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Brunchgate: How many flyers are impacted by BA’s morning and evening meal changes?

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Our articles on the new British Airways long-haul brunch and late evening meal changes this week caused a lot of discussion.

Oliver Ranson of Airline Revenue Economics produced an interesting analysis on the changes for his Substack newsletter and I thought it would benefit from a wider audience.

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We have edited this article slightly from its original format and any errors or typos may be ours. Over to Oliver ….

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

As HfP covered this week, British Airways is now offering a brunch service on longhaul flights leaving before 11.29am. The menus look bonkers. As the HfP article showed, you will get:

  • a starter, like smoked salmon, soup or artichoke
  • a breakfast course like waffles or sausage, mushrooms and hash browns
  • chocolate cake, coffee and liqueurs

You can wash your breakfast down with a nice glass of red or white wine if you wish.

As well as the rather strange menu choices, BA has decided that any flight scheduled to leave before 11.29am will get this brunch menu. This choice looks far too late.

To see why, consider Monday’s BA255 flight to Bridgetown, Barbados. Scheduled to depart at 11.25am, this flight will have featured brunch. Operated by Boeing 787-10 G-ZBLG, the flight left more or less on time and was airborne by 11.45am.

It will take the crew about an hour to get everything ready for the service. So passengers will start to eat around 12.45pm. This is time for the full lunch, not brunch. If the flight had been delayed, which is not unusual at Heathrow, passengers would be eating their waffles or sausages at 1pm, 2pm or later.

For the many passengers connecting from Europe, which is generally one hour ahead of London, the brunch service is even less suitable.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Why has British Airways chosen this model?

Why has BA chosen this bizarre model? Obviously it is down to cost control. But why is the cutover point at 11.29am? I have reverse-engineered their decision, looking at outbound flights from Heathrow.

For simplicity, I have ignored inbound flights and long-haul flights from Gatwick.

Departures leaving before 10.00am might be suitable candidates for brunch. Unfortunately BA simply does not have many long-haul flights leaving that early.

I took the airline’s schedule for 6th November from OAG Schedule Analyser and identified all the long-haul flights departing from Heathrow.

The table below shows that only 1% to 2% of the airline’s long-haul First, Club World and World Traveller Plus (premium economy) capacity departs before 9.00am. In fact, there is just one flight – the early departure to New York JFK.

British Airways departures long haul by time

As you can see, just 14% of First seats and 11.8% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats are scheduled to leave before 10am.

However, 25% of First seats and 20.7% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats leave before the 11.29am cut-off.

BA’s reasoning is now arguably clear. A business case to save money by serving brunch was proposed, and management has pushed the service time back until the savings looked good enough. 20% of passengers was their magic number.

At the other end of the day BA is cutting costs too. It is only offering a light meal on flights that leave after 9.00pm. The table compiled from OAG data shows that this change affects 10.5% of First passengers and 12.2% of Club World and World Traveller Plus travellers.

Together, the cost cutting is expected to impact almost exactly one third of premium cabin travellers flying from Heathrow.

A beautiful number like one third is too much of a co-incidence for me to ignore. This feels like a service change designed by accountants.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Which routes are impacted by these changes?

Choice – in terms of your ability to choose an alternative BA departure with a full meal service – will be eliminated on nine out of 56 long-haul routes on the sample date I looked at.

Six routes will be brunch only: Dallas Fort Worth, Tokyo Haneda, Houston, Lagos, Nassau and Nairobi. On my sample date there are no alternative departures to these cities with a full meal service.

Three routes are only scheduled at times with the late light meal: Abuja, Abu Dhabi and Santiago. Again, on the date I picked there was no alternative BA flight available.

Nine routes will have a choice of brunch or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Bridgetown, Mumbai, Boston, Delhi, New York Newark, New York JFK, Los Angeles, Miami and Chicago.

Four routes will have a choice of a late light meal or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Cape Town, Dubai, Johannesburg and Singapore.

All remaining long haul routes fall exclusively into the noon to 9pm window where a standard full meal will be offered.

(Remember that I have looked at one day only. Some routes like Tokyo Haneda have multiple flights on certain days of the week.)

Things might not be so bad on short flights like Abuja and Abu Dhabi. Nairobi will be a disaster as the flight leaves early-ish at 9.45am but due to the long 8:50 flying time and late 9.35pm arrival it completely fills the day. Passengers will want more than a poached egg on toast.

I would hope that the ultra-long flights to Santiago, Singapore and South Africa are fully catered but I will not be surprised if they are not. [HfP edit – we understand that South Africa flights ARE impacted by the reduced catering.]

