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Lloyds Bank in talks to buy Curve at a knockdown price – what went wrong?

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Sky News reported yesterday that Lloyds Banking Group is in talks to buy ‘digital wallet’ Curve for around £100 million to £120 million.

This would represent a discount on the £133 million raised during Curve’s Series C round in 2023, and is likely to lead to substantial losses for most investors.

Over £200 million of equity has been invested in the business since it launched.

Lloyds Bank in talks to buy Curve at knockdown valuation - what went wrong?

If you are a relatively new HfP reader (ie post pandemic) you may not have heard of Curve. Head for Points was heavily involved in its launch – I think there were six staff when I first met founder Shachar Bialick in 2016.

The main USP of the company at launch was that it issued you with a Mastercard which automatically recharged your purchases to an American Express card – or any other payment card stored in your electronic Curve wallet.

You could even withdraw cash from an ATM and have it recharged to your American Express card as a purchase!

Unsurprisingly American Express wasn’t keen on this and broke the arrangement within three months of the launch.

After this, Curve – frankly – was without a killer feature. It tried multiple ideas (Curve Rewards, Curve Fronted, Curve Flex – the latter a Klarna-style product) but nothing that would drive mass adoption.

Visa and Mastercard issuers began to turn against it. Curve had low FX fees so people could use a Curve Mastercard abroad and have the charge pop up – with no FX fees – on their usual Visa or Mastercard statement. This didn’t win it many friends.

Because Curve was a debit card during this period, you could also make pseudo-cash transactions which would appear on your linked Visa or Mastercard as a purchase. A lot of issuers didn’t like that either.

28th January 2019

The week of 28th January 2019, when I was travelling and trying to file HfP copy around other commitments, has gone down in HfP lore.

Lloyds Bank in talks to buy Curve at knockdown valuation - what went wrong?

On 28th January 2019, Curve announced a huge relaunch – and American Express was back as a partner! Suddenly, once again, anything you could fund with a debit card could be (re)charged to an Amex card as a purchase. Our relaunch article got 576 comments.

36 hours later, on 30th January, American Express withdrew. This HfP article got 788 comments. To put that in context, our readership in 2019 was only 55% of what we had in 2024. It was a big, big deal. I remember Shachar calling me in whatever hotel I was in that night for a chat.

This was effectively the end of Curve Card getting editorial coverage on HfP. It only reappeared in June 2020 when – in a fluke of luck – it had started to move its payment processing away from Wirecard (yes, the criminal enterprise that was Wirecard) just days before Wirecard was closed down.

In October 2021, Creation Financial Services – issuer of the IHG credit cards – closed down, with no notice, all IHG credit card accounts which had been linked to a Curve Card. It confirmed to us that we were right to stop recommending it.

Whilst it DOES still have some uses in the miles and points community – as the Curve discussion in our forum shows – it got too difficult for us to keep track of which underlying card issuers (Virgin Money, Barclaycard, NatWest etc) were penalising Curve transactions and which weren’t. There was also the risk that another issuer would ‘do a Creation’ and invoke a mass shutdown.

In the end, Curve never found the one killer feature that would drive mass adoption. It was a very, very niche player in a space which rewards – indeed requires – scale.

What does Lloyds Bank want from Curve?

The real question is where Lloyds Banking Group sees even a reported £100-£120 million of value.

Sky News believes that Lloyds is attracted by the idea of creating a smartphone wallet which can be used to bypass Apple Pay fees. Recent EU regulatory changes will force Apple to allow other apps to access the NFC functionality in your iPhone to process contactless payments.

Curve may finally have found a USP – albeit, it seems, after the money ran out. It is also a USP that can only be exploited by a card issuer like Lloyds, because it is the issuers that want to stop payments to Apple. Lloyds Bank customers are unlikely to be happy if they can no longer use their payment cards with Apple Pay and need to open a separate Lloyds app instead.

Lloyds is only likely to want the technology. I think it is unlikely that the Curve Card or even the brand will survive.

I like Curve founder Shachar and I give him credit for sticking with the project for a decade even when it was clear that it was going to struggle to get mass-market traction.

Depending on the liquidity preference the company had to give to raise equity towards the end – it is possible that some investors were guaranteed a 100% return irrespective of the sale price – he could walk away with virtually nothing for 10 years of work.

