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Bits: new Avios Toronto option with Finnair, new Hyatt promo, Play cuts US routes

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New in brief:

Finnair launches a new route to Toronto

Finnair, which is an Avios partner, is returning to Canada after an 11 year absence.

The airline will launch flights from Helsinki to Toronto next year. Services start on 4th May and will operate on Monday, Wednesday and Sunday until 29th August.

The flight times are decent if you are connecting from the UK.

The outbound leaves Helsinki at 4.50pm, landing in Canada at 6.35pm. The return leaves Toronto at 11.40pm, arriving in Helsinki at 2.45pm.

Whilst travelling via Helsinki may be inconvenient if you are based in London, it is a better Avios option for anyone based in Manchester, Edinburgh or Dublin which also have Finnair flights to Helsinki.

Finnair is using an A330-300 on the route. All Finnair aircraft now feature the unique ‘no recline’ business class seat which Rhys reviewed here on the A350.

Finnair guarantees to open up two business class seats per flight for Avios redemption.

Do NOT book via ba.com because surcharges are substantially higher. Whilst Toronto seats are not bookable at the time of writing, Helsinki to New York – booked at ba.com – is 125,000 Avios return + £795 in taxes and charges. Book the same flight on finnair.com and it is 125,000 Avios + £239 return.

Finnair business class seat

Hyatt launches a new promotion for its midscale brands

Whilst there is no overarching World of Hyatt promotion at the moment, Hyatt has launched an offer for its midscale Hyatt Place, Hyatt House and Hyatt Studios brands.

The offer runs until 7th September. You will earn:

  • 3,000 World of Hyatt points for three nights
  • plus an additional 5,000 World of Hyatt points for reaching five nights, for a total of 8,000 points
  • plus an additional 8,000 World of Hyatt points for reaching eight nights, for a total of 16,000 points

This is lucrative, given that these brands are generally low cost. Reward nights also count. If you hit exactly eight nights, you’d be averaging 2,000 bonus points per night which we’d value at £24.

Hyatt Place and Hyatt House just opened in Leeds (review to come) and until 30th June those properties come with an additional bonus of 500 points per night via Hyatt’s long running ‘new hotels’ incentive.

Our other UK Hyatt Place and Hyatt House reviews include:

You must register via this page of hyatt.com.

Play airline drops US routes

Iceland’s PLAY drops its US routes

PLAY, Iceland’s low cost carrier, is dropping its flights to the United States after the summer.

PLAY served three airports – the little known New York Stewart, Boston Logan and Baltimore. Its strategy involved flying price-sensitive travellers from Europe via Reykjavik.

Flights to Washington and Hamilton (Toronto) were dropped earlier this year.

Of the 10 aircraft operated by the airline, the plan is for six to be wet-leased to other carriers. This means that we may see them popping up at Heathrow or Gatwick if British Airways continues to use third party airlines in peak summer months.

PLAY will operate just four aircraft under its own brand going forward, focusing on selected European routes to/from Iceland.

The airline is now a shadow of its former self. The management team has made an offer to take the company private and delist it, which will put long suffering shareholders – who have lost virtually all of their money if they invested at flotation – out of their misery.

Comments (21)

  • Scott says:

    Possibly a stupid question, but if you fly AY from LHR-HEL, do you remain in three non-Schengen area for the Toronto flight and not have to go near passport control?

    What about flying in from say DUB which is CTA, for the UK at least?

    • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

      Neither the UK or the Republic of Ireland are members of Schengen.

    • Mzb says:

      When you land from Heathrow in Helsinki you are dropped off in the non schengen departure area and can board your onward non schengen flight.
      The return journey is different in my experience. When flying back from Asia you first go through transit security. I would imagine the same happens for north American flights?

      • riku says:

        Whether non schengen arrivals in HEL go through security before transfer depends on whether the departure country is considered “clean”. The UK, USA and Singapore are counted as clean but not other countries (eg if you arrive from Japan you will go through transfer security). I don’t know about Canada since it’s over 10 years since any planes arrived directly from there.
        “clean” has nothing to do with schengen or immigration, it’s about trusting the security of other airports.

        • EdP says:

          Getting quite off topic but I’ve always wondered about this. How do airports assess the quality of security of other airports? And why would you allow incoming flights from countries/airports where you think the security is subpar? Surely that implicitly means you think flights from those airports are carrying passengers who have not been properly screened and pose a hijack risk.

          • Rob says:

            Some airports impose secondary screening on passengers coming from certain airports, based on perceived risk.

          • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

            Governments decide.

            Which is why the UK considers everything other than UK domestics as ‘dirty’ whereas at for example AMS and HEL there is a list of flights of which some are ‘clean” and some ‘dirty’ depending on their origin.

            Of course this can be a logistical nightmare in needing to having gates where you can properly separate the two and send passengers into the right stream.

            But I don’t think your last sentence is quite correct. If a government thought security at another airport was as you suggest they wouldn’t allow those flights in at all.

          • John says:

            LHR T3 now allows some US arrivals to bypass security when connecting to T3 or T5 (non-CTA only). It is not guaranteed for any particular flight, but the aim is to expand this.

          • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

            @John – yes indeed but from my reading it involves following specific directions at the gate and then getting a bus to T5 after a BP check.

            Similar to when Little Red existed they had a similar system to meet those domestic flights at T2 then bus eligible passengers flying on VS&DL to T3 avoiding security.

            But there are still logistical issues in making sure only the right passengers use this system.

  • Vit says:

    Rob, what is it behind the difference in surcharge while booking AY directly on its website or via BA.

    Eastbound, I find it cheaper to book AY via BA. Westbound, I have not looked at but you mentioned in the article it is cheaper to book on AY.

    • riku says:

      If you book an avios reward flight via Finnair plus then the cancellation rules are also different to booking via BA, not just the surcharge.

    • Rob says:

      BA adds one and pockets it.

    • Alex G says:

      Always check both options.

      BA was cheaper when I flew LHR-HEL-ICN but AY was cheaper for NGO-HEL-LHR.

  • Matthew says:

    Looks like Play are ending the Stansted route too at the end of the summer schedule…

  • Alex G says:

    Would be nice if AY went to Calgary. Or if BA reinstated the route. Perhaps with the drop in traffic to the USA, we might see BA operate more flights to Canada?

  • Luke says:

    So there goes the route my student son took to America.

    But I thought demand for visiting the USA was not being affecting by the current…ahem…difficulties there?

  • Erico1875 says:

    Southwest are starting from USA to Iceland .
    Then onwards codeshare with Iceland air to Europe
    Play probably couldn’t compete with that

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