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Norse Atlantic launches three seasonal Caribbean routes from London Gatwick

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One of the nails in Norwegian’s coffin was that it chose to fly long haul routes from London Gatwick with strong seasonality on a year-round basis.

Norse Atlantic, which has (literally) inherited Norwegian’s long haul fleet, is loathe to make the same mistake.

It has just launched three Caribbean routes that will make the most of its aircraft during the quieter winter months when leisure passengers are less keen on a (cold) USA East Coast city break.

Norse Atlantic launches flights from Gatwick to Caribbean

Here are the new destinations from London Gatwick, which are now bookable:

  • Barbados – launches on 29th October with daily flights
  • Kingston (Jamaica) – launches on 31st October with three flights per week
  • Montego Bay (Jamaica) – launches on 29th October with four flights per week

These will be joined by the following routes, which operate all year round but (in some cases) reduced winter frequencies:

  • Boston
  • Fort Lauderdale
  • Los Angeles
  • New York
  • Orlando
  • San Francisco
  • Washington DC

In total Norse Atlantic will operate 10 routes from Gatwick. It will be the second largest long haul operator at the airport this Winter based on available seats.

It is also launching its first foray to Asia with flights from Oslo to Bangkok.

The new Caribbean routes start from £449 return in basic economy. This compares favourably with other non-stop services from British Airways and Virgin Atlantic, which currently retail for over £500, and often £600+, although the margins are reduced when you factor in the cost of baggage and other ancillaries on Norse.

What is it like flying Norse Atlantic?

You can read our review of flying Premium on Norse Atlantic from Gatwick to New York here.

You can also see how Norse Atlantic’s premium economy compares to British Airways and Virgin Atlantic here.

Norse Atlantic 787 Premium seat

Norse flies a fleet of Boeing 787 Dreamliners, Boeing’s newest long haul aircraft. This means bigger, electronically dimming windows and a lower cabin altitude, which reduces the effects of jetlag.

In Premium, you can expect a small cabin of 56 seats in a 2-3-2 layout. Norse Atlantic has the largest leg room of any UK carrier, with a seat pitch of 43″ and a deep recline of 12″. Based purely on leg room and seat space, Norse Atlantic in Premium is head and shoulders above British Airways and Virgin Atlantic.

The economy experience is tighter, with rows of nine-abreast seating. If you book the cheapest fares, you’ll only get one small underseat bag included in your fare, with additional options available for a fee.

Norse also offers two fares – Economy Classic and Economy Plus – which bundle benefits such as seat selection, a meal service and a checked bag.

The bottom line is that Norse Atlantic is a low cost carrier, so you should expect to pay more for any extras you may want or need. Think of it as a long haul Ryanair flight, albeit with arguably the best Premium cabin across the Atlantic.

Conclusion

It will be interesting to see how these Caribbean routes fare, given that Norse Atlantic will be competing with both Virgin Atlantic and British Airways.

Jamaica is a big package holiday destination with fewer holiday makers booking their own flights than Barbados. Without any sort of BA Holidays-type operation it will find it harder to fill seats. There is, however, a bigger ‘visiting family’ market here than to Barbados.

Curiously, Norse is launching flights to Bangkok from Oslo rather than Gatwick. BA no longer flies directly to Bangkok from London, leaving Thai and, oddly, EVA Air as the only airlines to fly direct between the two cities. On paper Bangkok would seem a good match for the more price sensitive customer that Norse Atlantic attracts, who are less bothered by the lack of business class – something that will count against it on the Barbados route.

The future looks promising for Norse. Whilst it is easy to question why it should succeed where Norwegian failed, using exactly the same aircraft, there are four things which definitely tip the balance towards Norse:

  • the 787 fleet is now well established and reliable – Norwegian, along with many other airlines, had huge issues with fleet reliability due to early problems with the engines which in turn led to huge costs for compensation payments and ad-hoc charter aircraft
  • fares are substantially higher than pre-covid on all airlines, giving Norse more flexibility
  • we have seen little enthusiasm from British Airways or Virgin Atlantic to run spoiler services (albeit Delta Air Lines has returned to Gatwick) – at one point BA was flying to Oakland and Fort Lauderdale purely to frustrate Norwegian on the same routes
  • pivoting to Winter sun destinations – Norse Atlantic is chasing higher-yield Winter routes rather than sticking to cities that may be profitable in the Summer but loss-making in the Winter

You can book on the Norse Atlantic website here.

