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Lots of American Airlines business class seats between London and the US bookable for Avios

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American Airlines now has a very good business class product on its London to New York route

It is a herringbone layout and looks like this:

…. on the new Boeing 777-300ER (77W in AA parlance) and:

….. on refurbished older Boeing 777-200 (772 in AA speak) aircraft.

Those of you of a certain age will know that the US airlines used to have laughable business class products.  American has now not only caught up but, in terms of Club World, overtaken.

The reason I’ve never reviewed the new seat is that American is incredibly stingy at opening up reward seats.  On Tuesday, however, it opened up huge chunks of space from New York and selected other destinations to London (and other European cities) for much of 2018.

This is good news because, as a British Airways partner, you can book these seats using Avios.

How to find American Airlines business class availability

The easiest way to search is at americanairlines.com even though you will be booking via ba.com using Avios.

On the AA home page, open the ‘Advanced Search’ box.  Scroll down and ensure you’ve got ‘MilesAAver’ and ‘Business’ and ‘American Airlines’ selected under ‘Options’.  Make sure you have ‘Book Using Miles’ selected.

On the results page, select ‘Business / First MilesAAver’ and ‘Full Calendar’.

You want days showing 57,500 miles seats.  Click through and make sure that the flight offered is direct.  The 77W flights on new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft are the ones to go for, if reputation is anything to go by, but a similar seat is on the 772 (Boeing 777-200) aircraft which also fly the route.

Go over to ba.com, plug in the same dates and the same flights will show.

For clarity …. you do NOT pay 57,500 miles.  That is the price if you have AA miles.  You will pay 60,000 Avios each way which is the peak day one-way cost of an Avios redemption to New York.  All American Airlines flights are charged at peak day pricing.  You cannot use a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher.

Other routes are also showing good availability

Reports on US frequent flyer sites suggest similarly good availability from Los Angeles, Charlotte and Raleigh to London.  Other AA hubs such as Miami, Philadelphia and Chicago are not so open.

I did NOT see much availability – although there is some – on American’s other routes to the UK:

Edinburgh to New York (Summer only)

Glasgow to Philadelphia (Summer only)

Manchester to Chicago

Manchester to Philadelphia

Let’s talk taxes

To be honest, if you have any oneworld miles except Avios then use those instead.  In almost all case you won’t pay any surcharges, because AA doesn’t actually add surcharges.  However, if you book with Avios, BA adds on a surcharge (which it pockets) in order to equalise the taxes between the BA and AA services across the Atlantic.

This is why a return flight on AA to New York comes with $300 of taxes compared with £500+ if you book exactly the same flight with Avios via BA.

If you only have Avios, of course, it is a moot point!

Hopefully the availability will still be there when you read this on Wednesday morning for anyone who wants to give the American Airlines business class product a try to the US.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (65)

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  • BrianN says:

    Bit OT but just as you mentioned club world. Flew inbound BA CW yesterday and it just looks old/dated.

    Everything a bit old/rattly. Person beside me couldn’t get a flat bed. My foot rest wouldn’t adjust to different positions and the padding on top was hanging off.

    My remote control to operate the TV wasn’t working and was a pain with the touch screen when lying back. Incredibly two members of cabin crew didn’t actually know the remote control “did anything”. They actually genuinely thought you could only operate TV with touch screen.

    Few other small issues as well. Was not impressed at all. I genuinely think I would have preferred to save the avios and the extra cash and sit in WT.

    Then again on WT outbound flight there was chewing gum and chocolate smeared on seat in front me and I didn’t have a safety card. Asked twice for a safety card but nothing arrived.

    • James says:

      Yep, it’s gone downhill horribly.

    • Michael C says:

      I must admit on the LHR-NYC daytime flight I’m happy enough with WTP.
      That nighttime return is a killer, however: has anyone done the AA 1020h JFK-LHR?

