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Avios redemptions on Cathay Pacific and Japan Airlines devalued with no notice

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British Airways has quietly snuck out a devaluation of short- and mid-haul Avios redemptions on two Asian partners – Cathay Pacific and Japan Airlines (JAL).

It only impact flights under 3,000 miles. Long haul services retain their existing pricing.

With cash flights often relatively cheap in this part of the world, you may end up thinking twice about a redemption unless you need the flexibility to cancel or change your ticket.

Avios redemptions on Cathay Pacific

Whilst you might not immediately think that this impacts you, it may well do. Avios redemption seats are very tight to Tokyo and Hong Kong, for example. One way around this is to fly into China on British Airways – where seats are more easily found – and then connect on JAL to Tokyo or Cathay Pacific to Hong Kong. China’s visa rules don’t apply if you do this, even if you stopover for a couple of nights.

How has Avios pricing changed?

The changes are not uniform across both carriers.

It’s worth remembering that this is the second devaluation of Cathay Pacific and Japan Airlines flights in two years. Click here to see what happened in July 2021. For example, whilst we show very short Cathay flights going from 7,500 Avios to 9,750, they were only 6,000 Avios in June 2021.

Here is the Cathay Pacific pricing:

ZoneDistanceOld EconomyNew EconomyOld BusinessNew Business
11 – 650 miles7,5009,75016,00020,800
2651 – 1,150 miles10,00012,00025,00030,000
31,151 – 2,000 miles11,00014,30025,00032,500
42,001 – 3,000 miles13,00015,60038,75046,500

Here is the Japan Airlines pricing:

ZoneDistanceOld EconomyNew EconomyOld BusinessNew Business
11 – 650 miles7,50010,50012,50017,500
2651 – 1,150 miles10,00011,00024,00026,400
31,151 – 2,000 miles11,00014,30024,00031,200
42,001 – 3,000 miles13,00015,60038,75046,500
JAL Japan Airlines Avios redemptions

There is a loophole though

Ever since Qatar Airways Privilege Club adopted Avios as its reward currency, it has provided a fall back in case of any painful changes to British Airways Executive Club pricing.

This HfP article shows how to link your Qatar Airways Privilege Club and British Airways Executive Club accounts.

Here’s an example. This is Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City on Cathay Pacific in Business Class booked via ba.com:

Using Avios on Cathay Pacific

It’s 30,000 Avios + £56.

Here is the exact same flight booked via Qatar Airways Privilege Club:

Book Avios redemptions on Cathay Pacific

Yes, you can save 45% on the Avios required for this route (I assume the taxes are the same – you can’t book it online) by transferring your Avios to Qatar Airways Privilege Club and booking from there. I can’t guarantee similar savings on every route but it is clearly well worth checking.

I’m losing count of the number of different Avios pricing charts that exist: Aer Lingus peak and off peak, Iberia peak and off peak, British Airways peak and off peak, Qatar Airways, Japan Airlines, Cathay Pacific, American Airlines, all other partner airlines and the multi-partner chart. I make that 12. You also need to factor in the fact that the Iberia, BA and avios.com websites sometimes throw up different taxes and charges figures, plus the fact that Qatar Airways may have totally different partner pricing. Coming soon we will have Finnair’s Avios pricing chart too ….


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2025)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

Get 5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

30,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, and the standard card is FREE. Capital on Tap cards also have no FX fees.

Capital on Tap Visa

NO annual fee, NO FX fees and points worth 1 Avios per £1 Read our full review

Capital on Tap Pro Visa

10,500 points (=10,500 Avios) plus good benefits Read our full review

There is also a British Airways American Express card for small businesses:

British Airways American Express Accelerating Business

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (86)

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  • david says:

    Does anyone have any other of these quirky sweet spots (like BKK-HKG with RJ) but to leave PVG and preferably down to DPS/CGK? cheers

  • david says:

    One thing of note ive found no availability on ba.com for HKG-SUB 27 July but then did the same date search on Qatar partners and it says flight found. Do they have extra availability or the Qatar request form likely to come back with a fail?

    • Lady London says:

      Just as with codeshares you’ll find seats on a flight are carved up and each seller or coder makes their own offering.

      So a BA flight can show no seats free but a codeshare partner may still be selling seats. Same physical flight. Works for cash, so I’m sure something similar can apply for award seats. And as Rob spelled out in the article, then you have the layers of the various airline loyalty programs that can access the seats.

      Making Amex cards particularly useful as you can decide to transfer MR’s to the program you’ve found seats on your target route/airline via. Or Marriott hotel points if any of the to-airline conversion options are stil useful. Or the HSBC card for some

      • david says:

        thank you for the tip.

        • Kevin says:

          +1. Thanks for the tip.
          I tend to leave my Marriot Bonvoy points where they are as I’ve no other way to get AA points for the odd flight I might see at decent value.

          • meta says:

            Bonvoy to AA conversion no longer works for me when Marriott removed the extra 5k miles on AA transfers.

    • Kwab says:

      Qatar Partners finds all flights in the schedule. It is no indication of availability whatsoever.

      • Dan says:

        +1 Qatar always shows availability and you have to fill the form for request and wait few days to be told there is not seat. I’d suggest to use the Qatar option only if the flight is available on the partner airline page

  • Lady London says:

    Hey @Rob is HSBC amenable to signup promos? With Amex tightening in various ways it would be nice to have alternatives even just for some…

  • QFFlyer says:

    Avios were once excellent value and remain so in some areas, compared to Qantas points, so I held on to them for things like this. But given the gap is closing so much, and the extreme ease of accumulating QF points, I’m less and less incentivised to hold them (although mid haul QF redemptions remain great value, MEL-PER or NZ, which are almost half the number Avios vs QF). Star Alliance gets more and more attractive by the day, especially with the HSBC card, although I don’t see myself jumping ship entirely.

