London City Airport gains a new route to Deauville

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• Dubious says:

  26 May26 May 06:34

  “You will almost have a private jet experience, with L’Odyssey using a 27-seat Saab 340B aircraft.”

  🙂

  More like a private turbo prop experience surely?

  I can find prices in September for €479 Return (starting in LCY). 15 Kg check in luggage allowance.

  • yonasl says:

    26 May26 May 08:12

    From the photos on their website. It is more like sharing a van with 26 other people then being in some luxurious setting.

    Food and other could be an interesting differentiator. But do you really care in such a short flight?

  • yorkieflyer says:

    26 May26 May 11:18

    Flown a Saab 340 on Nokair a few years ago, no private jet experience for sure, fun though

• vol says:

  26 May26 May 08:05

  Whatever happened to that other Citation offer – @Rob wrote about it in February 2020 – I was looking seriously into it – and then Covid happened 🙄

• The real Swiss Tony says:

  26 May26 May 08:29

  I think a rather important point has been missed on those Aer Lingus fares.

  It’s £275 EACH WAY on a return basis.

  https://www.aerlingus.com/plan-and-book/latest-offers/flights-from-britain/flights-from-manchester-to-north-america/

  And it also seems that unless you travel at the very start of July, you’re paying a lot more than the headline fare.

  • Rob says:

    26 May26 May 08:52

    Oh. That’s not what the email the marketing people sent me said – at least not clearly.

    • apbj says:

      26 May26 May 09:14

      Aer Lingus, uniquely, continues to market return fares by promoting the each-way price even though the fare is only available on a return basis. To be clear, it’s impossible to fly to the US on Aer Lingus for £275, no such fare exists. It’s as if Tesco were to advertise 50p milk when you can only buy bottles that cost £1.

      This is obviously marketing nonsense and I challenged it some years ago with the ASA who batted it off to their Irish counterpart who were either unwilling or unable to understand the confusion so I gave up.

      • John says:

        26 May26 May 09:27

        So any foreign company can make false advertisements in the UK and the ASA will claim it’s out of their jurisdiction?

        • apbj says:

          26 May26 May 10:03

          Yes, it seems so. Even when the product is entirely for UK consumers, advertised in the UK and involved travel departing the UK.

      • Entitled says:

        26 May26 May 09:34

        They do say “£275 each way, as part of a return trip” on the website so they are not claiming the fare exists as a single.

        • Rob says:

          26 May26 May 09:47

          The Aer Lingus home page says ‘New York from £275 – book here’, implying that is the return fare.

      • Dubious says:

        26 May26 May 09:35

        It stinks doesn’t it. This is what some companies do here in Singapore – mostly the banks when they advertise their savings rates (up to 1%…on balances between $70,000 – $100,000…but a range of lower rates on the amounts below that).

        • apbj says:

          26 May26 May 11:11

          But “up to 1%” is fairly clear that rates might be lower. In the case of Aer Lingus, £275 is a mythical fare – nobody is paying £275 for anything. I cannot see how promoting it can be allowed.

        • John says:

          26 May26 May 12:13

          In Hong Kong banks often (at least in the decade before covid) advertise interest rates of around 15-25% in the front windows of branches. I think I saw 34% once.

          The small print is very complex. You can get 25% APR over a short period, usually 1 or 2 weeks, by speculating on forex movements. If HK$10 buys £1 at the time you take out the product, you can choose to speculate that it might not drop to (e.g.) $9.80 in a week’s time.

          If you are right, you will get a very high APR on the HKD you staked; if you are wrong, you’re obliged to convert your HKD stake to GBP at the now poor rate of $10 (and you also get the high interest rate on the GBP, but it’s still worse than converting at the exchange rate at the end point).

          The interest rate offered varies based on the potential future exchange rate you predict so it is possible to use this as a hedge, if you have a need to exchange currency and understand the product enough to do the necessary calculations.

          Obviously you’re never going to get such a high rate without some risk, but I thought it was just crazy how the signs were basically saying “you can get 20% interest in a week!” and when you ask about it they need 20 minutes to explain.

        • Dubious says:

          27 May27 May 07:18

          Just to be clear, the comparison is not with the ‘up to’, but rather the lack of the thing advertised.
          0.60% on 0 to 70,0000
          +
          1.00% on 70,000 to 100,000

          = 0.72% maximum on the 100,000.

          It’s like taking something that can only be bought in whole (return tickets), slicing it up into parts (legs), and selectively quoting rates (prices) on a specific sub-component (outbound leg) without displaying the full picture.

