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Avios to Nectar conversion rate devalued! What should you do?

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In a ‘surprising but perhaps not surprising’ move, British Airways has announced a devaluation of the ‘Avios to Nectar’ exchange rate.

This is NOT a two way devaluation. The ratio from Nectar TO Avios is not changing.

What this means is that you can no longer move Avios back and forth between the two schemes without any cost. You will now suffer a loss if you do so.

Avios to Nectar conversion rate devalued

What is changing?

Emails announcing this change seem to be going out today. It is not yet reflected at ba.com.

At present, 250 Avios converts into 400 Nectar points.

Since a Nectar point has a fixed redemption value of 0.5p, it meant that there was a floor value on the value of your Avios. 250 Avios got you 400 Nectar points worth £2, so 0.8p per Avios.

If British Airways or partner flight redemptions started to look like bad value, it didn’t matter. You could move your Avios to Nectar and guarantee yourself 0.8p. To be honest, you would struggle to get 0.8p of value on many flight redemptions, especially in long haul Economy, and I know that for many HfP readers transfers to Nectar had become very attractive.

After all, you could arguably use your Avios for Nectar points to pay for your weekly Sainsbury’s shopping and put the cash you saved into a holiday fund to buy flights for cash …..

From 16th November, the transfer rate moves to 300 Avios = 400 Nectar points.

To save you getting your calculator out, the floor value of an Avios now drops to 0.67p as 300 Avios = £2 of Nectar points.

Bizarrely, the rate is unchanged in the other direction

The rate when you transfer Nectar points TO Avios remains at 400 Nectar points = 250 Avios.

This means that you can no longer move your Avios backwards and forwards without penalty. You will effectively be losing a percentage if you reverse a transaction.

Why has this happened?

It doesn’t take a genius to point the finger of blame at IAG Loyalty / Avios. There are two issues, I think.

The first is that, clearly, when you transfer Avios into Nectar points, IAG Loyalty has to pay real cash out to Sainsbury’s, which owns Nectar.

Because some IAG partners are paying close to 0.8p for their Avios, and presuming that IAG pays Nectar the full face value, IAG isn’t making any money on many Avios partner transactions.

This wouldn’t be a problem if people were choosing to spend their Avios on flights. However, it is becoming increasingly clear to many people – especially with British Airways increasing surcharges on Avios long-haul business class flights to almost £1,000 – that this isn’t something they want to do. Cashing out to Nectar made sense.

It is also logical that, with the economy taking a turn for the worse, saving some cash by converting Avios to Nectar to pay for your weekly shopping makes sense. It is a lot better for your budget than paying out almost £2,000 in taxes and charge for two ‘free’ business class flights to North America.

(The collapse of the £ won’t have helped either. It is now shockingly expensive to take a holiday anywhere where the currency is pegged to the US$, and many people will be rethinking their travel plans in the light of this. Paying £400 for a meal for six people, two of which were children, in a very average Mexican restaurant in Dubai last week came as a bit of shock to me, I promise you.)

The other issue is that the 0.8p transfer rate meant that British Airways had to remain ‘honest’. There was a limit to how much it could tinker with Avios because any negative changes would lead to a dash to the (Nectar) exit.

This 2nd factor is still true, of course, but to a lesser extent. Moving from 0.8p to 0.67p of Nectar points per Avios gives BA a little more wiggle room to leg you over, but not much.

It would be fascinating to know what Sainsbury’s makes of this. It will now see a lot less money coming in, as people decide not to convert to Nectar, but will still be paying IAG when people convert into Avios.

What should you do?

There is a very simple piece of advice here.

If you have 50,000 Avios in your British Airways Executive Club account, you should move them to Nectar before 16th November.

There is NO downside to doing this, only upside.

50,000 Avios is the monthly transfer cap, by the way, if you were wondering why I settled on that figure.

Look at this logically.

Today, 50,000 Avios gets you 80,000 Nectar points, worth £400.

After 16th November, 50,000 Avios will only get you 66,666 Nectar points, worth £333.

If you can’t find a good use for the Nectar points, you can still swap them back after 16th November with no loss. Because the incoming rate remains at 400 Nectar points = 250 Avios, you can swap them back into 50,000 Avios and you’re quits.

