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Why not joining Iberia Plus cost a reader £417 – and could cost you too

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Most Head for Points readers will have an avios.com account and a British Airways Executive Club account.  You really don’t have much choice, since some Avios offers (such as the generous insurance promotion currently being run by Alan Boswell) can only be credited to avios.com accounts.

Having two accounts is fine.  It isn’t much extra admin (and you should be using Award Wallet to keep track of your points balances anyway) and you can move Avios back and forth, for free, instantly, as many times as you like, using the ‘Combine My Avios’ tool on either ba.com or avios.com.

Not all HfP readers, however, will have an Iberia Plus account.

This is a mistake.

There are three reasons why:

You cannot open an Iberia Plus account at your leisure.  Well, you can, but you cannot use it.  An Iberia Plus account must be 90 days old and must have ‘earned’ 1 Avios point before you can transfer Avios points in and out.  The 1 point can come from an Amex Membership Rewards transfer, crediting a BA or oneworld flight, crediting a hotel stay etc.

Taxes and charges on Iberia redemptions are substantially lower when booked via Iberia Plus compared to British Airways Executive Club because the Iberia website does not add the same level of fuel surcharges

Availability for Iberia redemptions is better when booked via Iberia Plus compared to British Airways Executive Club

Why did a HfP reader just lose £417 because of this?

A reader contacted me this week because he and his partner had decided to visit Colombia later this year.  Whilst British Airways does not fly this route, Iberia does have a direct flight to Bogota from Madrid.

Booked via ba.com, two business class tickets on the Iberia flight cost 210,000 Avios plus £760 in taxes and charges.

Booked via iberia.com, exactly the same flights cost 210,000 Avios plus $434 (£343)

That is a saving of £417 if the reader books via iberia.com.

Except ….. he can’t.

He had never got around to opening an Iberia Plus account.  If he opens one now, he still won’t be able to transfer his Avios points across from BA for 90 days, which is September.  As he is hoping to fly in November, the chance of the seats still being available is not great.

The only advice I could give him was this:

Bite the bullet and book now via ba.com, paying the £760

Open an Iberia Plus account and work out a way of earning 1 Avios point

In 90 days, check to see if there are still business class Avios seats showing on your dates.  If there are – which is not hugely likely – he can cancel for a £70 charge and rebook via iberia.com

So, here is your task for the day.  If you don’t have an Iberia Plus account, nip over to iberia.com and open one.  At some point, work out a way of getting one Avios point into it.  By mid September, your account will be able to make transfers back and forth and you will be perfectly placed if you ever find yourself in a similar position to our reader.

Whilst Bogota may not be on your bucket list, there are plenty of other Iberia routes not served by BA.  And, on routes which both airlines serve, you can make huge savings flying Iberia. Madrid to New York in Business, for example, is just 68,000 Avios return off peak plus around £150 of taxes.

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Comments (116)

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  • Andy S says:
    25 Jun25 June 15:59

    Sorry I’ve read through the comments but still can’t see how to gain just a few points. I don’t have 1000MR yet and even if I did I wouldn’t want to blow them all on iberia so what other options are there? take a flight I guess? anything less drastic? I’ve done TP runs in the past but that was to get status, not just some measley points to activate an account!

    • Leo says:
      25 Jun25 June 16:23

      Well you could transfer to Iberia+ and then eventually you’ll be able to transfer them to Avios or BAEC…..

    • John says:
      25 Jun25 June 16:25

      After 90 days they can be sent to BA so you aren’t blowing them on IB. If you don’t want avios then why bother getting an IB account?

      • the real harry1 says:
        25 Jun25 June 17:37

        yep you can send your 1000 MR points to IB then switch them back to BAEC or avios.com as often as you like

        nobody has mentioned Accorhotels – earn some points there, not necessarily by staying in a hotel, then send those points to IB

        • the real harry1 says:
          25 Jun25 June 18:52

          use the wee hfp trick to send over any number of points without needing minimum 2000

          • Andy S says:
            25 Jun25 June 20:33

            thanks i do have some acor points (gathered from the happy mondays offers) so i’ll search for the trick you mention, sounds ideal.

          • Andy S says:
            25 Jun25 June 20:54

            Well that seems to have worked thanks with no dodgy russian in sight! my 1400 accor points are winging their way across to IB+ – so after up to 60 days plus 90 days they will be come transferrable to BA or avios.com !

          • the real harry1 says:
            25 Jun25 June 21:22

            brilliant, glad to see it working

          • Alex W says:
            25 Jun25 June 22:18

            I am amazed it only took you 10 mins to get that trick working! Took months for me last time…

      • Andy S says:
        25 Jun25 June 20:30

        because rob says it’s a good idea! 😉
        I have a clubcard but hardly shop in tesco. i would expect most of us on this site would have point accounts they don’t actually *need* !

        thanks to others in this sub-thread for helpful comments

      • BigDave says:
        26 Jun26 June 14:28

        try an avis car rental credited to iberia…. ?

    • BigDave says:
      26 Jun26 June 14:29

      no, ‘agotado’ means they ran out and are offering no more

  • Kier says:
    25 Jun25 June 18:56

    I am trying to transfer points to Iberia at the moment and I get an error when I try to Log in to Iberia on the “combine my avios” section of the BA website. It says that my details dont match. However I am able to use the same details to log in directly to the Iberia website. Has this happened anybody else?

    • the real harry1 says:
      25 Jun25 June 19:21

      try going to Iberia and pulling the points across from BA

      • Genghis says:
        25 Jun25 June 19:51

        Or onto avios.com using the pull and push method?

