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When did BA hike the taxes on long-haul US economy redemptions?

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18 months ago I wrote an article which tried to debunk the myth that long-haul Avios redemptions in economy / World Traveller are always a bad deal.

I compared the cash and Avios pricing for flights in August, five months ahead.  Yes, there were some dud deals in there, but there were also some good ones.  You were getting 1.37p per Avios to Las Vegas, 1.28p per Avios to Hong Kong and 0.92p per Avios to San Francisco.  I would be very happy with any of these.

I was never going to be able to recreate those numbers.  When I last did this analysis, in 2016, half of August was classed as off-peak for Avios redemptions.  This is no longer the case.  Whilst prices surge in August on holiday routes, you are now committed to paying peak rate Avios.  Even without a tax rise, economy redemptions would never be as good value.

I decided to rework the exercise this week.  What I found surprised me.

British Airways has aggressively hiked the charges on World Traveller Avios redemptions to the United States over the last 18 months.  US destinations have seen a whopping £70 rise in ‘taxes and charges’.

Other destinations have also seen increases but not by as much – usually £20 – £30 return.

Some of this increase will be linked to the fall in the value of Sterling, of course, but not all of it.  Redemptions to Barbados, where the currency is pegged to the US$, have hardly gone up at all.

This is at a time when headline fares have actually come down.  Put these two factors together and long-haul economy Avios redemptions again look like a complete disaster.

Short-haul economy BA redemptions in Euro Traveller remain a good deal thanks to Reward Flight Saver.  By capping taxes on European flights at £35 in Economy / Euro Traveller, you will usually be getting around 1p per Avios of value.  That’s OK.

Here is a sample of British Airways pricing from their Low Fare Finder tool.

These are the CHEAPEST economy return tickets available during June 2018 at the present time.  Remember that these flights may be at inconvenient times or inconvenient days of the week.  I compare the cash cost to the ‘Avios plus taxes and charges’ cost.

New York – £389 or 26,000 Avios + £370

Miami – £461 or 32,500 Avios + £370

Las Vegas – £908 or 32,500 Avios + £395

San Francisco – £592 or 32,500 Avios + £396

Barbados – £508 or 32,500 Avios + £278

Mumbai – £492 or 32,500 Avios + £318

Hong Kong – £507 or 39,000 Avios + £340

Singapore – £618 or 45,500 Avios + £347

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The ‘pence per Avios’ score comes out like this:

New York – 0.07p!

Miami – 0.28p

Las Vegas – 1.58p (but the cash price seems oddly high compared to SanFran below)

San Francisco – 0.60p

Barbados – 0.71p

Mumbai – 0.53p

Hong Kong – 0.43p

Singapore – 0.60p

These results are all very, very poor.  Las Vegas is the only possible exception but a cash price of over £900 for June 2018 seems weirdly high and I would expect it to come down.  I do say consistently on Head for Points that I value my Avios at a very conservative 0.75p but even at this level there is no point in redeeming for any of the routes above.

Part of the reason why these deals are now a lot worse is due to the increase in taxes.  This is how the ‘taxes and charges’ compare with quotes obtained in March 2016:

New York – was £301, now £370

Miami – was £301, now £370

Las Vegas – was £327, now £395

San Francisco – was £327, now £396

Barbados – was £271, now £278

Mumbai – was £297, now £318

Hong Kong – was £314, now £340

Singapore – was £320, now £347

For completeness, I should remind you that there are two caveats to this analysis.  First, the prices I quote above are the cheapest possible flights BA has during June 2018.  With Avios you might get a better timed flight that would cost more for cash than the prices I show.

Secondly, Avios tickets can be cancelled for a £35 fee with the Avios and taxes refunded.  There are scenarios – I have been in them myself – where you may accept getting a poor deal for your Avios because you want the flexibility to cancel or change your flight for some reason.

In general, however, long-haul World Traveller flights have again become very poor value for money.  At least Head for Points readers know this and will avoid them.  The bigger problem is the bad image that this gives to newcomers to the Avios programme, because the first thing they are likely to price up is a long-haul economy flight.


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Comments (116)

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  • Kevin says:

    With the exception of the flexibility offered, it’s clear that you would be better paying cash and using your avios to reduce the cost. You would still earn avios and TPs unlike on a straight redemption.

