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Shai Weiss on Virgin Atlantic’s future: Upper Class, Clubhouses, Heathrow and more

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Last week I interviewed Virgin Atlantic CEO Shai Weiss about the future of the airline.

Yesterday, I published an article looking at why I think Virgin is about to announce a new aircraft order at Farnborough.

In this article, I want to look at the future of the customer experience, from the Clubhouse at Heathrow to new routes.

The future of Virgin Atlantic

The future of …. Upper Class

Virgin Atlantic currently flies three different Upper Class seats:

Whilst innovative at the time, the 2003-era seat is very dated and lacks features more modern seats have, such as high levels of privacy and in-seat storage. At 6’2 with wide shoulders, I also find it quite narrow and short.

“It was one of the first true flatbeds flying. Some people love this herringbone. I personally do, but I understand that some people want more privacy.”

Whilst the A330s with the old seat are slowly being phased out with the arrival of the new A330neos, a decision on the Boeing 787s will depend on whether Virgin Atlantic decides to renew their lease or not.

“If we made a decision to retrofit the 787s, it would probably be in the configuration of the A330-900neo. You can see where our mind is with the A330neo and that’s the standard of the cabin we want to offer. It’s one of the best in the sky, definitely crossing the Atlantic.”

With no firm announcement made on the replacement or retrofit of the Boeing 787 fleet, it sounds like we are still years away from a wider rollout. At that point, the 2003 seat will have been flying for over 25 years.

The future of Virgin Atlantic

The future of …. the onboard bar

In a recent Sunday Times article Sir Richard Branson described the replacement of the onboard bar with the Loft social space as “a dreadful mistake. We’ll be bringing back the bar as soon as we possibly can.”

Unfortunately for Richard, it doesn’t look like the social spaces are going anywhere. Shai said:

“You know, we have a bar on the 787s and we have social spaces on the A330neos and A350s, and that tells us where we’re going. You can’t just change direction mid-course. The stream of planes coming in is of that nature. We like the bar, of course, but there are always trade-offs. The bottom line is that all our planes come with bars and social spaces.”

The future of Virgin Atlantic

The future of …. Clubhouse lounges

Virgin Atlantic currently operates six Clubhouses around the world, with the vast majority in the United States:

Virgin is currently in the process of assessing its Clubhouse portfolio. One casualty has been the Manchester Clubhouse which was announced in 2019 but delayed due to covid and now cancelled.

“For the level of activity there, we just couldn’t justify level of investment for a Clubhouse. It was a commercial decision.”

The Heathrow Clubhouse is now increasingly busy as Virgin Atlantic rebuilds its network. The spa and hair salon were dropped during covid and replaced with Peloton bikes for a short while, but haven’t returned.

During a press conference in Las Vegas last week, fitness fanatic Sir Richard Branson suggested that he would like to make better use of the outdoor terrace in the Heathrow Clubhouse and turn it into an outdoor gym. I think he may have forgotten the UK climate – this isn’t the British Virgin Islands!

The future of …. Virgin Atlantic at Heathrow Terminal 3

Whilst Shai has said he has a very good working relationship with Heathrow airport, there remain points of contention.

“We are in a terminal that needs some attention, Terminal 3, and we’re going to be there for a few years, that’s for sure. So I’d like to see a rapid expansion of the new security lanes, continued operational excellence and overall customer satisfaction creeping up.”

And long term?

“Support for a new home for Virgin Atlantic to be delivered by the end of the decade in Terminal 2.”

Is that even possible?

“It is possible. It’s already in the plan anyway, right? Not all of Terminal 2, the core Terminal 2.”

As Shai notes, Terminal 2 was always designed to be extended. A 2012-era Heathrow press release said:

“The second phase would extend the main Terminal 2 building northwards onto the existing Terminal 1 site. This phase, which would also include the construction of a second satellite building, T2C, would increase the capacity of Terminal 2 from 20 million passengers a year to 30 million passengers a year.”

A 2019 document said that an additional satellite, T2D, could increase passenger numbers to 52 million per year.

Work is moving in the right direction, with construction of a new baggage handling system underground between T2 and its satellite so that Terminal 1, where the existing system is, can be knocked down. This is due to be a six year project so Shai may have his work cut out if he wants a new terminal by 2030.