      • Kier says:
        25 Jun25 June 20:37

        I figured it out. The email address in the two accounts were different. I changed the email address in Iberia to match BA and now it works.

        • Kier says:
          25 Jun25 June 21:02

          I now have another question! Am I able to transfer everything in my Family account in BA to my Iberia account? I have a specific redemption in mind but its only possible if I take all the avios in the family account?

          • Genghis says:
            25 Jun25 June 21:08

            IIRC you can only transfer your individual balance. A work around might be to create a household avios.com account, break that up then all the avios go to you? Not done it myself though.

          • Alan says:
            25 Jun25 June 21:10

            No you can only transfer your own points. Workaround would be to form Avios.com HHA then break it up with 100% going to you, but would take a week or so to sort I’d imagine…

        • RussellH says:
          26 Jun26 June 15:54

          Interesting.

          I have never had any problem sending avios from Iberia to BAEC and I use different e-mail addresses for each and every airline (ib@mydomain for Iberia and ba@mydomain for BAEC). It makes filtering e-mails into the right place so much simpler.

  • Jonathan says:
    25 Jun25 June 19:08

    OT: Has anyone got any experience of the HSBC Premier travel perks (and specifically whether they view these as having any value?):

    1. Expedia Savings. Receive a 10% discount on selected hotels when booked through the HSBC Premier Card
    2. Agoda Discount. 10% discount on over 180,000 hotels booked with your HSBC Premier Credit Card.

    Thanks

    • Rob says:
      25 Jun25 June 19:55

      As they are unlikely to stack with any other discount code or promotion, I would value them at nil – especially as bookings via Expedia and Agoda won’t earn you hotel loyalty points and you won’t get any status benefits. If you really do want to book via a third party site, use hotels.com due to the very generous Hotels.com Rewards programme.

    • Rob says:
      26 Jun26 June 07:16

      I use my HSBC prem at Expedia but using the click-through from avios.com. The standard rate is 6 per £ but there was a double offer earlier in the year at 12 for £ spend. Needed to book some hotels for Japan. Think got around 80k avios.

  • Clarence says:
    25 Jun25 June 21:34

    Sorry but O/T we made a 241 booking 4 months ago but will now have to cancel it. Can someone tell me What it will cost and do we get the Avios returned

    • Genghis says:
      25 Jun25 June 21:38

      Cancellation cost is 2 x £35 = £70. Avios, 241 and total taxes and charges – £70 refunded

      • Clarence says:
        25 Jun25 June 21:40

        Thanks Genghis. At least we still have the Avios to make another booking

        • JamesB says:
          25 Jun25 June 21:58

          Just to add, if your reservation is far out and you do not require those refunded avios in the near future you could just leave booking in place for a while in the hope a schedule change allows you to cancel free of charge. I’m doing exacgly that on a redemltion involving the 18XX connection from LHR-EDI because it almost always gets the chop in winter. This strategy might also help if you paid the flight in connection with hitting a credit card spend target because you might not want the refund going back onto a card and messing up your bonus.

          • Joe says:
            25 Jun25 June 22:13

            How much of an actual schedule change allows cancellation; 10 mins / 30mins? (any other benefits if you don’t want to cancel?)

            PS I happen to be returning on a BA long haul connecting18:XX from LHR to EDI later this winter, so am curious to understand all my options – thanks

            (and why do they sell this flight if as you say it gets axed?)

          • Joe says:
            25 Jun25 June 22:14

            Oh…and when is this schedule change likely to occur? Thanks!

          • Alex W says:
            25 Jun25 June 22:23

            That got to be PhD level points knowledge! Well done Sir!

          • Joe says:
            25 Jun25 June 22:44

            Eh….no Alex. I’m assuming BA undertake schedule changes at (relatively) fixed intervals, e.g. summer/winter scheduling windows.

          • JamesB says:
            25 Jun25 June 23:01

            @Joe, it doesn’t get rescheduled it gets cancelled leaving a big hole in evening services from around half five until around nine IIRC. I don’t think it happened last winter but I got caught out with it the two previous winters. It might have been down to lack of competition last winter with the demise of Virgin Little Red. This winter they will have competion again but from much smaller flybe aircraft so who knows. I might be barking up the wrong tree here, perhaps they just wanted the early evening slot for something more lucrative. There seems to be no hard and fast rules about schedule changes and cancellations, 20 minutes is unlikely to do it but 30 minutes on last flight of the day, you have a train to catch etc, make your case and try your luck. I believe BA knowingly sell the 18XX LHR-EDI flight in tbe full knowledge they are likely to cancel it in winter, it’s very frustrating, nothing worse than coming off a 12h+ flight and waiting 3h at LHR for another 1h flight.

  • JamesB says:
    25 Jun25 June 21:41

    Thanks for the timely reminder Rob, I’ve been procrastinating on this for years! Just signed up without a hitch and old accor business also went smoothly so far. I will report back tomorrow if my accor account zeroes out, and sometime later with an OT if the transfer was successfully completed.

    • JamesB says:
      26 Jun26 June 07:47

      Accor account has zeroed and I received an email from them confirming points transfer request was confirmed. As yet points have not arrived at IB+.

  • Mummy55 says:
    26 Jun26 June 07:45

    You can collect points using Iberia plus card at certain petrol stations in Spain. If your not going there on holiday you could always ask someone you know who is,to help you get the 1 point to activate your account.

  • Paul says:
    27 Jun27 June 21:25

    i read this article on Saturday moments after making an avios booking with iberia. however i just couldn’t for the life of me work out how to book with avios on the iberia app… and so for ease of convenience i went via the ba app. turns out if you fly short haul in europe then it is cheaper to book via than ba than iberia for an iberia flight

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