Overall, I expect the new brunch menu to be a disaster and it will hopefully be a matter of months before BA cancels it. It is not without form here. When a complex trolley based service was introduced in 2018 (image below) it took hours for the service to complete and the idea was terminated quickly.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Technology is meant to bring us fully personalised airline services

The prognosis for modern airline retailing is terrible. Consider these two conclusions:

  • The 11.29am cut-off point and the resulting optimistic-case 12.45pm service delivery time shows that BA decision-makers either do not understand or do not think through what the service will actually be like in practice
  • The fact that exactly one-third of passengers are impacted shows that service changes are probably designed by or for accountants, not the travelling public

When BA is taking decisions like this, how are they supposed to operate effectively in an offer-order retailing environment?

(HfP edit: ‘offer-order’ is the technical term for the move to fully personalised airline retailing. In theory ba.com would learn from your travel history and intelligently suggest relevant flights and non-flight ancilliaries during the booking flow. Whilst this sounds pretty basic, it is still a big step forward from the current position where airlines still email me asking if I need a hotel in London, despite my trip originally starting here and my loyalty account having a London address on it.)

The standard industry response would be to say that offer-order will be entirely driven by algorithms so it will all be OK. Some people would even say that a simply bad product like BA’s brunch service would not be designed in the offer-order world because data would show passengers would not want it. This misses the point.

Algorithms are designed and monitored according to the priorities of their human controllers. When these priorities are messed up, as the case of brunch shows they will be, the algorithms will simply not work.

Offer-order is seen by airlines mainly as a technical challenge. When it comes to the technical matters I am sure that British Airways’ solutions will be second to none. After all, they have the might of travel IT giant Amadeus behind them. Since they are an Amadeus “driver customer” it is fair to say that what goes down at British Airways will influence the industry.

Unfortunately the case of brunch suggests that the future of offer-order at British Airways may be a disaster because they do not understand what their passengers want. Since BA’s approach to the technology will influence almost every other airline, the future of airline retailing looks dismal for all passengers.

There is a simple solution. Airlines need to train their staff to think like passengers.

Managers should fly several times a year as commercial passengers. They should pay on their own credit card and reclaim expenses like millions of business travellers do.

Unfortunately we all know this will not happen. To fly. To starve.

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Comments (413)

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  • Charlie Whiskey says:

    I have much enjoyed the exchanges here about how much involvement the finance staff have had in these cost saving measures; and Rob’s explanation of his own background.
    I have just studied the background and jobs of one senior, quite influential BA person who should certainly have signed off on these changes, and over the past 15 years in BA they have been: Finance Manager; Area Finance Manager; Finance Director; Financial Controller; Finance Business Partner.
    He is an accountant. His name? Sean Doyle. What does he do? He is the Chairman and CEO of British Airways.
    ‘Nuff said…..

    • Phil Foxtrot says:

      This gets a ‘Like’

    • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

      He was also Director of Network, Fleet and Alliances at BA and CEO of EI

    • TGLoyalty says:

      I’m sure it was presented to him at a high level and he tasted the food but I very much doubt the CEO signed off on every bit of the menu plus the timings of the flights and routes they are applicable to.

      He’s the CEO of a 34k workforce flying 600 flights a day not your local Indian takeaway owner.

  • RussellH says:

    > They should pay on their own credit card and reclaim expenses

    This was exactly how much of the initial testing of contactless payments on London Underground was done. Staff in the ticketing section were required to travel in using their debit cards rather than their passes, and submit claims at the end of the month.

  • Richie says:

    BA has launched a business class sale today.

  • Aston100 says:

    The only thing more embarrassing than this change is the comments attacking those who object.
    I expected it from the forum contrarian, but not so much the other person.

    • meta says:

      He might be a shareholder that hasn’t come out. They shouldn’t be commenting on this as it’s hypocritical.

    • ed_fly says:

      Forum contrarian, now who could you be talking about?? 🙂

      • ChrisBCN says:

        It has been staggering how many can’t see how others could possibly see things differently and want different things. Some of the regular commentariat have become unhinged today ‘I do this and I want this and you must all be the same or you are an idiot ‘.

        I suspect the silent majority are able to understand that sometimes different people want different things, and that’s ok and not worth ranting and posting and posting about.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          It’s not about I do this vs you do that but rather what you see on the ground and on the air.

          I can see all the faces from the lounges on the planes I know they were there eating and drinking, I see them posting on here commenting they were eating and drinking in the lounges and/or on their connecting flights.

          Brunch might be ill timed but I don’t for a second think taking a starter away from post 9:30 flights is a massive deal.

