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Virgin Atlantic orders seven more A330neos, keeps Dreamliners and confirms LAX Clubhouse

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As we predicted, Virgin Atlantic has placed a top-up order of seven A330neos as aircraft replacements. It also has options for a further nine should it want to expand the fleet.

Virgin Atlantic CEO Shai Weiss and Airbus Commercial Aircraft CEO Christian Scherer announced the news on board the airline’s 5th A330neo, the 40th birthday special Ruby Rebel, which is currently on display at the Farnborough International Airshow.

Virgin Atlantic orders 7 more A330neos

Virgin Atlantic already has five A330neos in its fleet of an initial order of 13. The top-up order will take it to 19 to become the backbone of the airline.

By early 2028, Virgin Atlantic will have:

  • 12 A350-1000s
  • 14 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners
  • 19 A330-900neos

As part of the announcement, Virgin Atlantic confirmed that it had secured the future of 14 Dreamliners, whilst three will be returned to the lessor. Seven are owned by Virgin Atlantic whilst seven have had their lease extended for an additional 8-10 years.

Overall, Virgin Atlantic’s fleet will increase by just one aircraft from today to 45. The add-on order allows the full retirement of the old A330 fleet (of which there are 10 left) and the three Dreamliners it is returning.

Overall, the new order for seven planes comes to $2.1 billion at list prices, although airlines usually negotiate steep discounts. This would value an A330-900neo at $300 million.

All seven aircraft will be delivered from 2027 to early 2028.

Virgin Atlantic orders 7 more A330neos
Virgin Atlantic’s latest Upper Class seat

How will the new A330neos be configured?

Shai wouldn’t be led on the configuration of the top-up order, although in my interview in Las Vegas for the airline’s 40th Birthday celebrations he told me that

“You can see where our mind is with the A330neo and that’s the standard of the cabin we want to offer. It’s one of the best in the sky, definitely crossing the Atlantic.”

He did say that:

“We’re going to innovate more. So a bit more to come on how we configure these planes, but this configuration [on the existing A330neos] is exceptional.”

At the moment, the A330neos are being delivered with 32 Upper Class seats, 46 in Premium and 184 in economy, as well as an updated ‘Loft’ social space. The seat (photo above) is a Virgin-ised version of the Thompson Vantage XL, which is also the basis for Delta’s business class seat, and features a door. This is a very comfortable and stylish seat and I would expect to see it, or an updated version, to fly on the follow-on order.

As to whether we would see the return of a bar-style space on the A330neos: “wait and see.” This suggests that Virgin is evaluating its bar space versus the current ‘Loft’ social spaces on the A350s and A330neos, which Richard Branson called “a dreadful mistake” in a recent interview.

Virgin Atlantic 787 Upper Class 1k
Virgin Atlantic’s old Upper Class seat

No commitment to refurbish the Dreamliners

With confirmation that the majority of Dreamliners are sticking around, the real question is when these will get refurbished with new seats.

If Virgin Atlantic’s old Upper Class seat was a human, it would now legally be able to drink in the United States.

It is becoming a major liability: in every conversation and every article about it, the 21-year old seat is decried as uncompetitive. And yet, Shai seems in no rush to fix this. I was told privately that there would likely be no announcement regarding a refurbishment program until 2025.

That will be disappointing for many, including myself, who feel that the old Upper Class seats are now long past their prime.

New Clubhouse lounge coming to Los Angeles

I spoke to Corneel Koster, Chief Customer and Operating Officer at Virgin Atlantic, about rumours of a new Clubhouse opening at LAX Airport. He confirmed the news and told me they are hoping it will open in the first quarter of 2025.

News of the lounge initially leaked in official airport documents, where the lounge was rubber stamped by the Board of Commissioners. The document revealed that the new Virgin Clubhouse would be a $2 million renovation of the former Etihad Lounge in the Tom Bradley International Terminal: a relatively small 408 square metre space.

Rent for the space comes to approximately $1.2 million per year, which shows just how expensive these facilities are to operate.

This will be the first new Clubhouse for Virgin Atlantic in, I think, over a decade. Will it introduce a new Clubhouse design?

“We always do bespoke designs, with the Virgin DNA throughout, but each location is unique with different elements.”