  • Bernard says:

    As usual, BA and avios are trying to stretch things too far. It’s now becoming a case of getting so little for so much input.
    When, for example, a £280 Chaffee flexible ticket c as n be bought on Ethiopian to Cape Town in business for £2,300 return for their excellent 787-9 business seat, what is the point of BA?
    That gets Star miles earning, as does Etihad with SAS Eurobonus. With the SAS great value business class long haul offer, I’ve given up on BA. It ms now a poor product, rubbish for mileage earning and gets to nickel and dime you at every turn. A shame but there are so many alternatives that this years changes have been the final push to move my business elsewhere and also (now) all my employees work travel too (since the ‘on business’ mess).
    So when heading for points, there’s more to life than BA’s increasingly poor value Avios pesos.

  • His Holyness says:

    Is it usually possible to redeem QR miles on their site? Or is it because in the example it’s a partner? I’d rather not call the Indian CC.

    • Rob says:

      You can redeem for BA, AA and Qatar online via Qatar Privilege Club.

      • His Holyness says:

        Thanks. Is the availability identical? Domestic should be £0 tax as well.

        • Rob says:

          Qatar – no. BA and AA should be, unless you are BA Gold.

          All other partners should be identical to what ba.com shows.

  • Kevin says:

    It’s nearly every week now that we hear about some negative changes to Avios/BAEC. I only started playing this game in December 2020, under the guidance of Rob and his team at HfP may I add, so I missed “the good old days”. I wonder what the next change will be? My money is on the £35 pp change fee going up. I also think that BA will increase tier thresholds soon, maybe by 10-20%.

    • His Holyness says:

      Rolling out the Y, W and J tax thing on redemptions to F.

    • Lady London says:

      I’m looking out for a complete revamp and since covid have been thinking lateish 2024. I don’t think they will take much longer than that and a more serious change than just a few % here and there. That’s if they announce anything of course. They may just continue the continuois rather serious devaluations they,’ve been doing picking off one geography at a time. Last year America, this year Asia. Where’s next?

      They ‘need’ to clear out the lounges and may have been listening to @BJ too. Whatever, we can be sure BA will probably still put lounge access into corporate deals in some way shape ot form that won’t just depend on travelling class.

      • Jack says:

        There is no need to clear out the lounges as you say everyone there has the right to be in there . There is no need to revamp the scheme it works well and is one of the better ones , also there is no evidence any major changes are coming . Devaluations of miles is the way all loyalty schemes work and why you shouldn’t carry too many avios at once . There is no need to change the exec club at all the lounges are not rammed every single day and everyone there ultimately has earned the right to use the lounges

        • Lady London says:

          My ‘need’ is not their ‘need’, unfortunately.
          I ‘know’ they won’t invest capital in improving lounge conditions for the masses. It’s also away from trends towards ever greater unbundling from the bottom moving up – though never quite to the very top end – and more segmentation.

          Hope I’m wrong, @Jack, though, of course.

          • Jack says:

            BA have of late been improving the lounges starting at T5B so they are investing in them for sure but it takes time to do. I am confused as to what you are thinking may happen down the line as there is nothing to suggest any major changes .Ultimately their is no need for BA to change the programme or cause further division by focussing on travellers like business travellers who do not pay for tickets and do not need more benefits as such. It should stay as it is now and I suspect it will for a while to come at least as BA is focussing more on the leisure market now as seen by some new routes and also the fact business travel will not return to pre covid . Loyal customers should be rewarded not messed around

    • Rob says:

      The £35 fee has been 50p all year! Assuming you cancelled and rebooked rather than made a change.

    • Jack says:

      The £35 change fee is only so if that is what you pay for a redemption otherwise it is 50p or whatever it is . Why do you think BA will increase teir thresholds there is no need to . Status is not easy to earn as it is and requires a significant amount of flying There is no need to change the thresholds

      • meta says:

        It’s so easy to earn Silver because of double tier points. Two BA holidays bookings in J to Sofia/Bucharest/Athens and you have Silver. That’s only 4 flights.

        As some insider posted here when they announced new pricing, they planned even worse changes, but decided to postpone them.

        I don’t think BA plans to announce any changes in advance anymore as if I recall correctly couple of years ago (maybe more) they did announce changes in advance and it was a field day for seats.

        • Jack says:

          I am getting fed up of hearing it is easy to earn silver it is not easy whatsoever. You have to make 2 BA holidays booking to earn this which require a significant investment so it is not as if you can easily earn it and not that many people use it . Ah the famous insider who has not shared what this is possibly going to be yet everyone suddenly believes them there is no other changes coming as it would have been announced already time to stop speculating . There is no changes coming as a major one has already happened which is the change in earning avios . I’m curious whether this insider has speculated about

          • Rob says:

            I don’t think 2 x 5 night holidays to, say, Athens for Silver is a major strain 🙂

            I was thinking the other day that if I was single, even 3 x holidays in Asia flying Qatar (BA codeshare) was an easy way to renew GGL.

  • Rizz says:

    I’m sure US credit cards are to blame, since we know that’s the only reason for points/miles inflation…

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