You have locked in a minimum 0.8p valuation for those 50,000 Avios. It will give you some protection if anything is coming down the line after 16th November to explain WHY IAG decided that 0.8p was now looking too generous …..

Conclusion

The two-way simplicity of Avios to Nectar transfers was the real charm of the scheme. The two schemes could operate symbiotically as one.

This is no longer the case. You will only transfer to Nectar if you knew that you had a firm plan to spend them, since transferring back to Avios would see you incurring a loss.

Most importantly, the floor value of 0.8p per Avios has been stripped away. There was, of course, no floor value at all prior to January 2021 when the Nectar partnership launched, so the fact that there is still a floor value – albeit a lower one of 0.67p per Avios – is still an improvement on the pre-pandemic situation.

If you believe that this move heralds some major upcoming changes to airline redemptions, I recommend moving 50,000 Avios into Nectar at some point in the next 14 days to lock in a guaranteed minimum of 0.8p of value.


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Comments (360)

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  • memesweeper says:

    “It would be fascinating to know what Sainsbury’s makes of this”

    Many prior partners of Nectar/Sainsbury’s have had the same problem (more outflow than they projected/could afford) and all left the scheme. No partner has ever been allowed to have a differential exchange rate. Given the huge marketing push within Sainsburys when the Avios tie-up launched I think there will be reluctance to push hard back on BA, but in all honestly, I think the folks managing the relationship will be livid. This is not how Nectar is supposed to work. I’d expect at the least a levelling of the exchange rate: perhaps the end of the deal altogether.

    Personally I have just made what is likely to be my last MR -> Avios exchange for a long time. I think we can all see the writing on the wall for the next big Avios change by BA.

    • Lady London says:

      Do you think BA was rushed into this by IB’s public comment about BA’s plans @memesweeper?

      And do you think BA always had a devaluation of the amount of Nectar an avios would buy, was always part of BA’s plan?

  • Rob says:

    A few days ago I booked a return business class flight to Orlando in October 2023. Cost was £1,600 (ish) in tax plus 140,000 Avios plus 2 4 1 voucher. Just looked what the price would be and it is £10,400. Seems like a no brainer to keep Avios points to me!

    • Spurs drive me mad says:

      My daughter in law booked premium economy tickets to Orlando for her and grandson for September 2023, it was a BA holiday we phoned up to book it after I checked for business upgrade availability It cost me 90k avois and an extra £526 in taxes for 2 people. I’m happy I could do it for them and they are happy for the present of an upgrade. They will earn 5414 each way points on the PE fare plus extra for BA holiday points I’ll earn points as they will pay for trip on my BAPP card.

      • vol says:

        Wait – are you saying you can upgrade a BA holiday seat with Avios? 😯

        • Rob says:

          Been possible for years (IIRC) ever since they started allowing tickets issued by corporate travel agents to be upgraded.

        • Spurs drive me mad says:

          I am indeed saying that, I’ve done it several times for myself. I decided best course of action for this booking was to call to make holiday booking with my daughter in law, I spoke to agent and explained I wanted to use my points to upgrade them. Agent checked that was ok daughter in law proceeded with her booking then I cleared security questions and proceeded with upgrade. I had of course checked availability of reward seats first and we came up with a back up plan incase our preferred days went. We had a very helpful agent only had to wait maybe 20 mins before call answered.

  • Oonagh Cacioppo says:

    Apologies if wasting your time guys! Maybe slightly off point….After transferring Nectar to BA avios…..
    1. As i convert Amex point to BA avios, can I convert Amex points (gold csrd) to Qatar avios?
    2. If I have dual pot of BA and Qatar avios are they necessarily safer from devaluation?
    Personally I am giving up on waiting for Far East (only Singapore now) business seats using Companion and booking with Qatar.

    • lumma says:

      If your Qatar and BA accounts are linked you can move the points between each programme whenever you want and presently there should be no real benefit of storing the points in one or the other.

      • Ben says:

        You do not even need to transfer between the two accounts – I recently made a redemption on Qatar’s website, despite only having 2k avios sitting in the Qatar account and the remainder in BA. The necessary avios were automatically taken from my BA account.