The new Clubhouse will be the fourth Clubhouse in the United States, in addition to those in New York JFK, San Francisco and Washington Dulles. Virgin Atlantic previously had a Clubhouse in Los Angeles Terminal 2 between 2015 and 2021, at which point it was subsumed by a Delta Sky Club.

Expect to hear more news about the Los Angeles Clubhouse after the Summer.


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Comments (81)

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  • davefl says:

    So Virgin can justify that lounge on 3 flights per day, but not the MAN lounge where they fly between 5 and 7 per day. Says it all really.

    • Rhys says:

      Suggests that customers flying from LAX are much higher value than from MAN.

    • Bernard says:

      Don’t forget the beach fleet only has 16UC seats

  • Jim Utd says:

    And there’s a sky club at LAX which is pretty newly renovated and a Delta One Lounge coming soon, which VS Gold customers will have access to if flying Upper. Lots of choice for 3 flights a day during the summer and 2 during the winter.
    Meanwhile at MAN….

    • Panda Mick says:

      The SkyClub at LAX is one of the nicest Delta have, especially that it has an outside area too (I love the smell of AVGAS in the morning!). nIt faces north, directly onto the northern runway

  • Erico1875 says:

    Corneel Koster,, Shai Weiss. Such unusual names

  • BJ says:

    Nothing to get excuted about here, if they last another 40 years it looks like they’ll be stuck in the doldrums. Where’s the vision, the aspiration?

  • HampshireHog says:

    Looks like they’re trying to just stagger on doing the same old thing. Having three different aircraft in a small fleet is inexplicable other than if seen through a minimum capex lens, oh they don’t make any profits do they…..

  • DaveP says:

    It’s a pity Virgin are celebrating these elements, but can’t/won’t resolve the situation of the shoddy aftermath of the cancellation of the Shanghai route for many passengers.

    • JDB says:

      Indeed Corneel, the boss of Louise Phillips author of the fateful email, might have used his time better sorting out the Shanghai fiasco rather than swanning around at Farnborough. However, the message from the top seems to be that they will brazen it out and affected passengers aren’t their concern. With that attitude, it seems sensible not to be planning for the future with a bigger fleet.

      • DaveP says:

        It will also be sensible from a personal point of view not to be planning to fly with Virgin again if this is typical of the customer support standards they operate.

      • Bernard says:

        Fiasco to you, emotionally.
        Sensible commercial decision to many by steering clear of a failing market where many rational companies have pulled back/away.
        US State department advice is not conducive to visiting CCP China.

        • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

          Whilst it might be a sensible commercial decision the fiasco is referring to how VS is dealing with – or more pertinently not dealing with – the cancellation process and denying passengers their legal rights.

  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    “The new Clubhouse will be the fourth Clubhouse in the United States, in addition to those in New York JFK, Boston, San Francisco and Washington Dulles”

    Wouldn’t LAX be the fifth?

    • BJ says:

      Only if you can count 🙂

      • Kpworldtravels says:

        JFK
        BOS
        SFO
        IAD
        LAX

      • EwanG says:

        “….an initial order of 13. The top-up order will take it to 19”
        Also not sure how Rhys’s arithmetic of 19 less 13 arrived at 7 per the headline…..

  • sturgeon says:

    Yawn. Having half the fleet with an ancient business seat for years to come is so off putting. Why do they think customers will pay similar amounts for this vs competitors with far more modern cabins? I’m so disinterested in paying almost £1k in taxes for a coffin seat I’ve just transferred a large lump of my points to Hilton. The fact their fleet size will stay the same isn’t inspiring either. I actually love flying Virgin, if only they developed some new routes and the obsession over NA was reduced.

    • Qrfan says:

      Here here. Finnair demonstrated that it doesn’t need to be this way…

      • C says:

        I flew Finnair 2 weeks ago on HEL > SEA, they were absolutely superb although I did find the seat began to get uncomfortable nearing the end of the flight and took some getting used to from the off.
        (I remember that there was much discussion on this seat on HfP at the time it launched!!)

      • Rob says:

        As Finnair did 25 aircraft in, what, 2 years?, it does imply Virgin could get the 787 fleet overhauled quickly if they chose.

        • Bernard says:

          Whereas BA is soooo slow.
          Does anyone believe they’ll get all the 787-8,787-9, 4 remaining 777s and the A380 done by 2026 when they’re managing about 2-3 aircraft a quarter?

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