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  • spiceke 20 posts

    This is a long-shot, but I am sure I read this on HfP but either can’t find it or it was wishful thinking on my part.

    I will be looking for 6 (!) long haul CW avios seats.

    I have an old style voucher, a new style voucher, and Mrs S has a new style voucher.

    I know that I cannot combine the old and the new, so this limits me to 4 seats (either using the old style for me and the new style for Mrs S, or just the 2 new ones to increase chances of availability). Also, for me to get a second new style voucher will be virtually impossible as I will need to book just a month or so into my new annual cycle – therefore, unlikely to spend £10k in a month to activate a new voucher.

    Did I read on here, or imagine it, that using a new style voucher opens up additional availability over and above the 241, as long as you have a 241 i.e. the new voucher would give a 241 and also enable us to pick up an additional 2 seats from ‘I Class’, but paying the full avios amount for the ‘extra’ seats?

    In this way I would be paying Avios for:-
    2 seats via 241
    2 seat via 241 (possibly from I Class)
    2 seats using avios from I Class.

    Hope I have explained it clearly enough – I have looked for several hours via the search and can’t find anything, so I am wondering if I imagined this.

    The fall back position is obviously try to get 4 Avios seats using 241’s and then paying cash for the remaining 2 seats.

    Many thanks in advance

    Guernsey Globetrotter 608 posts

    There was a discussion around this I remembered and found from a few days back in this forum:
    https://www.headforpoints.com/forums/topic/using-old-and-new-style-companion-vouchers-on-same-booking/
    and it also references an article done by Rob from back when the change came in last year:
    https://www.headforpoints.com/2021/06/03/how-to-use-two-british-airways-american-express-241-companion-vouchers/
    You may find a bit more info here and within the links to the other HfP articles that analysed the changes at that time…
    Good luck!

    NorthernLass 8,204 posts

    Where are you trying to go? There are destinations which have 6 avios seats released daily so you might be better looking at one of these if possible. SeatSpy or RFF can help you look for these.

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    memesweeper 1,295 posts

    There appears to be a useful anomaly when using the new-style 241 voucher.

    If you book for 2, 3 or 4 people, and use the voucher for the first 2, the increased ‘I’ fare class appears to be available to all passengers. I’ve tested this only through searching, I’ve not tried to complete a booking, so this might be ghost availability, but it seems to work.

    spiceke 20 posts

    Where are you trying to go? There are destinations which have 6 avios seats released daily so you might be better looking at one of these if possible. SeatSpy or RFF can help you look for these.

    Looking for Orlando (MCO) very end of Oct 2023 for 2 weeks – to avoid the half term

    spiceke 20 posts

    Where are you trying to go? There are destinations which have 6 avios seats released daily so you might be better looking at one of these if possible. SeatSpy or RFF can help you look for these.

    Sorry – duplicate, but can’t seem to delete

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    spiceke 20 posts

    There appears to be a useful anomaly when using the new-style 241 voucher.

    If you book for 2, 3 or 4 people, and use the voucher for the first 2, the increased ‘I’ fare class appears to be available to all passengers. I’ve tested this only through searching, I’ve not tried to complete a booking, so this might be ghost availability, but it seems to work.

    Yes, this was exactly the thing I was thinking about.

    I just cannot find the post that it was discussed in.

    Fingers crossed this anomaly is still in place in 6 months time when I come to book.

    NorthernLass 8,204 posts

    @spiceke – just be aware that some schools’ autumn half terms go into the first week in November (and BA peak dates cover Oct 20th to Oct 31st inclusive next year).


    @memesweeper
    – were your 3rd and 4th pax children though? Not sure if this applies to the OP. If it does though, they could certainly look for availability for four with the new voucher then book for the remaining 2 with one of the other vouchers.

    memesweeper 1,295 posts



    @memesweeper
    – were your 3rd and 4th pax children though? Not sure if this applies to the OP. If it does though, they could certainly look for availability for four with the new voucher then book for the remaining 2 with one of the other vouchers.

    All adults in my searches.

    NorthernLass 8,204 posts

    That’s interesting – it was always my understanding that you could only book for more than 2 if these were children. I’ve spoken to CA CSA’s who weren’t aware that you could even have more than 2 on a 241 booking. I wonder if this is a feature of the new voucher?

    NorthernLass 8,204 posts

    Where are you trying to go? There are destinations which have 6 avios seats released daily so you might be better looking at one of these if possible. SeatSpy or RFF can help you look for these.

    Looking for Orlando (MCO) very end of Oct 2023 for 2 weeks – to avoid the half term

    I had a look at the school where my son is going to 6th form in September and the 2023 half term holiday is October 21st to November 5th inclusive.

    memesweeper 1,295 posts

    That’s interesting – it was always my understanding that you could only book for more than 2 if these were children. I’ve spoken to CA CSA’s who weren’t aware that you could even have more than 2 on a 241 booking. I wonder if this is a feature of the new voucher?

    It feels like an IT error. I’d not bank on it working unless/until I’d actually paid up and got my seats ticketed, which I haven’t done. But doing this properly (pulling seats from different inventories) might have been deemed “too hard” in the time available when the new voucher project was launched. Useful loophole for families. Shame the recent increase in TFCs means there’s a good chance I’ll never use my voucher long haul.

    Yuff 42 posts

    That’s interesting – it was always my understanding that you could only book for more than 2 if these were children. I’ve spoken to CA CSA’s who weren’t aware that you could even have more than 2 on a 241 booking. I wonder if this is a feature of the new voucher?

    It feels like an IT error. I’d not bank on it working unless/until I’d actually paid up and got my seats ticketed, which I haven’t done. But doing this properly (pulling seats from different inventories) might have been deemed “too hard” in the time available when the new voucher project was launched. Useful loophole for families. Shame the recent increase in TFCs means there’s a good chance I’ll never use my voucher long haul.

    Flew yesterday in J, using a new 241, and 3 of us were adults according to BA, the 4th person was a young adult.
    Not overly impressed with CW, last time we had club suite which was much better so much so our daughter thought it was First class compared to yesterday.
    Emirates and Etihad much better in J, shame that etihad haven’t got the 380 from London back up and running yet.

    spiceke 20 posts

    Many thanks for your replies.

    Yes, all adults (just kids at heart!) – we all loved Orlando for family holidays so I suggested going back for a family celebration (me graduating with an Mst – fingers crossed)- with the grown-up kids and their partners.

    Frustrating that I can’t use the 2 different vouchers, but at least this gives a route for getting 6 CW seats and ‘only’ using 4 seats worth of Avios (which is better than paying for 2 additional cash seats)

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