  • PeterK says:

    If you are transferring your avios back to nectar and you currently have auto convert switched on, don’t forget to cancel this facility!

    • Damien says:

      How do we cancel that…. I’m on their web page and can’t find it.

  • Alan Todd says:

    Do the auto conversions happen instantaneously from avios to nectar, or is there a 12 delay as on the manual conversions?

  • Stephan says:

    Is tha cap on BA side or just part of the general partnership? Could I transfer from one BA account to multiple nectar account or from multiple BA accounts to one nectar account?

  • Callum says:

    I think you’re being too absolute about this. When I raised this possibility a few weeks ago when Sinead was promoting the Avios subscription by saying “you might as well go for it, worst case you can convent them to Nectar at 0.8p” – my concern was largely dismissed because it’s “hard for one partner to change the rules”.

    Now you’re saying that theres no downside to converting 50k to Nectar because you’ll get a warning if it devalues the other way too, but you can’t know that for sure. You’d expect Sainsbury’s to give notice, but what if they don’t?

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:

      Too much opinion taken as fact around these parts by some.

      • Andrew says:

        Let’s not forget this is a blog/journalistic website reporting stories and opinions (very good ones often), but nothing more than that.

        • Rob says:

          When I were a lad, Andrew, I used to make good money selling trade directories – top second hand record shops in the UK, etc.

          In the olden days, you made money by selling ‘facts’, because ‘facts’ were relatively hard to find, hence encylopedia sales etc, and people would pay for them.

          The internet changed the dynamic. ‘Facts’ have no value any longer. Google can give you any ‘fact’ you want for free. The value, and what people will pay for with their eyeballs / page views / subscription fees, is opinion and analysis.

          • Mr(s) Entitled says:

            No criticism here Rob. HfP do a good job in the whole. Articles are considered and far from sensational.

            But opinions such as not being a downside to moving Avios to Nectar is just that. An opinion.

            The comment is more in relation to the lemmings that now do so without stopping to reach their own conclusion.

          • Rob says:

            True. But it is also true to say that it is a no-lose gamble (unless you seriously believes Sainsburys would devalue the other way with no notice – and even if they did, you’ve still got 0.8p for your Avios).

          • Callum says:

            Rob – My point was that you didn’t believe BA would devalue it yet they have – mere weeks later.

            You now believe that Sainsbury’s won’t devalue without notice (I share the same hypothesis, but it would be perfectly logical for them to do that and avoid a potential sudden outflow), but I think it’s clear why I think it’s unwise for you to refer to your suggestion as having “NO downside”. By all means recommend this as the best course of action (and I fully agree with you), but I think it’s irresponsible to suggest it’s guaranteed.

          • Andrew says:

            It wasn’t a criticism 🙂

  • David says:

    I might be missing something (and do correct me, if so!) but despite BA’s fuel hedging failures, crazy ‘carrier surcharges’ or whatever they’re called, plus questionable CS, IT, etc… as the cost of everything continues, wouldn’t they need to increase the number of avios required for a given (and for all) redemptions? Again, leaving aside all the other issues above (and others mentioned in this article’s comments) the ‘cost’ of BA in getting someone to say NY has increased across the board? Absolutely not defending any of their actions, but it would seem somewhat expected… to me!

    • David says:

      *cost of everything continues to increase!

    • Patrick C says:

      That cost has no bearing on the Nectar conversion rate though.
      This is purely driven by how much BA receives per avios awarded (partner or orhterwise) and how much BA pays to Nectar for the conversion and how much nectar pays BA for the conversion.
      Conceptually the current agreement probably worked out that a lot more Nectar points were bought vs Avios and so they renegotiated the commercial terms. In other words the floor value for Avios was likely too attractive relative to the value of Avios.
      If you put this in monetary economics terms, Avios suffered from a devaluation vs nectar. That’s about it.

      • davidn says:

        Absolutely, and looking back I see the comment wasn’t clear, sorry! I meant in terms of all those saying that a ‘devaluation’ of redemptions would be the likely/possible next step in this process… that NY in CW would become 200k or whatever. So yeh, not really a comment on the article, but a comment on some of the “I’m leaving Avios” comments. 🙂

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