Did BA agree to pay £1m every year to build a door in T5? – and why they are paying for another

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• Rob Al says:

  18 Apr18 April 07:51

  Well let’s take a guess. 5k gold and first passengers per day, let’s say 1.75M per year. Average “impulse” spend £30 per year, so perhaps £50M?

• David Passmore says:

  18 Apr18 April 08:15

  Many may suggest that the silly money paid by BA for a short cut to their lounges would be better spent on imnproving the lounges themselves! Poor food, shabby facilities, indifferent service and overcrowding are just a few of the problems that BA should really be looking at to improve their lounges..not an overpriced short cut!

  • Nick says:

    18 Apr18 April 08:50

    Way way too high. And even if using your numbers- you would multiply only by the margin on that £30 of sales (say £5).

    • Phillip says:

      19 Apr19 April 08:19

      I will disagree – not so much for the short cut but for actually providing a true fast track experience for their highest tier customers. I would turn that around and say Heathrow Airports Ltd shouldn’t be charging that amount in the first place, given how much passengers already pay for the “privilege” of using their facilities. For me, the biggest issue with lounges is the overcrowding, which has a knock on effect on the quality. BA is more likely to improve the lounge offering if it has to cater for less people as it would cost them less to do so than doing it for a bigger number. That aside, I still think BA lounges rate higher than other many main hub facilities offered, particularly in Europe and the US, and especially given the size of the airline itself.

• dac says:

  18 Apr18 April 08:59

  And yet the fact you have to go through the same awful ‘fast track’ security before hand makes the door pretty worthless versus the best airlines e.g. Thai business or first at BKK airport where there is private security and passport control.

  BA you’re spending money in the wrong place again…

  • Gavin says:

    18 Apr18 April 10:19

    Maybe the Concorde door will be largely redundant now but if this new development is a true “First fast track” then I’m pleased its finally going to happen as current situ is crap!
    No doubt it will be understaffed and slow as the current fast track which is neither fast nor pleasant. Equally I no longer use first check in as its too far – I bag drop in biz when I get off the hex and go thru south security

    • Hingeless says:

      18 Apr18 April 11:52

      I should imagine it will have to include F pax, imagine if you turned up and they refused to let you through on an F ticket!

• Simon says:

  18 Apr18 April 09:20

  My understanding (from a BA employee who I knew and happened to bump into during the T5 testing) was that this new door was the plan all along, but that BAA asked too much and BA walked away/compromised with what we have had up until now.

  It strikes me as too much of a coincidence that this is opening now at the same time as a non-BA lounge is opening – I wonder if a new fee was negotiated as part of allowing BAA to put in the Aspire lounge…

  • Steven says:

    18 Apr18 April 22:12

    BAA don’t need permission to place a lounge in their own ariport

• Howard says:

  18 Apr18 April 10:32

  Paul (sorry others to be off topic)

  I was rejected by email about 6 times. I wrote in stating that I was going to take this up with advertising standards. My basis was that I had complied with the offer on the website and that they were refusing me based on two reasons. The first the offer had closed and the second being the offer was never made in the first place as incredible as that seems.

  I eventually got someone to investigate and I had a screenshot from their website of the offer.

  Eventually they said sorry and gave me the card.

  So I applied for the MBNA card with the 25000 points offer. I got £20k credit. When the card came yesterday it only had the 5000 offer. I called today and was told the reason could be that my credit rating is not good enough and therefore the offer is reduced!! I said if my credit rating is not good hoe comes my limit is £20,000. No answer on that!!! I was then told to cancel my card and re apply. I said that’s bad advice as if I do that they may give me zero points!!!

  I got through to someone else and it’s being investigated. I will have an answer in 7 days.

  Howard

  • Justin says:

    18 Apr18 April 11:14

    I had a similar experience with Etihad credit card in December – I raised an internal complaint and it was enough to resolve the problem, get all bonus miles credited and receive a small gesture of goodwill (twice).

    • Hingeless says:

      19 Apr19 April 01:12

      How did you raise the complaint!

• Waribai says:

  18 Apr18 April 11:08

  Back on topic…slightly, I think the worst aspect of Terminal 5 especially with young kids is having to use the crowded shuttle trains to the sattelite gates! Coming back alone from Japan in C or F with JAL, my wife is driven to immigration in T3 but with BA is left to battle her way on to the shuttle train while also trying to manage a toddler and luggage!

• Dedicated First and Emerald security at LHR T5 - FlyerTalk Forums says:

  18 Apr18 April 16:02

  […] has reported today (https://headforpoints.com/2015/04…-build-a-door/) that BA and Heathrow Airport have come to an agreement. A dedicated security channel will be built […]

• Lady London says:

  18 Apr18 April 23:21

  About time too!

  The ridiculous walk round back to where you came from and past a tacky range of shops has always been so transparently arranged it’s made my blood boil. How dare Heathrow Airport patronise us like this. I might even have taken a wander in some of the shops on the way, if it hadn’t been for being so insultingly obviously forced to trek backwards past them like sheep as the only way of accessing the lounge.

  On principle I’ve always made sure that if I wanted to visit a branch of those shops I’d do it somewhere else instead. I’ve also stopped choosing a couple of airports I used to fly to as when passengers have suddenly found the only route to their gate was re-routed through the middle of a chaotic crowded duty free shop.

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