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LOTS of American Airlines (very comfy) business class seats between London and the US for Avios

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American Airlines now has a very good business class product on its London to New York route.  It is a herringbone layout and looks like this:

…. on the new Boeing 777-300ER (77W in AA parlance) and:

….. on refurbished older Boeing 777-200 (772 in AA speak) aircraft.

Those of you of a certain age will know that the US airlines used to have laughable business class products.  American has now not only caught up but, in terms of Club World, overtaken.

The reason I’ve never reviewed the new seat is that American is incredibly stingy at opening up reward seats.  On Tuesday, however, it opened up huge chunks of space from New York and selected other destinations to London (and other European cities) for much of 2018.

This is good news because, as a British Airways partner, you can book these seats using Avios.

How to find American Airlines business class availability

The easiest way to search is at even though you will be booking via using Avios.

On the AA home page, open the ‘Advanced Search’ box.  Scroll down and ensure you’ve got ‘MilesAAver’ and ‘Business’ and ‘American Airlines’ selected under ‘Options’.  Make sure you have ‘Book Using Miles’ selected.

On the results page, select ‘Business / First MilesAAver’ and ‘Full Calendar’.

This is what you see for April as at 10pm last night to New York from Heathrow (click to enlarge):

and from New York to Heathrow:

You want days showing 57,500 miles seats.  Click through and make sure that the flight offered is direct.  The 77W flights on new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft are the ones to go for, if reputation is anything to go by, but a similar seat is on the 772 (Boeing 777-200) aircraft which also fly the route.

Go over to, plug in the same dates and the same flights will show.

For clarity …. you do NOT pay 57,500 miles.  That is the price if you have AA miles.  You will pay 60,000 Avios each way which is the peak day one-way cost of an Avios redemption to New York.  All American Airlines flights are charged at peak day pricing.  You cannot use a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher.

Other routes are also showing good availability

Reports on US frequent flyer sites suggest similarly good availability from Los Angeles, Charlotte and Raleigh to London.  Other AA hubs such as Miami, Philadelphia and Chicago are not so open.

I did NOT see much availability – although there is some – on American’s other routes to the UK:

Edinburgh to New York (Summer only)

Glasgow to Philadelphia (Summer only)

Manchester to Chicago

Manchester to Philadelphia

Let’s talk taxes

To be honest, if you have any oneworld miles except Avios then use those instead.  In almost all case you won’t pay any surcharges, because AA doesn’t actually add surcharges.  However, if you book with Avios, BA adds on a surcharge (which it pockets) in order to equalise the taxes between the BA and AA services across the Atlantic.

This is why a return flight on AA to New York comes with $300 of taxes compared with £500+ if you book exactly the same flight with Avios via BA.

If you only have Avios, of course, it is a moot point!

Hopefully the availability will still be there when you read this on Wednesday morning for anyone who wants to give the American Airlines business class product a try to the US.

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  1. Basic question – why do you ‘want days showing 57,500 miles seats’? What are the others in grey eg 30k?

    Also, I can get an availability chart on AA as shown, but not all of the flights show up on BA.

    • The 30k dates are economy flights but on this example the Business SAAver filter has been selected so they’ve been greyed out

    • Those 30k seats are economy seats on days when there is no business space at 57,500 miles.

      If it shows as MilesAAver on AA and it is a non-stop flight then BA can book it. If there is a connection involved with AA then BA may not be able to book it due to married segment issues with AA.

  2. Aren’t there reports of the 777-200 seats (the ones with the rear facing seating in the second photo) moving around when the person next to you moves?

    • I didn’t find that to be any worse than with the CW seat where you get exactly the same thing. I thought those seats were perfectly fine, but the other version of the 777-200 is much better

      • I’ve got an AA trip coming up with flat beds on 330, 757 and 321 so it will interesting to compare all of those against each other and against BA CW. Mind you, based on HFP reviews and comments, I have even higher hopes for the QR business holiday trip coming up!

        • What QR aircraft are you travelling on?

        • No reply link on your post for some reason shd – but new and old. Nice new 787 and older 777. I guess ‘high hopes’ was not the right terminology – I know what to expect, I should have said ‘looking forward to’ – although maybe not the 17hr flight. But at least it should be in comfort.

    • Yes, they vibrate because of the way they are constructed, basically two seats in one.

  3. Richmond says:

    There’s def. some availability on AA LAX-LHR last minute. I’m looking for a flight next week and stumbled upon some business class seats. However taxes are quite high for one way ticket.

    Actually BA taxes for economy redemption from USA to UK, cost almost the same as basic Norwegian one way ticket.

  4. Are these good seats only on the New York to Heathrow route? i.e. they haven’t fitted these seats to Miami for example?

    • You certainly get them on the Miami route which uses the 77W. The A330s (former US Airways) are very similar, and the J cabin on good is very private as its forward off the entrance door, so you don’t get Y passengers traipsing through when boarding. No F on the A330.

  5. It’s good to see that people things the latest AA business seat is good….

  6. Slightly OT as its about Virgin Miles, but I only recently found out that if you use your VMs for Delta flights the charges are considerably lower. For example, LHR-JFK in economy is £136 return on Delta but £266 on VA. You do, however, require more points to use the Delta flights.

    VA’s site is a bit weird when looking to book miles flights though as there doesn’t appear to be any rhyme or reason as to when they offer the Delta options to you. When we booked for February we were offered a lot of Delta options (which we booked) but we’ve had to cancel those now and we are looking at going in the summer but we are only getting offered VA flights (which has plenty of availability)

    Wish I could work out how to get the Delta flights when VA website doesn’t offer them as I’d rather use more miles and less money

  7. Neil Donoghue says:

    While on the topic of VS – I have 160,000 VS points and the other half has 80,000. Can we somehow combine the points to book 2 x Return Ana flights to Tokyo in F? Thanks

    • Not too sure, but I think pooling is only for VS Gold, shame because nearly everyone else let’s you do it from base.

      • ankomonkey says:

        ANA reward flights with VS miles can only be booked as returns, so it’s slightly more complicated than a VS redemption. I suspect it would need a friendly CS person who might be willing to be flexible.

      • Yep ANA via Virgin is returns only. PIA.

  8. Cheers guys, just spoke to VS after 1.5 hours on the phone. Not only would they not let us combine points, but apparently there is no availability in first class between today and the 1st of December 2018!! Looks like my other half needs to up her game asap

  9. Paxtonfan says:

    One of the biggest failings of BA compared to AA is the lack of ability to enter Known Traveller Numbers (Global Entry) on bookings. It is infuriating to have to go through full US security instead of being given TSA Pre-check. BA recently told me that they have no plans to update their systems. From my perspective it is a deal breaker and I only fly BA when I have a 2-4-1 to redeem. On a recent return flight booked in economy for cash we were offered an upgrade at check in to Y for $400 each. Im only 5’7” so thought the flat bed seat was way better than CW. For pure Avios bookings it’s AA for me hands down

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