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We have had a LOT of emails, article comments and forum posts in recent weeks from readers who are trying to juggle two frequent flyer accounts on the same booking.

It’s not easy, and to add to the complexity there are two totally opposite reasons why you may want to do it.

We’d like your input if you have been in this situation recently.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

Here are the two scenarios you could be in:

Scenario 1

You want to earn Avios in British Airways Executive Club whilst using another oneworld frequent flyer programme where you have status for lounge access, free seat selection etc.

Most likely to apply to: people who got Royal Jordanian elite status via the ongoing hotel status match and want free seat selection etc whilst still earning Avios.

Your problem: you need to have your non-BA frequent flyer number in your booking to get free seat selection, but need to change it over at some point to your BA number in order to earn Avios – whilst still trying to get lounge access, fast track security, use of business class check-in desks etc from your non-BA status card.

Scenario 2

You want to earn status tier points in another oneworld frequent flyer programme whilst using your existing British Airways Executive Club elite card for lounge access, free seat selection etc.

Most likely to apply to: current BA status holders who cannot retain their status from 1st April in British Airways Club and are moving to another oneworld frequent flyer scheme where it is easier to earn status (probably Iberia, Royal Jordanian, Malaysia)

Your problem: you need to have your BA frequent flyer number in your booking to get free seat selection via your current status but need to change it over to your non-BA number to earn status credit with your replacement programme – whilst still trying to get lounge access, fast track security, use of business class check-in desks etc on the back of your BA status.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

In theory this shouldn’t be a problem, but it is

When Amadeus (the back-end ticketing system used by most airlines) was designed, they DID think that this could be an issue.

Your BA flight ticket data contains two fields, which by default are filled with the same number which you added when booking or via Manage My Booking:

  • FQTV: the frequent flyer number you want to use to earn miles
  • FQTS: the frequent flyer number you want to use for claiming status benefits

The problem is that your chance of finding a check-in or call centre agent who knows about FQTV and FQTS, yet alone knows how to amend your data correctly, is low.

I think that Singapore Airlines is the only carrier which allows you to enter two frequent flyer numbers for bookings.

How have you got around this?

Whilst Scenario 2 will be the most common after 1st April, as many readers start trying to earn status in a different oneworld frequent flyer programme, there are currently a lot of readers in Scenario 1 thanks to the Royal Jordanian status match.

If you’re in Scenario 1:

For people in Scenario 1, I have been saying that – at least for short haul flights – you should forget about earning Avios. Put your Royal Jordanian number in your BA booking from the start and keep it there. It will save you a lot of trouble trying to swap numbers over, and the relatively small number of Avios you will forfeit isn’t worth worrying about. You will be earning Royal Jordanian miles instead which can be redeemed on BA.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

Of course, if you are on a long haul flight then you might want your Avios. At what point do you swap your frequent flyer number for the BA one? After check in? Whilst in the lounge? Could you use fast track security or priority boarding by showing your Royal Jordanian card on your phone whilst having the BA number on your boarding pass?

Let us know in the comments.

If you’re in Scenario 2:

This is a bit trickier. You should be able to get into a BA lounge by showing your BA Gold or Silver membership card on your phone, even if your ‘no status’ Iberia / Royal Jordanian / Malaysia etc number is in your booking.

Can you get away with this at fast track security though? Or when trying to get priority boarding? Do you keep your BA number in your account until the last minute and call BA to swap it from the lounge?

Again, let us know in the comments.

How to change the frequent flyer number in your booking

This is as good a place as any to cover this. Most airlines, including BA, disable the Amadeus functionality which allows you to change your frequent flyer number via Manage My Booking. One that doesn’t is Royal Air Maroc.

You can go on the Royal Air Maroc website and pull up a BA flight booking using the 6-character booking reference. One of the options allows you to change the frequent flyer number.

