You can now search, but not book, Qatar redemptions on ba.com

Well, its progress of a sort, I suppose! Yesterday, Qatar Airways redemptions were loaded onto ba.com. This gives Avios collectors (and American Airlines members) a head start at making redemptions, ahead of Qatar’s official entry into the oneworld alliance at the end of the month.

For some reason, whilst you can search Qatar availability on ba.com, you cannot book it. You get an error message asking you to call your local BA service centre to complete the booking. You can, at least, use ba.com to find out what seats are available before you ring.

Qatar 787 business class seat

The key thing to remember when searching for Qatar redemptions is that they fly from lots of places, not just London! Manchester is the other UK departure point. Their interactive route map is here.

The current cities running the new B787 with the new business class pictured above are (ex-Europe) Copenhagen, London Heathrow, Frankfurt, Munich, Oslo, Stockholm and Zurich. If you can’t get a seat from London, you may want to try a redemption from one of the other cities. Non-European routes with 787′s are Bangalore, Delhi, Jeddah and Riyadh. Fly Qatar on other routes, including from Manchester, Paris or Brussels and you will get older equipment with older seats.

There are some good deals to be booked.

I did a random search last night. Fancy Christmas in Australia? Imagine you can’t get seats?

Qatar 2

There are 4 seats from Manchester to Perth in Business Class on December 8th, for example.

My gut feeling is that getting TO Doha will be a doddle if you are happy to start from anywhere in Europe. Focus on getting seats for the ‘Doha to Your Destination’ leg and then add on the ‘Europe to Doha’ bit afterwards. Happy hunting!

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Comments

  1. BA shows a lot of the seat avalability of QR but I believe this is fake or phantom seat, since for the same seat you cannot find in Qatar Qmiles itself.
    You can book some of ex. Africa departure of QR flights on BA.

    • Only 1 person on FT has commented so far, and they have successfully booked a redemption using a routing spotted online.

      No mention of anyone ringing and being told they can’t book (yet).

  2. Matt Vaughan says:

    Good to see, although destinations which are new to Oneworld seem not to be loaded yet (for example, Islamabad). Are these likely to be loaded when QR is fully integrated, do you think?

    • I reckon this is a ba.com issue, and that adding a new destination is trickier than adding flights to places already in the system.

  3. I cant seem to be able to look up flights with partner airlines, how do you do this?

  4. I have recently been searching for a seat in First on Qantas from London to Dubai and whilst I see availability, it shows the same error message (to call Exec Club) when you try and book or view taxes. I’m not sure why this is happening with some One World partners, but certainly has been the case for some months with QF. And QF’s First class is much more appealing than BA’s: A380; chauffeur drive at departure and arrival airports; and use of Emirates’ fantastic First Class lounge in DXB and the unique lounge to aircraft arrangements – no more dreaded wait at the gate lounge.

    • Agreed. That Qantas issue has been a pain ( although not as big a pain as the overnight flight to Dubai from London, which is stupid scheduling).

      • Oh I actually always take the BA overnight flight from DXB at 2am (but then I don’t have kids) – I have my 4pm check-out from Grosvenor House, have some dinner at the Marina then head out to the airport for drinks in the lounge before sleeping on the flight then shower and breakfast in the arrivals lounge and straight to work.

        So do we know why the QF flights can’t be booked on-line?

        • it has been like this since they started flying there in march or whenever

          • The QF thing is definitely temperamental rather than permanent. I’ve seen it throw that error for days on end, but also had it work. I booked SYD-MEL-LHR earlier this year, twice.

        • DeltaCharlie says:

          I follow the pretty much the exact same schedule….. Trying QF in PE next month as had used my 2 companion vouchers already this year. So it will be the CX gold status for lounges which will be a nice change from the useless BA DXB lounge.

          • The EK lounges at DXB will be a nice change for you indeed from the BA one (even with its updgade to Galleries status it’s still not great – just nicer chairs!). I may try PE with QF myself – again, a better offering than BA’s WT+ I think with meals more closely matching J.

            Also I HATE the check-in procedures for most airlines at DXB – having to wait until check-in opens just seems so outdated now, it felt like I was waiting at a bus station with people sat on luggage, the last time I made the mistate of arriving at the airport too early to check-in. In the EK terminal they let you check-in whenever (within reason probably) and go through to departures as at most airports.

          • DeltaCharlie says:

            Used the EK lounges before when flying with them, the lounge food at EK LHR is in my opinion the best i have found to date (Doe and Co i believe) also the business only floor of the DXB terminal also makes the whole process so easy.
            Agreed on the waiting for a desk to open nonsense, at midnight that can be so frustrating and the worst part of the trip without a doubt!!
            The attraction of PE on the 380 is the very small cabin upstairs at the back, behind J, hopefully should be a quiet night flight home.

  5. I booked a QR redemption using Avios yesterday.

    I did have to call eventually but, interestingly, when I selected itineraries including but not solely QR flights I could have booked online. I can therefore confirm that the award flights shown on ba.com do exist. Whether that’s true across the board I don’t know but the BA agent offered me several alternatives.

  6. Hard to make a direct comparison because it will no doubt be route specific but I reckon the charges were just over half what BA would charge for a similar itinerary.