Comments (196)

  • Greg says:

    Fee Free Fx transactions, withdrawing cash overseas, earning a minimum 8000 avios per month for £17.99, 1% cashback from 12 selected retailers, the list goes on and on and long may the benefits continue

    • m says:

      How do you get 8000 adios for £17.99?

      • Gosia44 says:

        Easily. I also regularly get 8000+ avios a month on various underlying cards via curve. Do some research and be creative.

        • Erico1875 says:

          From what I see, Fronted only gives up to £3K fee free per month so at best 4500 Avios, so I’d love to know how to get 8000 also

          • Greg says:

            Add £1000 ATM per month takes it up to 6000 avios
            Cancel ALL of your direct debits and pay with the card utilities, council tax, phones, broadband, subscriptions, insurances(my health insurance was £300pm, my wife’s £400) and just keep going. 8000+ avios is as easy as falling off a log

          • Gosia44 says:

            Yes, fronted gives you just £3k a month but there are other ways to channel money via Curve to get Barclaycard points where you cannot pay with a credit card. As Greg mentioned, all sorts of subscriptions + school/nursery fees, dog daycare, bill payments, gift card top ups. It all adds up and does not require Fronted.

  • Rui N. says:

    For the paid version
    Cheap FX, with cashback outside the EU
    Also useful for SUBs, you can Go Back in Time for transactions in other cards and get it done much quicker
    And still some Fronted allowance to pay credit cards, HMRC, tax free childcare, top up ISAs, etc.

  • sturgeon says:

    Well let’s hope it doesn’t happen or it takes ages to go through. Not the same but also hoping nationwides acquisition of virgin also means their card goes in a long time so we can build up a points stash.

  • flyforfun says:

    Argh! I liked the fact that I could “protect” my real credit card numbers if I was buying from somewhere I didn’t have 100% confidence in.

    I also used it, along with my partner, to put down a “debit” card payment when buying a new car when the dealership would limit the credit card to £3000.

    Curve was also my first foray into the alternative investment market. Thankfully only small dosh, dipping my toenail in – that’s all. Just in case it turned out to be some sort of Apple stock – and it looks like it’s Apple that it’s taking on, but with not benefit to us.

    As an existing Lloyds card holder, I wonder what implications or complications this will have?

  • flyforfun says:

    Argh! I liked the fact that I could “protect” my real credit card numbers if I was buying from somewhere I didn’t have 100% confidence in.

    I also used it, along with my partner, to put down a “debit” card payment when buying a new car when the dealership would limit the credit card to £3000.

    Curve was also my first foray into the alternative investment market. Thankfully only small dosh, dipping my toenail in – that’s all. Just in case it turned out to be some sort of Apple stock – and it looks like it’s Apple that it’s taking on, but with not benefit to us.

    As an existing Lloyds card holder, I wonder what implications or complications this will have?

  • Jenkins says:

    I was an investor and used the red investor card for a few years, when amex cancelled their deal there went my amex points, i used a virgin cc to gain points that way but i soon realised i could just use my virgin cc without my curve card so im not even a customer anymore, i hope they get brought so i can get a return on investment

  • Richard Ellis says:

    “…Curve founder Shachar… could walk away with virtually nothing for 10 years of work…”

    As a company founder myself, it will be gutting if Shachar does a deal for £100m, but received no return on his own equity. However…

    1. The company accounts imply that he has received a low 6-figure salary for the last few years… This is clearly less than he may have had in a large financial service company, but it is decent salary, and it is the risk you take for starting something of your own.

    2. In the last accounts, the wage bill (exc Shachar) was £20,000,000 for 200 people. So, lots of well paid people.

    3. Have you seen the accounts? In the last reported year, they had revenue of £26m… and a loss of £36m. The previous year was a £67m loss. This business was burning cash. As mentioned in the article (and accounts) they have raised £200m to get to this stage.

    I am very sympathetic to Shachar. He had a great idea, but it’s clearly not sustainably worked for many years – some of it due to external factors and some of it due to dumb bad luck. If he manages an exit for the valuations being discussed, then it will be the best possible outcome.

  • Fester says:

    What a shame. There goes my monthly 4500 avois for £17.99 subscription.

    Better get on and pay my tax bill early before it ends

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