  • Zed says:

    The taxes haven’t changed…. Only the charges

  • MWood says:

    Surely ‘taxes’ haven’t changed at all? These are BA add on fees aren’t they? And if they are shouldn’t we call them out as being that?

  • Adam says:

    Might be worth noting that (unless you’re using an Amex 241) you would be far better off booking Hong Kong as two one ways as the taxes are less for a 1 way originating in HK.

    Lhr-hkg is £231
    Hkg-lhr is £31

    Total of £262 saving around £80

  • John G says:

    I would say it is because fuel prices have risen but of course the BA carrier imposed surcharge is nothing to do with fuel (or that is what they said when fuel prices were falling)!

  • Wally1976 says:

    Whilst I agree with the gyst of the article I believe there is still value on some routes and dates. Eg I just priced up LGW to MCO in August, 11th-23rd, 50k Avios + £341.70 Vs cash price of £921. That’s 1.16p per Avios. Admittedly you can get cheaper flights on slightly different dates eg with Norwegian. I accumulate my Avios at an average cost of around 0.1p each through credit card sign ups etc so for me this is well worth it.

    • Anna says:

      Agreed – if you’re stuck with having to travel during the school holidays, even peak pricing of long haul redemptions can offer good savings. An economy ticket to the US or Caribbean can reach £1000 (every time there’s a clamp down on parents taking children out of school in term time the travel companies hike the prices for school holiday travel even further), so 40k/50k avios plus £300-£400 in fees still represents a decent saving.

      • Anna says:

        QED, we’ve started taking our main summer holiday in the US and/or Caribbean as it now costs roughly the same as 2 weeks in France or Spain!

        • Ben says:

          Can’t fault your decision on economic grounds … but it does seem reckless from a co2 emissions point of view.

        • Lumma says:

          How does it increase the CO2 emissions? Surely avios redemptions are simply using empty seats on a plane that was flying there anyway?

        • the real harry1 says:

          @Ben you might as well try & say all leisure travel by plane, car or ship is unnecessarily harmful to the environment – you won’t get very far on these boards (or indeed with 99.9% of the general public)

          freedom to roam is one of our greatest freedoms & one of the greatest achievements of civilisation – CO2 emissions being a temporary unavoidable by-product to which we’ll find the solution in a generation or so

        • Crafty says:

          TRH1 – I don’t want to be rude, but that attitude is why the human race is in serious trouble within generations.

        • the real harry1 says:

          @Crafty – it’s a world population problem and you can’t blame the Brits or indeed Europe – except for letting it happen in the first place & doubtful if even with hindsight we could feasibly/ reasonably have kept world population below (say) 4 billion in any case

          1350 – 370 million
          1804 – 1 billion
          1927 – 2 billion
          1960 – 3 billion
          1970 – 4 billion
          1987 – 5 billion
          1999 – 6 billion
          2011 – 7 billion
          2024 – 8 billion projected

          that’s the real issue that nobody talks about

          the upside being: some of these ‘because we are too many’ [geddit?!!!] brains will devise ways to overcome problems such as CO2 emmisions

        • Lady London says:

          We could always ask India to reduce the number of cows. Apparently they are one of the biggest producers of carbon monoxide on the planet. Oh, wait… cows are sacred in India 🙂

        • Drav says:

          @lady london

          i think you will find humans create for co2 than cows

        • callum says:

          The real harry – While it’s convenient to pretend you don’t matter to CO2 emissions, that’s utter rubbish. You can use the exact same argument to say no-one should bother voting…

        • the real harry1 says:

          Callum – of course I matter to CO2 emissions – I’m just saying it’ll be solved not too long after I’m dead (age now about 55)

          You’re [probably] too young to know but living in a 4 billion world was a whole lot better than living in an 8 billion world

          even the Western proposals to refuse to allow new 100% petrol or diesel vehicles by 2040 will have massive benefits – I think it’ll get taken up by the whole world

          probably get moved forward & applied retrospectively with some compo, ie no 100% petrol or diesl vehicles on the road by 2030

        • the real harry1 says:

          1000 Avios (from Flying Luggage) for the first person to identify the ‘because we are too many’ reference 🙂

      • Anna says:

        Nope – you could fly every week and not cause as much damage to the environment as having 1 extra child does. We’ve done our bit by sticking at one!