    • Thanks.

      What’s the secret to finding QR availability at ba.com?

      Given the general non-availability of BA F and CW redemptions to Cape Town, I wanted to check QR to CPT or JNB but found BA availability only, i.e. zilch.

      There was plenty of availability to CPT with QR when I was researching my last Diamond Club redemptions (*), so I suspect there are indeed QR opportunities with Avios. Of course, I could call and ask, but I’d prefer to research first and then book.

      (*) I can’t remember whether the JNB-CPT was with SA.

  7. Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

    Shame they don’t fly to AKL. Would have been good to get another OW option there.

    • Lady London says:

      A staff member in AKL told me early last year that the issue is that the AKL airport isn’t building the bigger facilities needed for the A380 to load/unload. Would be great if AKL would built the facilities. Then SQ might actually put some decent planes on the route. can’t stand the old planes they get away with using and now flying other airlines when going into AKL when normally I would prefer SQ.

  8. Amy Rideout says:

    This may seem a bit of a stupid question, but, where can I find the miles needed for LHR to Perth using Qatar Airlines? Thanks in advance?

  9. I have been able to get to the payment page for a possible booking next August.

    It is just a pity that the carrier imposed charges levied by BA are so outrageous.

    SIN DPS on QR round trip in J is £358. Avios is 30000 plus £95 with the breakdown shown below. Not good value and I rather suspect BA get £77 for not doing much.
    *****************
    Passenger Service Charge – Singapore GBP 9.80
    Passenger Security Service Charge – Singapore GBP 4.00
    Aviation Tax – Singapore GBP3.00
    Total government, authority and airport charges*GBP 16.80
    More information
    British Airways fees and carrier charges Per adult
    Carrier imposed charge GBP 77.00
    Total British Airways fees and carrier charges GBP77.00
    More information
    Total taxes, fees and carrier charges per person GBP 93.80

    • Given how many flights QR have to London daily, I’m finding availability very poor – well into 2014!

    • Got AA miles? Whilst they were accidentally adding surcharges last week, in theory Qatar redemptions via AA should be surcharge-less.

  10. Thywillbedone says:

    Off topic but I have some upcoming Qatar flights (starting 1 November) which were paid for some time ago – I would like to earn BA Tierpoints rather than Qpoints – anyone know how I can change my frequent flyer number for Qatar to BAEC – tried the Qatar website to no avail. Thanks!

    • May be possible on the Finnair site after 1 November using their Manage My Booking feature, as you can change BA numbers that way.

      If not, just do it at the airport and ensure you get a new boarding pass printed.

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  12. Wow – Qatar Air are joining One World! Things are looking up for the alliance, especially as TAM are joining next year too – having defected from Star Alliance. Great news for me as my family all go to Brazil every 9-12mths using BA or TAM, so them being aligned means joint ticketing and points transfers etc.

    Seems One World will have latin america (LAN & TAM) and the gulf region (Qatar & Jordanian) sewed up.

  13. BKK-DOH-LHR is bookable on BA.com – both flights on QR. Disappointingly it seems BA is charging a significant amount to what would have otherwise been a cheap redemption as far as taxes are concerned:

    Government, authority and airport charges Per adult
    PZSE GBP 0.30
    Passenger Service Charge (Domestic) – Thailand
    GBP 13.90
    Total government, authority and airport charges*
    GBP 14.20
    British Airways fees and carrier charges Per adult
    Carrier imposed charge
    GBP 123.40
    Total British Airways fees and carrier charges
    GBP 123.40
    Total taxes, fees and carrier charges per person
    GBP 137.60

    BKK-KUL-LHR on MH only costs approximately £15 in taxes.

    • And some of the shorter two-class routes are only sold as Economy/First, no Business class option.

      • Wozza2404 says:

        This is likely going to be an AA situation. 3x Y miles for a short haul redemption in “F”, but 60TPs for a paid flight.

  14. Can you bump up a class or two by using Avios on Qatar?

    • Potentially. We won’t know until the oneworld integration is complete. You can, for example, use Avios to upgrade on American – I intend to write about this one day.

      • Excellent, fingers crossed then.

        I’ve booked a cash economy flight in Novemeber to MLE so would love to jump a few cabins.

        Is the upgrade rate universal – 25k per class I think?

  15. Just nabbed the last business seat on the flight I wanted FRA-DOH-BKK. Wooohooo!

  16. Does anyone know if you can use your BAEC number on Qatar flights currently to be credited with Avios?

    • Yes, that is now active, as of October 1st.

      • Thanks Raffles. Interesting the Reservations staff in Melbourne had no idea on this. I’ll try again at the check in desk tomorrow (fingers crossed). Any recommendations?

        • Qatar has a huge number of airline partners predating its oneworld entry, BMI and Virgin for two, so any vaguely competent agent should be able to enter a frequent flyer number.

  17. Dear Raffles,
    The announcement by Qatar Airways that “With the exception of Government fees and taxes, award tickets and upgrades on Qatar Airways will no longer be subject to any surcharges. This means reduced charges paid for an award ticket.” (Link: http://www.qatarairways.com/email/pvc/13/09/04/index.html) seems to me to be the single most important advantage to their inclusion in the OneWorld alliance, wouldn’t you agree?

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