Pre-pandemic, Virgin Atlantic carried almost 6m passengers both in and out of Heathrow. A 10-million passenger capacity increase at T2 would allow Virgin and its SkyTeam partners to co-locate in a single, modern terminal building – “a home fitting for a flag carrier.”

The future of Virgin Atlantic

The future of …. new routes

During the 40th birthday celebrations, Shai and Richard announced the resumption of flights to Toronto – the third time Virgin Atlantic has attempted that route.

But there’s more to come. I’m told there are more new routes to be announced, although the only one we know of so far is to Seoul. This is part of a deal with the UK Competition and Markets Authority to approve the Korean Air-Asiana merger.

I asked Shai if he was confident the route would launch:

“We don’t control that …. we are a recipient of that decision. I think the last regulator to approve the merger between Asiana and Korean Air is the United States. As soon as that happens, we receive the remedy slots. It’s not paying us, but we get the slots at Heathrow and Seoul. It happens to be that they are also a SkyTeam partner. So I would hope that their merger goes through so we can announce the commencement of operations, but it’s not in our control.”

Flights to Korea would add much-needed capacity into East Asia, with Virgin Atlantic currently only flying to Shanghai. Hong Kong was dropped a few years ago.

The future of Virgin Atlantic

The future of …. Flying Club

Read the comments on any Virgin Points redemption article on Head for Points and the issue of sky-high taxes and fees soon rears its head. On some routes, it is now £900+ return in Upper Class.

British Airways, meanwhile, has introduced Reward Flight Saver. This caps surcharges on business class redemptions at £350 return on the majority of long haul routes, albeit with substantially more Avios required.

(Reward Flight Saver isn’t necessarily wonderful, of course. Far more Avios are required than before if you want to book the ‘low charges’ option. It IS good value if you are using a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 companion voucher, because if you are getting ‘2-4-1’ on the inflated Avios element. If you are not using a voucher then one of the ‘fewer Avios, more cash’ options may be a better deal.)

Will Virgin Atlantic introduce anything similar?

“We’ve been on a very nice journey right, where there was limited availability to Flying Club. We then went to guaranteed availability, 12 seats on every plane. And I think we have a few ideas to make that even more exciting. There’s a bunch of stuff coming out, starting very soon.”

The first announcement will be made in the coming weeks, but I am told several positive changes are in the works.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2025)

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You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 18,000 Virgin Points and the free card has a bonus of 3,000 Virgin Points):

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Comments (150)

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  • Can2 says:

    I must confess it made me feel optimistic, particularly if they expand their routes.

  • TomB says:

    As long as there’s still a chance an UC booking on any flight gets switched last minute to one of those heinous 787-9s I’m not booking any work or personal flights with VA. It is ghastly especially when you’ve coughed up a lot of your own £££ or points.

    • HampshireHog says:

      Agreed, I prefer PE to upper on the 787 by a big margin

    • PH says:

      Agreed – that seat (plus possible disruptions from onboard bar) make BA’s old CW look like a treat

  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    Are you sure about Newark?

    VS don’t fly there anymore and the last I heard it was part of plaza premium but had since closed.

  • Ryan says:

    BRING BACK HONG KONG ROUTE

    • BJ says:

      +1, asap please.

    • ChrisBCN says:

      Hong Kong has gone for ever, in multiple senses

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        This, sadly. Other routes in SEA seem far more likely.
        As a curveball, I’ve always wondered if – with the right promo and great integration with Virgin Holidays, nonstop to Bali could work, despite the flying time and plane usage issues? Destination seems to fit the Virgin branding so would have significant publicity/prestige value?

        • Richie says:

          I think DL has non stop flights to SEA.

          • Mark says:

            So does VS, but I don’t think that’s what @The Savage Squirrel meant!

          • The Savage Squirrel says:

            Hehe. SEA = South East Asia. I talk in acronyms, not airport codes🤣

        • Kamil says:

          Sydney via Bali/Phuket? There are huge demand both ways.

        • Gordon says:

          Last time I flew with Virgin was around 25 years ago, if they had Direct flights to DPS I would reconsider a return.

          • Nick says:

            Non-stop flights from Bali to London aren’t feasible because the runway there isn’t long enough. Remember that Garuda stopped in CGK when they did it. Once you have a fuelling stop, it’s not really much different from a connecting itinerary that would be cheaper anyway.

