris hotel to rebrand

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• 1ATL says:

  8 Nov8 November 04:58

  St Regis is also believed to face trademark issues in Paris.

  This is because of the presence of upmarket independent property Hotel San Regis in the 8th arrendosement.
  It’s the same reason you’ll never see a Four Seasons Resort open in Cyprus – the independent properties were there first.

  • TGLoyalty says:

    8 Nov8 November 08:35

    I wouldn’t say never but not without consent / some £££

    • 1ATL says:

      8 Nov8 November 15:27

      Marriott have so many brands at their disposal these days I’m sure it’s not actually that much of a problem if they wanted a high end property in Paris – just brand it a Luxury Collection or a JW. Or indeed buy the San Regis if it’s that important.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        8 Nov8 November 20:41

        Agree Luxury collection is probably the best route

        However, St Regis and Ritz Carlton are two they’d probably love to have in London and Paris. Losing the lanesborough was probably a mistake as st Regis really is best in a character building rather than new build tower etc.

• John says:

  8 Nov8 November 06:27

  So effectively the “travel ban” is being implemented by the airlines. I wonder if this was the plan all along?

  • Eshaq Choudhury says:

    8 Nov8 November 07:16

    Except for Ryanair who seem to be going full speed ahead. Any idea how they ‘enforce’ a travel ban?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      8 Nov8 November 08:36

      They don’t.

    • Harry T says:

      8 Nov8 November 09:43

      I wish Ryanair would cancel my bloody flights 😂

      • Brian says:

        8 Nov8 November 14:01

        Is it to Denmark? They’ve cancelled all flights to Denmark apparently

  • Relay says:

    8 Nov8 November 07:39

    Also curious on enforcement. I have house viewings on Tenerife to undertake.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      8 Nov8 November 20:42

      There really is no enforcement. If you can make it to the airport you’ll make it on your flight.

  • Al says:

    8 Nov8 November 08:10

    No, I’d say the travel ban is very much being forced onto airlines who can’t justify operating with such low load factors… maybe that was the plan all along.

  • Brian says:

    8 Nov8 November 11:03

    It’s looking like it’ll be a while before passenger numbers recover to anything like pre pandemic levels unfortunately. Long haul is pretty much dead (with a few exceptions) for the next few months

• Lumma says:

  8 Nov8 November 07:03

  I’m curious as to why you think the Curtain hotel is in a bad location? Too far from Harrods?

  • Mark says:

    8 Nov8 November 07:42

    Was wondering this too, it’s a great location if you are working in the Moorgate end of the City

  • TGLoyalty says:

    8 Nov8 November 08:51

    Have to say I was thinking what the location issue was

    • Rob says:

      8 Nov8 November 10:14

      I lived in East London for almost 15 years. I tend to treat the area around Shoreditch House / Boundary as the preferential site for a good hotel, based on access to what else is going on.

      • Gin and Tonic Please says:

        8 Nov8 November 10:55

        The Curtain is (was) under 5 mins’ walk from Shoreditch House. Agree it’s on more of a backstreet than a main thoroughfare though. Mind you, so is Citizen M, and that always seems to be busy.

  • Toppcat says:

    8 Nov8 November 08:58

    Agreed!

• Michael C says:

  8 Nov8 November 07:48

  Alway felt the Marriotts had poor central lounge offerings in Paris (for anywhere near a “normal” price!).
  Thanks largely to a positive review from Rob, I believe, tried the Hilton Opera last Xmas, and was very happy. Gorgeous lobby area, not large but v pleasant room, decent lounge and, above all, fabulous location.

  • Nick says:

    8 Nov8 November 08:46

    Are you having a laugh? Marriott is ‘poor’ location but Hilton ‘great’… it’s literally around the corner from the W!!

    I stayed at the W Paris a while ago. Nice hotel but rooms very tiny (even for Paris). They did give me a one-category upgrade and free drinks as Gold even though they shouldn’t really have done (I booked through LM), so I dread to think what the original room would have looked like. I did enjoy it though.

    • Michael C says:

      8 Nov8 November 09:29

      Location, sure, but don’t remember it having a lounge?
      And as you mention, rooms looked SO small (there are three of us).
      Was thinking more of Marriott-brand with lounges.
      I think I nabbed the Hilton in a sale @ Dec. = €180 for 3 in a club room.

    • Bob says:

      8 Nov8 November 10:17

      Tiny rooms is the problem for the Westin too and lot of hotels in central paris.

      This often what makes americans not to chose the westin for instance.

      Long time ago, far before marriott buying starwood, I remember an american colleague booking Le Meridien Etoile who had a special agreement with marriott, at that time when mariott had only the champs-elysees property, because the rooms very bigger and she could credit her stay to marriott.

• Chris S says:

  8 Nov8 November 08:15

  Jet2 still selling multiple flights a week from Scotland to the Canaries (and Funchal, I think). We’re not ‘banned’ yet, just looked at ascance for thinking of leaving on a flight…

  • Colin MacKinnon says:

    8 Nov8 November 10:29

    I should be in Fuerteventura now, except Jet2 cancelled both Glasgow and Edinburgh flights on Tuesday just the day before! Surely they could at least have merged them into one flight?

    • Harry T says:

      8 Nov8 November 11:29

      @ Colin
      I flew out to Tenerife from Edinburgh on Tuesday, and the plane was literally full. Perhaps they only cancelled flights they thought had lower loads?

      • Harry T says:

        8 Nov8 November 11:29

        I flew with Jet2 btw

        • Colin MacKinnon says:

          8 Nov8 November 11:49

          For Fuerteventura, Jet2 now only running Glasgow, it seems, and only weekly (was twice a week from Edi and Gla)
          Also not running next week at all.
          Suspect very low loads and fear of package holiday regulations.
          Am just now booking the Ryanair flight for Tuesday- can only go a week because Ryanair not operating to (or back!) from FUE in the second half of November!
          Beautiful day in Scotland yesterday – dull foggy autumn this morning, got to get that Vit D!

  • Harry T says:

    8 Nov8 November 12:36

    Have a great time, Colin!

• Mikeact says:

  8 Nov8 November 08:37

  Shame about SOU…once again it’s the drive up to LHR. This could be a good excuse for KLM to once again, call it a day at SOU…..permanently.

• TGLoyalty says:

  8 Nov8 November 11:31

  Accor has a 50% share in the SBE the holding company that owns SLS, Mondrian, Hyde, NY Hudson, Sanderson and St martins lane.

  Though seems none of their hotels actually take part in ALL? Is that going to change or will they stay independent?

  • Rob says:

    8 Nov8 November 13:04

    You assume they will join, but Accor is very slow at integrating acquisitions.

• Peter says:

  8 Nov8 November 11:52

  Never realised the Ritz in London isn’t actually a Ritz-Carlton! I always thought they just abbreviated it

  • Save East Coast Rewards says:

    9 Nov9 November 10:37

    The Waldorf in London is a Hilton rather than a Waldorf Astoria

    • TGLoyalty says:

      9 Nov9 November 21:41

      It used to be a WA but was downgraded.

      Admiraly Arch will be a WA!

      • Rob says:

        9 Nov9 November 21:52

        It was never a WA. Syon Park opened as a WA.

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