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Qantas reroutes its direct London to Perth flight – and adds a refuelling stop

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Since 2018, Qantas has operated the world’s only commercial non-stop flight from Australia to the UK between London and Perth.

Perth’s westerly location and a premium aircraft configuration meant that the Boeing 787-9 used could just about stretch to London, which at 9,010 miles is the fourth longest flight in the world.

The 17-hour trip proved popular, and Qantas has since launched similar flights to Paris and Rome.

Qantas reroutes its direct London to Perth flight

(The flights are also a proof-of-concept for the airline’s upcoming ‘Project Sunrise’ strategy. This will see it launch non-stop flights from East Coast Australian cities to Europe using modified Airbus A350s with extra fuel tanks to make the 22-hour journey. These planes will feature brand new First, business, premium and economy cabins.)

Unfortunately, geopolitical issues mean that Qantas is having to change tack. Escalating tension between Israel and Iran means that Qantas is rerouting its flights around (rather than over) the region as a safety precaution.

This pushes the aircraft beyond its range threshold and will require Qantas to insert a refuelling stop in Singapore on the westbound flight from Perth to London. So far, flights up to 20th August have been updated, although this is likely to continue for longer.

Flights in the opposite direction – from London to Perth – will remain non-stop as the tail winds mean less fuel is burnt covering the same distance.

The new Westbound routing adds over four hours to the journey time and defeats the object of this non-stop service, particularly as many passengers will be connecting from Melbourne or Sydney. At that point you may as well jump on one of the airline’s existing A380 services that already connect via Singapore.

Passengers will at least be allowed to get off the aircraft in Singapore and use the very good Qantas lounges whilst the plane is refuelled.

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  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    Re the Marriott this was posted on the 6th August

    https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36433996-post84.html

    We are contacting you about your upcoming reservation at the Warsaw Marriott Hotel. Effective 6th August 2024, this hotel will no longer be associated with Marriott but will continue normal operations. Your reservation and rate will be honored.

    ACTION REQUIRED:

    • If you wish to cancel your reservation or seek alternate accommodations, you may do so through http://www.marriott.com, the Marriott Bonvoy app, or by phone global reservations.

    • Any questions regarding your reservation after 6th August 2024, must be directed to the hotel at +48 226306306.

    • For guests wishing to utilize Marriott gift cards, this property will be unable to accept these as a method of payment beyond 6th August 2024.

    MARRIOTT BONVOY MEMBERS:

    • Since the hotel will no longer be affiliated with Marriott International, Marriott Bonvoy member benefits including earning of points and Elite Night Credits will not be eligible.

    • daveinitalia says:

      I thought it would be good business sense for hotels to offer the elite benefits of the scheme they had when they booked the hotel. I remember when the Grand Hotel Stockholm was briefly associated with InterContinental for a few years I had stayed there a couple of times when I was Royal Ambassador (the invite only status of IC) then the third stay happened when they left IC and they promised they would honour the RA benefits (upgrade, free minibar – although I seem to remember the minibar was rather limited compared to other IC hotels which they blamed on Swedish law) but apologised because they couldn’t offer points or status nights.

      The IC Berlin offered similar when they briefly stopped being an IC but the owners had resolved their differences with IHG and it was back to being an IC before my next stay.

  • Occasional Ranter says:

    The direct Perth route is also pretty expensive in J and AFAIK has never had award space, whereas there has been pretty good award availability on QR in J or F.

  • daveinitalia says:

    Related to buying points I just tried the Avios boost on BA. After boosting the transactions the site when back to the page to show individual items to boost and it let me select the same items to boost again. Has anyone tried boosting twice (or more) in a row before the website catches up? Do these extra boosts get cancelled, my worry is if I did that I’d get charged twice but the points would only show up once

    • Occasional Ranter says:

      I’d definitely treat that as yet another ba it glitch that will end up causing you hassle for no further gain…

      • daveinitalia says:

        That’s why I decided not to try it, but curious if someone braver than me had

    • Aston100 says:

      Three seems to be the limit when I did this last month for myself and Mrs Aston

  • Tom says:

    Does anyone have any experience of how long it takes for purchased Hilton points to credit?

    I just purchased 60K points (+60K free = 120K) for a 5 night redemption I need. This deal lowers the price versus cash by 54%, almost as good as the example Rob provided! (and provides for flexibility versus the cheapest non-flexible cash rate).

    Only thing is, the transaction completed (I have a receipt) – but no points yet!

    • Tom says:

      Answering my own question… they took about 15 mins. Very grateful for the article today; thats a genuine saving of 54% for me. Thanks Rob and co!

    • John says:

      If it doesn’t credit immediately it will probably take around 48 hours

  • Domo1915 says:

    Unless I’m missing something the 5 for 4 only works for a basic room. As a family of 5 the suites you have to take are routinely 250k points plus a night so buying points just doesn’t work. Cheaper to pay cash price.

    • Peter K says:

      5 for 4 is almost always a basic room, yes. Occasionally a better room slips through the net.
      If you pay for a premium room on points the cost is linked to the actual room cost at about 0.2p a point. That being the case then paying cash is definitely the way to go.

      With a family of 5 then renting an airbnb might be better?

    • Rob says:

      ‘Premium’ room redemptions are those where Hilton pays the hotel real cash, hence the bad value.

      FAR more sensible to book a standard room and negotiate with the hotel for a guaranteed upgrade. If they don’t play ball, cancel.

  • occasionalranter says:

    Rob – the first link just loops back to this article rather than going to the relevant Hilton page

    • Rob says:

      Hmmm. It doesn’t for me and the coding is correct. Perhaps Mailchimp has messed up the email version?

      • occasionalranter says:

        This was in a Chrome browser, Windows laptop this morning but it’s working for me as well now 🙂

        The link address shown on hovering was and still is “https://www.headforpoints.com/hfp/hilton-buy-points/” but the behaviour on clicking has changed for me so that it goes through to the Hilton site. Not sure if that’s helpful.

  • redhand says:

    How are “elite” members defined for the 5 for 4 night offer?

  • Richie says:

    FR24 shows QF9 did PER-LHR non stop on Wednesday in 16:52 hrs on the safer route via Abhu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

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