          • tiberius says:

            I flew to DPS with Emirates in an A380? Is there a virgin plane which needs a longer runway than the A380?

          • Deek says:

            Dubai-Bali is a lot shorter than London-Bali – VS would need the longer runway due to extra fuel weight.

    • Ryan says:

      Any other sweet spots from London/nearby EU airports to China/HK/Asia using Virgin miles?

      Loved the LHR-HKG route!

    • ZW says:

      + Hong Kong or Singapore, plus onward skyteam routes. Virgin Atlantic could be a strong candidate for travels to China/SEA/Australia.

  • sturgeon says:

    Very little revealed there, quite disappointing. Especially regarding the 787. I don’t believe in the ‘watch this space’ style announcements that don’t seem to amount to anything. I’m still waiting for the ‘exciting’ new feature that replaced the loss of Boingo WiFi from their credit card.

    • david says:

      The refusal to answer the question on their eye-watering surcharges, speaks volumes.

    • Rhys says:

      If things weren’t happening you would simply say “no”. The fact that he isn’t speaks volumes.

    • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

      “we have a few ideas to make that even more exciting” – is this the VS equivalent of BA’s “Following customer feedback, we are enhancing…”

      • HampshireHog says:

        At a guess, a menu of different mixes of points and cash as BA do

    • HampshireHog says:

      I do despair if Sheiss really thinks the 787 upper seat is in anyway acceptable

  • RobH not Rob says:

    Any further talk of cashing in unused vouchers close to expiry in return for miles / points?

  • Chris W says:

    In summary: maybe things will improve one day, but there are no details as of now.

    Not the most inspiring interview I’ve ever read.

  • Eric WARD says:

    Can LHR handle 52 million passengers without another runway?

    • Rhys says:

      Would involve demolishing T3.

    • JDB says:

      Heathrow handled c.79 million passengers last year and it will probably be higher this year. The 52 million number is just for an expanded T2 that will absorb all the capacity from T3, not the total.

    • Chris W says:

      I would think Virgin moving to an extended T2 would be about as likely as the third runway, i.e. will never happen.

      • Rhys says:

        Third runway or not, at some point T3 needs to be replaced. Extending T2 is how that will happen.

      • JDB says:

        @ChrisW – Virgin will move to T2 as there will be no alternative when there are just two terminals and VS won’t be in T5. There is no prospect of that happening by 2030.

        • Chris W says:

          So all of T3 flights would move to T2? Wouldn’t that require a lot more than a new C pier in T2 and an extended checkin area?

          • JDB says:

            @ChrisW – yes, ultimately there will probably be just two terminals (2 & 5) so 3 & likely 4 will go. It’s a huge project that will also require a new access tunnel as the current one alone would be insufficient. Also demolition of T1 once the new T2 baggage system is fully operational and that project hasn’t started yet.

      • Richie says:

        T1 baggage prolongation and the T2 new baggage project are both risky for HAL and if costs rise, they’ll try all methods to ultimately recover monies from passengers. Future projects will be delayed.

        • JDB says:

          @Richie – every major infrastructure project whether at an airport or elsewhere is risky. That’s why so many investors prefer to buy these projects once they are completed or largely completed.

          You would find it very difficult these days to get the contractor to take all the risk. These projects do of course have risk contingencies built in, but if there were still cost overruns, there are mechanisms for the regulator and airlines to address those.

          • Rhys says:

            Not as risky as you think. Heathrow appears to be in rude health, despite what their accounts suggest. “A £9.5 billion valuation would suggest after tax earnings of £1-2 billion. Not a company struggling to break even.” https://www.gridpoint.consulting/blog/a-stocktake-on-the-financial-health-of-heathrow

          • JDB says:

            @Rhys – I’m sure you are aware that the revised Heathrow stake sale proposal by Ferrovial announced last week no longer values HAL at that £9.5bn valuation and will now leave Ferrovial with a residual stake.

            The report you cite suggests that level of ‘real’ profitability based on the P/E of a domestic gas supplier/explorer and an international electricity/gas grid operator. How are they remotely comparable to an airport and the P/Es they attribute to NGG/CNA are simply incorrect.

          • Richie says:

            Thanks @JDB, some good points. Can you say a little more about “..mechanisms for the regulator..” please.

          • JDB says:

            @Richie – these are the capex governance protocols:-

            https://www.caa.co.uk/publication/download/20795

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