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Creation cancelling credit cards which have been used with a Curve Card

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Creation Financial Services, issuers of the IHG Rewards and (closed to new customers) Marriott Visa credit cards, made a very aggressive move on Friday in its dispute with Curve Card.

It appears that the majority of credit cards which had been used with a Curve Card are being closed.

One call centre agent said that 1,800 cardholders were impacted. We cannot confirm this number.

Creation closing IHG and Marriott credit cards used by Curve Card holders

The closure letter states that cards are being closed on 3rd December.

Based on reader discussions with the call centre, but not confirmed in writing by Creation:

  • annual free night vouchers on the IHG Rewards Premium credit card will still be desposited if the cardholder spends £10,000 before their card is closed
  • there will NOT be a pro-rata refund of the £99 annual fee on the IHG Rewards Premium credit card – although you would be free to dispute this with the Ombudsman

If you cannot trigger your free night voucher by 3rd December but would otherwise, you arguably have a case for a full refund of your IHG Rewards Premium £99 fee for the current year.

Why is Creation banning Curve Card holders?

It isn’t entirely clear what is driving this, although I was told by an independent industry consultant that it was being pushed by National Savings.

Curve Card, for those who don’t have one, is a debit card which allows you to recharge transactions to a linked credit card. You can learn more about Curve Card in this article.

This meant – most specifically – you could deposit money into National Savings and have it charged to a miles or points earning credit card as a purchase. Most Curve Card holders had a £9,000 daily limit albeit capped at £1.8 million per year.

Whilst Curve Card had always had blocks in place for payments to banks, there were certain grey areas such as National Savings, HMRC and various investment firms such as Hargreaves Lansdown.

Creation had initially sent out text message to cardholders a few weeks ago saying that its cards could no longer be used with Curve Card. I was told at that time that mass account closures would follow, and here we are.

One problem is that the ban is catching many people who used Curve Card purely for Apple Pay functionality. It was the only way to add your Creation card to Apple Pay.

For clarity …. the free IHG Rewards credit card is still open to new applicants. Creation is not pulling out of the UK and is only closing these 1,800 (TBC) accounts.

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Comments (860)

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  • Toddy says:

    I’ve noticed that Curve have been replying to people on Twitter…
    “We are aware that Creation have taken steps to prevent their customers from spending with Curve. We’re working with them to discuss this stance and we’ll post an announcement once we have an update”.

    Feels like Amex all over again with them!

    My worry (and theirs!) will be that other card issuers follow suit…

    • Youllnever says:

      It hasn’t been a good journey for Curve – looks as if their product is being whittled down to near non-existent purpose.

    • Harrier25 says:

      I think customers unlinking their cards and running scared will be the big immediate issue for Curve, long before any problems that may arise from other card issuers.

      • Youllnever says:

        That’s what I’ve done coincidentally – don’t really want to risk my other cards being closed down as well.

      • Roy says:

        Why would Curve care? Customers cost Curve money – presumably they’d be happy for people to stop using their services /s

    • His Holyness says:

      I’m happy I paid by annual fee on a credit card for some S75!

  • Jimbob says:

    Wouldn’t it have been simpler simply to add a cash advance fee of 3% to any pseudo cash advances such as NS&I?
    The MS would have quickly stopped

  • Youllnever says:

    Sanity check question please: Foreign transaction fees don’t accrue interest daily, correct? It’s a one-off interest charge on the payments?

    • John says:

      Fees are not interest.

      If you don’t pay a statement balance in full then fees will accrue interest.

    • Genghis says:

      For Creation, say, it’s a 3% charge for purchases in foreign currency which is built into the GBP charge. No interest on normal purchases.

    • Youllnever says:

      Thanks everyone! Now I just need to decide if it’s better moving these payments to the Gold or WE card…

      • Guernsey Globetrotter says:

        The Virgin cards are fee free in the EEA, if that’s of any help?

        • Youllnever says:

          It is my understanding that it’s only applicable to ‘card-present’ transactions? So online payments don’t apply?

        • Harrier25 says:

          Mastercard exchange rate or interbank rate?

  • Roy says:

    If issuers are allowed to close accounts just because they don’t like the merchants you spend at, where exactly does this leave the Mastercard (and Visa) systems?

    • Blenz101 says:

      Use them as normal and intended and you will be fine. All the bleating is related to those who used a product which masked their transactions. Some sympathy for those who wanted Apple Pay but most of the fuss is caused by those emptying a credit card into a savings account.

      • Roy says:

        The MS crowd may be the vocal majority in HfP comments, but I very much doubt they represent the majority out there in the real world.

        Most of the MS crowd seem to be fairly philosophical about this anyway…. they new their gravy train wouldn’t last. Those making a “fuss” are those of us who did nothing wrong, who *did* use the products as normal and intended, and are being tarred with the same brush, in blatant disregard for their obligation to treat customers fairly.

  • inizii says:

    Rob – do you expect Clydesdale Bank will do something similar with Virgin Atlantic cardholders who have used Curve with NS&I?

  • jj says:

    No letter waiting for me on my return home today. I feel strangely deflated.

  • RTS says:

    i actually got told off by bendy…

  • Dave says:

    Anyone know if this affects Marriott cards, or just IHG?

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