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The Avios changes are live – post your comments and observations here

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The major changes to the Avios scheme went live at midnight last night.

I didn’t do an article today because I want to see how the actual changes compare to what we believed British Airways was planning, given that some of what they announced was vague or open to interpretation.

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Please post any comments or observations below. I will put together an article tomorrow.

Here are a couple of quick ones that I saw on a brief trot through the site:

Peak and off-peak dates for BA redemptions are now available up to April 2016Go here and click ‘Working Out The Cost’

This comment which appears all over the site makes no sense: “You will not be able to benefit from off-peak prices if you fly with two or more oneworld partners, or British Airways plus two or more oneworld partners”.  The plan – which, looking at the pricing, has been carried through – is that peak pricing applies if you fly with ONE oneworld partner, as long as it isn’t BA.

More feedback welcome.

How to earn Avios points from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (October 2021)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

There are two official British Airways American Express cards. Both have increased sign-up bonuses until 2nd November 2021:

British Airways BA Amex American Express card

British Airways American Express

10,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and an Economy 241 voucher for spending ….. Read our full review

British Airways BA Premium Plus American Express Amex credit card

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

40,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points, such as:

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

60,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

The 30,000 points bonus on Amex Gold runs to 9th November 2021. The 60,000 points bonus on The Platinum Card runs to 2nd November 2021.

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital On Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card:

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies. This card has a limited time offer of 60,000 Avios when you sign up:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

60,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

(Want to earn more Avios?  Click here to visit our home page for our latest articles on earning and spending your Avios points and click here to see how to earn more Avios this month from offers and promotions.)

Comments (112)

  • Polly says:

    Tried to use UuA late last night and this morning, was directed to the call centre. Good luck with that! But I did notice no change in no of avios needed for the upgrade from Premium Y to J. Just can’t make the upgrade on line yet. The CX avios ended for HKG to Bali were the same too, we will see how this develops. Def worth going for a 241 every year, and look out for J sales otherwise. That’s our plan

  • Calum says:

    UuA W->J that was 30k is now 72k.
    As a leisure traveller I will be remaining loyal to BA but this probably just means I will make fewer discretionary trips with them – better for my bank balance!

  • Simon says:

    After a lot of stick of late, feel like I should stick up for BA Club World flights we had last week… London to JFK return, sleeper service on way back…. Both flights landed 40 minutes earlier than scheduled… Food outbound was very good, and service was charming (bar one grumpy guy). Pre flight food on home leg was very good in the JFK lounge, and service on the flight again very slick and friendly….. So, overall, two thumbs up on this occasion….

    • polly says:

      I agree..we had the v same experience on that route in January. …as we said before certain routes must maintain higher standards and NYC is one of those .

      • James67 says:

        Me too, although dated and worn I really quite like the feeling of privacy in BA CW when travelling alone which is most of the time. I also think BA cabin crew are generally great, they usually get the balance of space and service, formality and informality just about perfect to my tastes. I think we oftentimes colour BA by our LHR experience when we should remember it’s the airport at fault, not the airline. However, I cannot forgive them the devaluation of UuA and RFS from the regions.

    • Macca says:

      It might have been good compared to BA economy, but have you ever flown business with one of the Middle Eastern carriers? It makes BA Club World feel like economy!

    • Martin says:

      I’m doing the CWLCY route Thursday and returning to LHR on the Mon sleeper service so I’m glad to hear pre flight eating was decent.

  • uk_jm says:

    The new Tier points/Avios calc on BA seems to think there is no Business class between any London airport and Dublin. Not had time yet to check any other anomaly

    • Kathy H says:

      I noticed that too – thought it was just me being dense 🙂

      • James67 says:

        Yes, both EK some time ago and very recently QR. What you have to remember was that EK were still flying cradle and slopey seats long after BA introduced full flat CW. True that their current seats are larger and more comfortable, have bigger and more comprehensive IFE, and cabins have a nicer more spacious ambiance. But, if you fit a 20 inch seat does an extrabinch really make much difference, if you sleep most of the way does it matter if there is 6 or 8 seats across, does twice as many movies make any difference if you have seen all the ones worth watching already, in theses days of mobile gadgets is IFE even necessary? When it comes to food between the said airlines I don’t consider there to be a marked difference, when it comes to service I prefer BA, when it comes to privacy I still prefer BA too. All other carriers have been playing catch up and surpassing BA for a decade. In a couple of years BA will have their new a350s and hopefully new CW based around recent patents which will leave other J seats lagging again. The only question is whether BA will see that through and set the bar once more or if they will continue their current penny pinching and become the archtects of their own destruction.

  • Callum says:

    Unless I’m reading it wrong that last bit makes perfect sense to me. Book a flight on BA connecting to AA and the BA segment will be priced as off peak if applicable. Book AA, US and BA and even if the BA segment is off peak you won’t be charged the cheaper price.

    Though that was pretty much the case before anyway with the weird multi-partner table.

    • Jason says:

      But if you book a flight with 1, one world partner, it infers you should benefit from off peak pricing, although it stated back in January all partner awards are priced at peak prices!
      Unfortunately if I try to look at Qatar pricing it says there is a problem and contact customer services.
      I have to call them later this week to book an inbound flight so I’ll ask then what the price would be.

      • Callum says:

        Those two facts aren’t mutually exclusive. While I’m not certain how it actually works, you can theoretically both benefit from off peak pricing and fly on a partner flight that doesn’t qualify. E.g. LHR-JFK on BA at off peak pricing connecting to JFK-MIA on AA at standard pricing.

  • trickster says:

    Sad to see the demise of the RFS free domestic add-on. We’ve done a few of these in the past, and as a non-status passenger find them a nice way to do a city break.

    Only decided to book one trip MAN-LHR-MUC for next spring at the old rates a couple of nights ago. Was toying with other bookings, but decided not to.

    At least the domestic add-on remains free for long haul, even if the rates have gone up.

    • Andy says:

      I get the feeling a lot more people from the North West will be taking trips to Billund this year! I’m looking at that flight then staying in Aarhus for a long weekend, looks like a nice city.

      • trickster says:

        Just calculated the difference and it’s not as bad as I thought.

        If travelling in peak times, for the 3 of us a CE city break to MUC for exmaple would cost 70,500 Avios and £255 – up from 54,000 and £150.

        Compared to the cost of direct flights at peak times (assuming not booked well in advance at decent prices); coupled with lounge access all the way through, and food/drink on the plane, It’s still palatable and not out of the question.

        If these changes mean more availability and more likelihood to get the flights that work, we may still do breaks like these.

  • guesswho2000 says:

    Are tier points in discount Y on partners affected? The TP calc would suggest not? A quick check LHR-SYD on BA=30TPs, on QF=60TPs?

  • Andy says:

    Quick question – booked LHR-LAS last night outbound (return not available) applying Amex 241. Turn flight now available and on phone waiting to book this – will the return be priced at new Avios rate (outbound booked last night at old rate) or will old rate apply??!

    • Jason says:

      Should be at old rates. Did you not mention that when booking your outbound?

      • Andy says:

        Booked online rather than with an agent.

        • VP says:

          I asked this yesterday. I was told that it should be at old rate. Have you told the agent you will be booking inbound when available ? as they would then have left a note on your booking about it.

          • VP says:

            Sorry saw now that you mentioned you booked online. In that case, I am now aware as I was told it had to be booked through an agent and one had to specify that you are booking in bound later but all agents have varying degree of knowledge so I do hope you are able to book at old rates.

          • Andy says:

            Many thanks – agent has just confirmed that it will definitely be at old rate. Hope this info helps anyone in a similar situation.

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