Which hotel loyalty programmes will rollover your ‘excess’ elite nights on 31st December?

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• Daniel says:

  27 Jul27 July 05:27

  Had a very frustrating encounter with Hilton this year where I ended the year on 100 nights. 60 were rolled forward from prior year and 40 earned during the year. My logic was that any earned night during the year would count towards rollover nights since with the 60 nights that rolled into 2023 I had already triggered Diamond again (for HH Diamond until Mar 2024). Turns out that in order to qualify for rollover nights, I first had to do another 60 nights during 2023 and only then any excess night is rollforward into 2024. Seems like a stupid rule to me and I will not let my Diamond lapse – particularly with an easy parallel Diamond requalification challenge going on (in which actual diamonds couldn’t participate) that was just a slap in the face. HHonors feels dead anyway – I’ll just keep focusing on Bonvoy, maybe attempt Globalist one day and for the rest just go via a luxury travel agent.

  • C says:

    27 Jul27 July 06:03

    I couldn’t agree more, I have been HH Diamond for 6 years but this year I am letting my status wither and die. I have had some terrible Lounge experiences (zoo’s) in Hilton’s this year and with status match(es) and challenge(s), it feels like half of Hilton guests are Diamond… it has become a bit of a giveaway reinforcing my view that a new tier is needed above Diamond.

    I’m also a long term Bonvoy Platinum Elite so I have instead been exclusively focusing on Marriott, and will easily hit Titanium by end of year…

    Adiós HH…

    • Brighton Belle says:

      27 Jul27 July 08:38

      My route to Diamond is 30 stays. The few lounges Hilton has are steadily decreasing the experience with inferior food offers and swamped lounges. I’m wondering if it’s time to move on. I could do Marriot with the Amex card free nights credit. What are Marriot lounges like in London are there many of them? Marriots seem to be pricier than Hilton’s in London. Keeping Hilton status is easier in Brighton with a few mattress runs at the new & improved Doubletree in the winter months. Prices for a wet & windy weekend by the seaside attract only the intrepid so prices reflect the misery.

      • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

        27 Jul27 July 09:43

        Marriott has priced itself out of the London work travel market IMO. The lounges are better than Hilton but still the problem remains that in the absence of business travellers with good etiquette, they have been replaced by lesser socialised leisure travellers.

        (Before I got priced out and stopped staying there) I found the lounge at County Hall and Sheraton Grand were full of American family/friend groups doing big European trips and treating the lounge like a communal living room. Shoes off, ‘lounge wear’ to be very generous in my description, guzzling the buffet food and retaining entire bottles of drink on their tables, then ordering Domino’s, KFC or such like to be delivered – to then eat in the lounge.

    • Henry says:

      28 Jul28 July 00:01

      How would you exactly define a zoo, you also being a part of it? Also, how about all of those Diamond members who also think that they should belong to a tier above Diamond, would you think there should be an additional tier again? Just accept you’re as equal as those in the same tier as you, or like you said, don’t and take your business elsewhere. 🤷🏽‍♂️

• Sam says:

  27 Jul27 July 07:39

  I’ve been HH Diamond for the last 4 years. We are looking to visit NY next year and was looking at potentially staying at the Hilton Midtown, as it has the lounge.
  However, after contacting the hotel for some info, they have what’s called resort dining credit (instead of the free breakfast). This basically just covers the cost of the urban destination fee, so you aren’t really getting anything here.

  Plus every man and their dog over in US has HH Diamond, as all it takes is being a holder of the Hilton credit cards, where ludicrously high bonus offers of 100,000 points are regularly offered just for signing up.
  I have just under half a mil Hilton points earned exclusively through paid stays with work and was considering aiming for lifetime diamond but I’m kind of thinking what’s the point – do Hilton actually distinguish between the two?

  • Alan says:

    27 Jul27 July 08:36

    Yep Hilton is pretty dreadful in the US now with only credit rather than actual free breakkie. IHG have far more competitive points redemption rates (sometimes half the cost!) plus proper breakfast rather than credit as Diamond. I still find Hilton decent in Europe & Asia though.

    • Daniel says:

      27 Jul27 July 08:43

      @Alan – Agree on asia, but feel like most european properties are quite run down at this stage, particularly in the UK (whereas I quite like the Conrad St James).

    • Sam says:

      27 Jul27 July 08:51

      Yes I agree, Even in UK. I generally find the Doubletree hotels the best in terms of recognising HH Diamond – always get handed drinks vouchers for me and guest and regularly upgraded to suites (rather than just an identical room in a preferred part of the hotel). Westerwood Golf Resort Glasgow a particular favourite.
      As long as that dreaded dining credit doesn’t make its way over here!

  • Harry T says:

    27 Jul27 July 09:08

    Free breakfast has unfortunately been enhanced away in the US. You also won’t see many suites over there, as literally anyone and basically everyone holds Hilton diamond via a credit card. I find the benefits of Hilton status fairly weak anyway, with no guaranteed late checkout and poor upgrades. The points can be useful for the truly excellent and very expensive Waldorf Astoria hotels, like Beverley Hills and Amsterdam, although the price for these in points has gone up since I last stayed there.

    I personally am putting Hilton to one side and focussing on Bonvoy as my main programme, where elite recognition has been excellent (plenty of suites outside of the US, actual late checkout) and introduction the dynamic points pricing has actually made it easier to get a bargain. Plus Bonvoy has the best footprint of decent hotels by far, especially in Europe, Middle East and Australia.

    IHG has made positive changes as of late like adding a breakfast benefit, so I will be keeping that going as my secondary programme via the Ambassador strategy to renew Diamond. I can’t really see what Hilton is offering these days.

    • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

      27 Jul27 July 09:47

      I agree with this assessment. Unless you know you have an Asian stay coming up in 2024 where lounge access would be worth having, no point chasing down Diamond. Gold via the Amex Plat will suffice. I’ve never been given a true late check out at a Hilton as a Diamond; more usually a mealy mouthed half hearted “We could stretch to 13.00 but no later.”

      • Ian M says:

        27 Jul27 July 11:44

        Yes same, I find Hilton to be very poor with late checkouts as a diamond. Recent 7 night stay at the Biltmore in Mayfair, no upgrade and checkout of 1pm was the best they could offer.

    • John says:

      28 Jul28 July 22:17

      Doesn’t Marriott also issue 1mm credit cards in the US (both Amex and Visa/MC)?
      Time to switch to Accor 😉

• YC says:

  27 Jul27 July 08:35

  Mind sharing the aug value marriott hotel? 🙂

• John says:

  27 Jul27 July 08:51

  Hyatt frequently does Q3/Q4 promos which feature some sort of rollover.

  Different topic: Some programs (e.g., Hyatt and IHG, but not Hilton) have very strong milestone awards. These diminish the value of rollover nights in many cases.

  Happened to me in the past with Hyatt: C19 promo ensured my Globalist extension, but I still continued to credit nights to obtain TSUs.

  Will happen to me this year on IHG: I’m at 85 nights but only at 59 nights for the purpose of the milestones. Ofc, I will credit at least 11 more nights to IHG.

• Gary says:

  27 Jul27 July 14:05

  I have a question regarding HH rollover nights. If I end the year on 59 nights do I get Gold status plus 19 rollover nights? and if I end on 60 nights do I get Diamond and no rollover nights?

  • Rob says:

    27 Jul27 July 14:24

    Correct

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