      • The real Swiss Tony says:

        26 May26 May 11:08

        If you wanted to have another go, the TATL Aer Lingus flights from Manchester are operated by Aer Lingus UK or some such entity, as an EU carrier no longer has rights to fly from the UK to the US. That said I see they are based in Belfast and I have no idea if the ASA works in the same way in that market.

• Paasan69 says:

  26 May26 May 09:10

  I have an upcoming Radisson BLU 4 night stay priced at £135 pn/£540 total. This is a category 3 hotel so normally 45k on to redeem, discount now to 38.250 on, total 153k. Dividing £540 to 153k gives me a return of 0.35 cents per point.

  However, buying 100k of points as suggested in the article would mean buying at 0.445 cents per point. I would consider this a bad deal since the usual valuation is 0.33 cents per point. That is if my math is correct of course.

  Contemplating cancelling the cash stay and booking with points instead (I have the points, no need to buy) but still think the return isn’t great at 0.35. The cash stay will yield around 20k points itself. Any suggestions?

  • Rob says:

    26 May26 May 09:29

    If you have the points to hand its really down to whether you value points or cash at the moment. It’s a fair but not outstanding redemption at the rates you quote. It’s certainly not worth buying points.

  • Erico1875 says:

    26 May26 May 09:38

    Surely your return is 0.35p, nor cents. So at $1.26 to £ that’s 0.44c per point

    • Paasan69 says:

      26 May26 May 12:01

      Of course, it is 0.35p, not cents, my bad. Thanks for your input.

• Mikeact says:

  26 May26 May 09:36

  For anybody interested in French diesel prices currently, I paid €1.73 Ltr on leaving LaRochelle yesterday morning, a week earlier it was €1.83..same LeClerk supermarket !
  (Around £1.53)

• Ruth4325 says:

  26 May26 May 10:07

  Slightly random question – when travelling to NYC with my 14.5 year old daughter will USA border control expect me to have a consent form from my husband? It’s not something I had thought of and we travel tomorrow!

  • Rob says:

    26 May26 May 10:38

    Should be fine if you share the same surname on your passport (I am doing the same thing in July). Some countries cause issues if names don’t match.

    South Africa used to be terrible for this but they have chilled in recent years.

  • The real Swiss Tony says:

    26 May26 May 11:11

    I flew into Orlando with my two sons (16 & 12), My wife then travelled with daughter a couple of days later. No problems in that regard for either of the parties.

    • Ruth4325 says:

      26 May26 May 11:17

      Thank you – I have a consent form that I printed off and my husband and I both signed (just in case). Hopefully won’t need it as my daughter and I both have the same surname. Great to have these data points though. Much appreciated.

      • John says:

        26 May26 May 12:28

        That doesn’t really make sense as you could be your husband’s sister or some other distant relative… Are mothers who don’t change their surnames more likely to abduct children who are meant to be in their father’s custody?

        My family operates on the policy of bring birth/marriage certificates plus copy of the non-present parent’s passport and have them available for a video call in case requested by immigration, but the only time anything happened was in 1995 when two Canadian citizens were departing Canada, they all lived in Asia and the dad didn’t travel on this holiday, the officers wouldn’t let them go until they woke up the dad at 2am local time to answer the phone.

        • S879 says:

          26 May26 May 18:49

          I don’t know about the USA, but I have a different surname and Haverfordwest had issues coming back home to the UK. Keep the birth certificate with you and consent letter with contact details from the dad. Been stopped twice with once my child being taken 15 feet away and questioned about whether I was really his mum. Officer said UK is one of the biggest hub for child trafficking so just a letter from dad won’t be proof enough.

        • S879 says:

          26 May26 May 18:49

          Sorry, I meant ‘have had issues’

• Andrew Mc says:

  26 May26 May 10:31

  Trying to link my Radisson account to Amex to do first transfer. Amex webiste returning “Sorry, there has been an error!”. Any ideas? Thanks.

  • Harrier25 says:

    26 May26 May 11:29

    I went onto online Amex support to get my Radisson account linked this time last year.

  • Paasan69 says:

    26 May26 May 12:04

    Try to exclude the first 6 digits of your membership number. Worked for me.

• AJA says:

  26 May26 May 10:39

  Well done HfP for deleting the misleading Aer Lingus offer. These advertising tactics which make it appear much cheaper than it really is need to be stopped.

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