Thank you for your contributions

We look forward to hearing about your experiences of swapping frequent flyer numbers in the comments. We will run a fresh article next week summarising your feedback.

Comments (132)

  • Adam says:

    Seems hardly any scenario 2’s travelling economy rather than business.

  • Paul says:

    Reading all this it seems that (at least for Scenario 2), if you already have Gold or Silver with BA, it’s a lot of faff (and potential some risk with then moving down the Board Group order and/or the agent screwing up where your FF number goes) in trying to change your FF to Iberia in the Lounge…all while supposedly trying to have a nice experience before a flight. I am then unclear whether the Return leg is also affected (fast track security, lounge, priority boarding). I am Silver BA and while it would be a bit easier to retain that with Iberia, the ‘cost’ is hassle and some risk that I degrade the value from having Silver for the next year. And, I might even be able to retain Silver with BA…it will be tight but who knows.

    If you are Bronze or Blue you have fewer benefits to lose by ‘just’ crediting your flight to Iberia. So, feels like while Iberia’s new scheme is better for many BA FF’s, the cost of change is a pain unless you are Bronze or Blue (very little to ‘lose’ with a switch over).

    • Rob says:

      Arguably its one year of pain for future years of gain, since once you have Iberia status you will just stick with it.

  • J says:

    Having read the article I thought I would look at Royal Air Maroc, but it hasn’t been able to find any of the booking references I have for BA or AA bookings, so not sure if they’ve stopped offering the service for non-RAM flights

  • desh36000 says:

    Got this issue on QF flights, where the QF membership number seems embedded. Had the BA Silver number in there for awhile but now its saying we need to pay for seats – I assume as two different numbers are in the system, and the FQTS uses the QF number by default somehow. Anyone seen how to get around this on QF bookings?

  • Metty says:

    Just thought I’d report back on my experience earlier this week.

    Currently GGL with BA. Booked 6 return flights in Business on ba.com across two dates (cheaper that way) and the BA price match guarantee made them effectively between £70 and £140rtn each. Two weeks prior to travel, I changed my FF number from BA to Qatar on srilankan.com and checked on royalairmaroc.com.

    At check in time, I didn’t log in to my BA account, just checked in from ba.com in Incognito mode and printed my boarding passes.

    At T5, showed my physical Gold card to get in First wing and Concorde Room as I have lowest status with Qatar.

    All seat allocations made when I booked while logged in with BA FF number stuck after I changed the FF number to Qatar.

    On board, in order to access the free messaging I logged into BA app as my wife. At no stage during the day on the 6 flights or in the lounges did I log in to ba.com as myself and I stayed off the BA App.

    Today, Thursday, all 6 sectors from Monday correctly credited to Qatar.

    Maybe I was overly cautious but my experience of previous Tier Points runs on Finnair – when hoping to credit to BA – is partially responsible. Having been warned on Flyertalk that logging in to Finnair’s app (e.g. to access the free messaging) may result in overwriting of FF number with the AY one, I avoided doing so until we had a misconnect problem and logged on to the app in flight in order to go on Chat. The result was my BA FF number being overwritten and a lot of hassle to undo this. So reading on Flyertalk that logging on to the BA App may have a similar consequence, I avoided doing so.

    A couple of points to note: firstly that contrary to a post on flyertalk, flying the same sector twice on the same day didn’t require a manual points claim for one of them (I did LHR-NCL-LHR twice and LHR-GLA-LHR once). All sectors posted correctly to Qatar.

    BA didn’t try and collect seat ££ from me as my Qatar FF status would ordinarily require. Even when I had to do a free change on the day via Manage My Booking (without logging in) due to a delay. I only mention this as recently, booking my family on Avios AY seats on ba.com and allocating seats for free caused issues at checkin as they all had AY FF numbers ready for the free messaging on board and the check in folks at LHR T3 thought they should be coughing up for the ££ seats – the single window seats on the A350 – that I’d reserved for free using BA status.

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