Comments (41)

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  • vol says:

    Nice news from Norse – thanks for the heads up!

  • Jack says:

    Interesting choice of flights to the Caribbean. I wonder why they settled on Jamaica and Barbados?

    From a quick look, the prices are no cheaper or little than BA once bags are added et cetera.

    • Chris W says:

      There is strong demand to Barbados all winter from the UK – this would be the most obvious first Caribbean destination.

  • CamFlyer says:

    Norwegian used to run SJU-LGW; there is no nonstop competition on that route.

  • Chris W says:

    This is a smart move for winter though the headline fares seem a little high considering it is an LCC…

    I’m surprised they’re not trying Dubai or Cape Town in winter…

    • Stu_N says:

      Too much competition to Dubai (BA/ Emirates/ Ethiad/ 1 stop with Qatar).

      Cape Town is bad for aircraft utilisation due to distance and lack of time difference – 12 hour flight and then your plane has to sit on the ground for 12 hours before returning.

      • Chris W says:

        There’s more competition LON to NYC and Norse seem to do fine with that. Oneway LON-DXB fares in January start from £444 – are you telling me Norse couldn’t offer it for under £300?

        VS have day flights back from CPT, so the aircraft is only on the ground for a few hours.

      • Rob says:

        You forgot Royal Brunei to Dubai!

        Qatar is a pain though – a lot of sitting around in Doha for a 45 minute connection on what is only a 6-7 hour direct flight.

        • Stu_N says:

          “Qatar is a pain though – a lot of sitting around in Doha for a 45 minute connection on what is only a 6-7 hour direct flight.”

          Doesn’t make much difference if you’re starting outside London.

          • Luma says:

            It does when emirates fly from multiple UK airports

      • yorkieflyer says:

        Nope, Virgin flies back from CPT in the morning

  • Richie says:

    BTW Eva Air celebrated 30 years of flying TPE-BKK-LHR in March this year.

    • Rhys says:

      Very odd!

      • AJA says:

        Why is it very odd that EVA Air flies directly from London to Bangkok? That’s no weirder than Norse flying directly from Gatwick to any destination in the US or now the Caribbean.

        • Rhys says:

          It’s a fifth freedom route, so yes it is odder than a UK carrier flying direct to the US!

          • AJA says:

            Norse Atlantic Airways UK is a subsidiary of Norse Atlantic Airways, the Norwegian parent headquartered in Arendal Norway. And was only established in March this year because I’m guessing it was easier to set up that way since before then it was already operating a fifth freedom flight from OSL via LGW to JFK (the LGW-JFK leg being the fifth freedom flight) Rob even flew the LGW-OSL leg very cheaply to try the “new” airline out. (I say new as it is simply using the same aircraft as the collapsed Norwegian).

            My point being that the LGW-JFK flight is (or was) operating exactly the same way as EVA Air does on its LHR-BKK flights. So again how is what EVA Air does any more odd?

          • Rhys says:

            The fifth freedom flights were always a stop gap until they got their UK AOC.

            And let’s be real: Norse Atlantic is really a UK airline, funded with Norwegian money. It operates far more flights from Gatwick than it does from Oslo.

            Anyway, my point is that in the grand scheme of things, fifth freedom flights are rare. So yes, it is odd!

          • Dubious says:

            It makes some sense from a market diversification and aircraft utilisation perspective: three markets for the price of one.

            It also helps reduce the dependence on certain airspace.

      • ADS says:

        With Eva not being able to fly over Chinese airspace, it’s probably a reasonably efficient routing for them from TPE to London

        And presumably the distance was a challenge 30 years ago – so BKK was a handy refueling stop … and it stuck !