      • Sarah says:

        Yes, I have – it was very pleasant, although I was in J rather than WTP. I believe a proper lunch was served and the AA version of ‘Club Kitchen’ is streets ahead of BA – lots of fresh nibbles and sandwiches and cakes. I prefer day time flights as I don’t sleep too well on overnights and I llike the AA seats – they are really comfy for lounging in, plus the aisle access is a big bonus.

    • Jim says:

      which route / aircraft?

      • will says:

        Indeed varies hugely with route. The 777’s they run to places like BKK really are terrible whereas the A380’s and 787’s are pretty decent in my experience.

        I’ve found the super high J 747’s absolutely fine as well, cant speak for other configs of the 747 as I know the planes themselves are very long in the tooth.

  • Bagoly says:

    Is there any advantage/disadvantage to booking using Iberia rather than BA?

  • James says:

    The crazy surcharges are so frustrating.
    Given you can, with a bit of luck for your dates, in a sale be looking at ~£1k return then £500 plus 120,000Avios seems a rip off !!
    Of course out of sales dates it’s a different proposition.

    • ABC says:

      Buy AAdvantage points instead. You can easily get them for less than 1p/mile.

      • Colin MacKinnon says:

        Where’s the best place?

        • ABC says:

          DM someone with a nice balance. Can be done in various forums. Slickdeals is another option. Or brokers.

      • RK says:

        Where can you get AA miles for 1p?
        They are usually over 2p on the AA site

        • Rob says:

          They are on permanent special offer, a bit like the DFS sale. One offer ends, you wait 2-3 weeks, another one comes. A bit like IHG recently.

    • Neil says:

      Pointless using BA based on this calculation. Its a fairly short flight anyway so save your Avios for better airlines eg Cathay etc

  • Frenzie says:

    It is worth noting that with the new CW service, the soft product is much much better on BA than on AA.

    • ABC says:

      BA no longer has a competitive business class product. Business class is predominantly about the seat and AA 7777-300ER has among the best seats in the business. BA’s seats are almost impossible to sleep on. BA’s soft product may on average be slightly better than AA given the inconsistent service on AA. I pick AA over BA on any transatlantic flight.

      • shd says:

        BA’s service has always been consistently inconsistent, so they’re in good company with AA there.

        That “new CW service” is already being enhanced (see FT for details), plus it is suffering from the slowest rollout in history! How hard can it be for BA to buy bedding?

      • will says:

        Personally I find CW very nice for sleeping comfort because my feet are not restricted into a little cubby hole. It’s one of the few advantages the CW layout has over other lie flat configs.

  • Nick says:

    As many of us know, it’s often the little things in air travel life that make a big difference. I fly regularly LHR-CLT with American (formerly with US Air) in Flagship Business. The Bose Noise Cancelling headphones are the best and, unlike BA, they know how to prepare fillet steak to perfection! 🙂

  • shd says:

    Yesterday someone asked

    “Why do you sound so baffled that you might need to pay BA something to use your avios? Did you think they were magic beans?”

    Today Rob posts how “a return flight on AA to New York [2 x 57,500 AA miles] comes with $300 of taxes compared with £500+ if you book exactly the same flight with Avios via BA [2 x 60,000 Avios]”

    Looks like those AA magic beans work just fine.

    • Lumma says:

      That $300 is the taxes that have to be paid by American Airlines to fly the route. The £500 includes fake fees made up by British Airways. That is the difference .

  • Anna says:

    Is there any easy way of searching for AA reward availability from MAN on ba.com? All their search tools seem to only work with flights out of London airports and often only show BA operated services.

  • ee says:

    The AA 77W has a J ‘mini cabin’ immediately behind F in the section between doors 1 and 2. From memory it’s rows 3 and 4 and comprises just 8 seats. We’ve always enjoyed the trip in those seats (feels exclusive) except the time we went tech and by the time we were fixed storms had rolled in taking the crew out of hours. So we ended up in random seats on the first BA 747 the next morning!

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