      • callum says:

        The real harry – Perhaps this isn’t the place for a climate change debate, but I’ll just point out that I think your optimism is pretty dangerous (many people share the “someone will fix it later” attitude, which reduces the urgency to fix it now) and not really based on reality. I’ll also personally guarantee that every car on the road in the West in 13 years will NOT be at least a hybrid. I’d even extend that to say the majority won’t be.

      • Daniel says:

        TRH1 –
        Little Father Time from the last Robert Hardy novel “Jude the Obscure”

    • TripRep says:

      Wally – feel for you, £1k to Florida in Economy is crazy. I had a look at Virgin for your dates, the cash price for Economy was £200 more than BA with no redemption seats available.

      We normally go for 2 weeks in late Nov or late Feb.

      Virgin Premium Economy for approx £390 + 25000 Miles using Black Amex upgrade vouchers

  • Nick M says:

    The Vegas anomaly could be due to the World Series of Poker?

    • Jake says:

      There’s also a massive 3 day music festival in Vegas every June, it could be that skewing the fares.

  • Sididdly says:

    Slightly OT. Can anyone recommend a decent hotel in New York in either IHG or Hilton. I have pretty much unlimited IHG and Hilton points so all redemptions can be considered. Flexible on location as long as it is accessible by public transport and handy for ‘touristy’ things.

    • Mikeact says:

      Should be posted, moved over to ‘Bits’ .

      • callum says:

        Is that what “bits” is for? I know a bunch of regulars (who constantly post OT!) decided amongst themselves a while ago that it’s fine if they do it in the “bits” articles, but I’m not aware of that being a site rule?

        • Peter K says:

          Mikeact is correct that off topic questions are meant to be in the bits section. There’s no written rule but it is something that has been agreed by the consensus and agreed in principle by Rob.

        • Rob says:

          That is a fair summary 🙂

          However, you will probably get a better response to general queries under Bits as that is where people tend to look for them.

          No site rule – I don’t (and the software doesn’t let me) move comments between articles.

        • Geoffthesaint says:

          Yeah. Seems the best option – with so many newbies posting who ar unwilling to read robs eextensive articles

      • Fenny says:

        Does this get added to all non-Bits OT queries? There seem to be plenty of articles where the comments go massively OT.

      • the_real_a says:

        Oh for God`s sake. Just answer the guys question…

        IHG typically has the best “value” redemption in New York for mid-market properties. The best thing i can suggest is to take a look at the IHG map. Its a little out of date and some of the points categories have shifted slightly but its great for planning. If you have already seen Manhattan do consider staying in Brooklyn or Williamsburg both very easy reach of the main sights.

    • Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

      I thought Millennium Hilton was fairly good, quiet location but on lots of subway lines. Great views of 1wtc and the rest of the city if you get one of the junior suites.

      • Michael C says:

        Yeah, pretty decent. Nice size rooms, great transport as you say. Century 21, if that’s your thing!

    • Paul says:

      The Intercon Times Square or The Barclay. Had 4 nights at the IC timescsquare last August. Great location and subway is 30 feet from front door no changes to JFK.

    • Ade says:

      We stayed in the Barclay a couple of months ago, it has recently been renovated and is fairly central. I’d happily recommend

    • Prins Polo says:

      The Barclay is okay but I really like Indigo (Lower East Side) – a hip hotel with cool rooftop bar.

    • Rob says:

      Conrad New York is probably best, look also at InterCon Barclay or Times Square.

      All reviewed on HFP if you search.

    • David says:

      Don’t stay in a DoubleTree – they are awful. Did do IC Times Sq and was great location and room

    • TripRep says:

      Sididdly – We did a 5 night stay across different hotels.

      Hilton Midtown is decent and good location for the north.

      Sadly Waldorf Astoria is now closed.

      + Another vote for Junior Suite at Millennium overlooking WTC.

    • Fenny says:

      I found the Staybrigde Suites near Times Square to be a great location. It’s next to the Port Authority bus terminal, easily walkable to Times Square. I walked to and from Penn Station with my luggage without any problem.

      • Kathy says:

        Yes, I liked the Staybridge Suites. Especially good if you need some kitchen facilities.

      • Ray says:

        +1 for Staybridge Suites. Basic,but great location. Free nibbles as well some evenings.

    • Graham Walsh says:

      I stayed at the CP TQ earlier this year. Good location. Opposite the M&M store (bad for the wallet).

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