    • SamG says:

      Fifth freedom in that part of the world isn’t uncommon, especially for carriers with a small home market. Singapore Airlines / Scoot operate various . That EVA flight is usually quite pricey and very rarely have I seen it available for redemption so must do OK!

      • Vit says:

        Pre-covid, we were able to find less than £400 RT ticket from LHR-BKK for July/August. Their Y product is not bad too compared to other top airlines. So we were really please but yes you have to be rather flexible with dates.

      • meta says:

        Eva Air have plenty of redemption availability, just not at set release time. Sometimes they do release as soon as schedule is up, but usually not. So best is to set up alerts with Expertflyer. I recently booked a J redemption TPE-LHR via BKK and flew, but wasn’t impressed with food, drinks or the crew. The seat was fine and amenity kits plus pyjamas in business class were nice.

        However, these seem to be completely separate flights as you have to clear security in Bangkok again. Take all your belongings and the crew changes completely. The worst is that you have to walk almost all the way out then turn around and walk back the same way. All this in under an hour.

        I went to Eva Air lounge in Taipei. There are three, one is for Eva Air elites and then there are two lounges separated by the reception. Food for breakfast was terrible and totally inedible.

        I also went to Eva Air lounge in Bangkok for 15-20 minutes. Hundred times better than the one in Taipei. Really nice thai green curry and mango sticky rice.

        • Vit says:

          yes, there is no hard-rule on the redemption release. We managed to get NRT – TPE – BKK later this year. But from your experience above, I am not too sure now about spending 5 hrs in the lounge in TPE.

          And of course, everyone loves mango sticky rice! 😉

          • meta says:

            There are plenty of other great options at the TPE airport. I just remembered that I actually went to the Plaza Premium briefly for coffee as one in Eva lounge was not good. Plaza was better than Eva Air lounge, but less of a zoo and slightly better options and good coffee. So maybe head there if you have Amex Platinum (it’s not on Priority Pass, so need to show Amex Plat). There’s also Oriental Club Lounge on Priority Pass, but I haven’t been, so if you have 5 hours maybe you could go on a lounge hopping.

          • Vit says:

            Thanks @meta. I ended up downgrade mine to Gold now as I fair amount of FX expenses on company so it just worked out better. I am surprised though for EVA Business lounge at their home-base to be subpar. We shall see.

  • Seagull says:

    “The future looks promising for Norse”

    Not sure I totally agree with this. Load factors since launch are just 63% and were 52% and 50% for January and February respectively. Hopefully they manage to increase these over the summer and the new winter routes allow them survive.

  • Pedro says:

    BA scrapped at short notice LGW-Montego Bay direct last year. I had booked a BA holiday and was only offered Kingston (4 hour road journey to resort) or a 31 hour total journey time via Miami. I asked for and got a refund but by then it was incredibly expensive to book a BA holiday elsewhere. In hindsight I should have asked them to rebook me with Virgin. Good luck to Norse, it might just get BA to sharpen up its Gatwick operation.

  • JB says:

    I’m sceptical about how viable these routes will be without an associated holiday operation. In my experience in the hotel/travel industry, there’s not enough people travelling to these destinations that are booking accommodation separately to flights to justify the volume of seats that Norse will be operating. As you say, VFR may get them over the line in Jamaica but less so Barbados plus they’re going to have to be much more price aggressive than BA/VS out of LON and TUI out of BHX to win that business.

    • SamG says:

      Aer Lingus do Barbados out of Manchester and that seems to work, the likes of onthebeach etc will pick up the flights as part of a holiday booking

      Jamaica is surprising though as BA and Virgin are a bit off an on with those routes over the years I think which suggests they aren’t the strongest destinations

      • JB says:

        I don’t believe (but will happily be corrected) that Norse will be widely available to package by operators to BGI or MBJ from Gatwick which is very different to Aer Lingus to BGI from Manchester which is widely sold. Very few/no operators and only a few OTAs are currently using Norse flights to package US destinations so unless something changes it will be the same for the Caribbean.

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