    • JDB says:

      Funnily enough @Aston100 there are quite a few people remarking how little difference this actually makes. Just that some think rather than type some knee jerk advice. I’m not sure you have read anything very carefully either. I haven’t supported this change or defended it. I don’t care as much as others do because the new menus frankly make no difference. When people talk about being starving on a BA flight, then one knows they are talking nonsense.

  • Ironside says:

    “…[the future of offer-order at] British Airways may be a disaster because they do not understand what their passengers want.”

    This. With or without the square brackets.

  • Nick says:

    In principle Oliver’s logic is sensible, though one correction is to point out that DFW isn’t left with only the new service, the other departures (part of the joint business) all still have sensible food offerings. Indeed AA’s food has always been better, at least if you look at the first and second meals together.

    • Nick says:

      P.S. while we’re on the subject of customer cutbacks, one other thing I learnt this week is that lounge amenities are being rolled back too. For example, non-alcoholic mocktails have all been removed (because non-boozers just want coke…), and I’m told the posh teabags won’t be replaced once stocks run out. All seemingly minor in isolation, but they add up pretty quickly. Customer team budgets are being seen as easy pickings.

  • Timerichmoneypoor says:

    Hilarious – the pompous & privileged getting so upset about something so meaningless.
    Let’s see the upset when premium class APD is doubled next week.

    • Jamieboy says:

      What a stupid comment. if paying thousands for a J class seat you expect a decent level of catering to go with your comfy seat.

      • JDB says:

        @Jaimieboy – one could also expect a reasonable level of catering at The Ivy, yet people are willing to relatively pay large sums to lap up low quality reheated food and say it’s good. Nobody obliges you to fly BA and an expectation of decent catering by BA on long haul Club has been totally unrealistic for many years.

  • nachoman says:

    What nonsense. I flew London – Haneda in Club in late June, so before the switch. Even then, the catering was a disaster. The meal was hardly filling and they ran out of snacks three hours into into the flight. No nuts, crisps, chocolates, nada, zilch. The in-flight manager apologised, saying that the club kitchen had been raided by some passengers stocking up on sandwiches and snacks. That did it for my wife. The gap between what their marketing promises and what they actually deliver has grown too wide — and at the prices they charge we can’t help but feel that they’ve pulled our leg and are misleading customers. We’ve learnt our lesson and take our business elsewhere.

    • Alex G says:

      I think the catering on the Japan flights had always been a disaster. Particularly on the daytime flights back to the UK. First meal served ASAP after take off. Second meal served 90 minutes before landing. So the cabin crew can do as little as possible for as long as possible, while the passengers literally go hungry.

      • Sharon says:

        I agree. Did Haneda a while back and will again in a couple of weeks. Plane has changed 3 times in as many weeks following the 787 debacle so been back and forth with seat selection between CS and old coffin. Food last time was rubbish and being female was passed over multiple times when drinks were being topped up to Male passengers. Going again in a couple of weeks on a 241 and have zero expectations that we will actually get a plane leave on time with comfy seats and an edible meal. I am not complaining given it is 241 so hopefully my expectations will be exceeded.

        • Londonsteve says:

          I don’t think using a 241 is relevant to the overall service offering. You’ve still paid (in part) for the second seat with a voucher, you met spending targets with a financial services provider and the inducement to do so was a voucher you ascribed a value to. It’s not like BA came along with a ‘buy one get another seat free’ promotion open to all. You’ve also paid considerable taxes and charges on the second seat, almost certainly in excess of what it would cost to buy a ticket in economy. Whether using a 241 or not, the expectations of on board service should be the same and everyone dissatisfied needs to hold their feet to the fire in order to make their feelings known. Ultimately, the most powerful form of protest will be to avoid BA. 241 vouchers can be used on Iberia offering far better value, vastly better food and (I never thought I’d be able to write this) better service, the main limiting factor is the narrower range of destinations on offer.

        • Londonsteve says:

          Considering that IB flies to Tokyo and the direct BA flight involves a very considerable detour to avoid Russian airspace, I see no reason not to fly via Madrid at half the cost for a 50% better experience. On such a long flight with a vast time zone difference (thus requiring requisite rest and acclimatisation on arrival) the addition time spent transiting in Madrid is largely meaningless versus the direct option to London.

      • Dave says:

        So is Japan in some weird spot where that’s the provision? Does a flight that’s 1/2/3 hours longer get different?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Haneda isn’t affected by these changes 🙂 but you’re probably bang on about the rest. Poor food. Empty club kitchens. empty promises.

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