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    This is today’s chat thread.

    If you have specific questions about Avios, hotels or credit cards, please ask them in the appropriate forum and not here. This thread is a good place to post interesting deals you have spotted or your general thoughts on travel and all things miles and points. Thank you for contributing.

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    EU is discussing changes to EU261

    Dutch News

    Including increasing the timescale before compensation kicks in.

    One interesting fact is that nearly 218,000 flights departing from the EU, EEA and Britain were delayed by more than three hours or cancelled in 2024 — 1.5% of the total.

    And the numbers actually eligible for compensation would be lower once exemptions are taken into account.

    656 posts

    Wow. The measures being considered would make EC261 pretty useless, and would give the airlines an easy ride. Airlines need EC261 to force them to make every endeavour to minimise delays and cancellations.

    I do think EU/UK airlines are at a competitive disadvantage though, as they are liable for compensation on flights into the EU but foreign airlines are not. There needs to be parity here.

    I also think compensation should be capped at the ticket price.

    6,755 posts

    Although hitherto the Commission and politicians have been highly resistant to watering down EC261, given the economic weakness across Europe there is considerable pressure to reduce the regulatory burden imposed on EU businesses not suffered elsewhere and the c. €7bn annual cost of EC261 to EU airlines is one being examined. Airlines particularly object to be expected to pay for Article 9 costs when a third party (eg air traffic control or airport strike) is responsible for delays/cancellation. The absolute value of compensation fixed in 2004 looks absurdly high vs today’s lower ticket prices. Airlines feel many of the costs should be for insurers to bear, not airlines.

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    I am having a senior moment and brain freeze! Is it 1 am when the flights are released on BA at the moment or midnight. I think it’s 1 am but I need to secure flights tonight and didn’t want to set my alarm too early then have to wait an hour. Thanks.

    774 posts

    Midnight GMT, so yes 1AM with BST.

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