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Bits: Is British Airways getting rid of the Club Europe table?, last day for 30% Hyatt ‘buy points’ bonus

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News in brief:

Is British Airways getting rid of the Club Europe console?

On Wednesday we wrote about the plans by British Airways to cap Club Europe at seven rows due to the lack of galley space on its new and ‘to be refurbished’ short haul aircraft.

Our article was reposted at Flyertalk and confirmed by other crew members.  In a detailed reply, one crew member made a new revelation:  British Airways is to remove the Club Europe ‘middle seat’ tray tables.

If this crew member is accurate – and the comment was made as part of a detailed post which appears correct in all other details – then this is being done purely to save a very small amount of weight.

I admit that no other European airline has these.  However when I flew SWISS Business Class the other week I was disappointed to see that they didn’t.  I have grown used to being able to put my drink or tray on the console table.  I even remember thinking that BA isn’t always behind the curve on everything ….. a bit of a mistake there clearly.

Removing the console table will also make it very difficult to work on the drop down table and have a drink at the same time.

British Airways removing Club Europe console table

30% bonus when you buy Hyatt points

Until TONIGHT – 23rd February – Hyatt is offering a 30% bonus when you buy World of Hyatt points.  The minimum purchase for the bonus is 5,000 points.

This is obviously worth a look if you need to top up your account.  It may also be worthwhile if considering a stay in a top tier Park Hyatt such as the ones in Paris or Sydney, where buying the points may be cheaper than paying cash.

The new Park Hyatt resort in Mallorca is another location where buying points may make sense.   Prices for cash are still a little scary – rooms from Euro 495 in August, or Euro 550 if you want a cancellable one.  A redemption at 20,000 points per night ($360) would be a good deal.

The Hyatt ‘buy points’ site is here.

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  1. OT – Change of aircraft on Qatar Business flights booked in their November sale. Change from 777-300 to A340-600 on DOH-BKK and back. How does 777 compare to a340? Any chance of them changing us to one of the 777 flights without charge? Thanks

    • I don’t think Qatar will change your flights without charge just for a change of aircraft type. I think they’ll only do it if they change times by over two hours or if it results in a missed connection.

      Not an expert on their different aircraft but it looks like both types are 2-2-2. I’m assuming some of the 777s are being taken out to have the Q-Suites put in.

      • It is 2x2x2, not fully flat. Not ideal but you don’t have any grounds to switch. They only have a couple of these planes and they are dumped on low yield Asian routes, usually Colombo,Jakarta etc.

        • Looks like we’re stuck. They won’t change it for free, 600 EUR per passenger to change. Bit of a joke, if this was the schedule when I booked I would have avoided it or not booked at all.

        • @RC, I got one of these from LHR the last time I flew QR. I could not remember if it was angled or full flat but I guess the former given comment from Rob. My flight was fine, nothing I can remember being unhappy about. If your BKK sector is daytime it may even work in your favour, IME angle seats are usually more comfortable in upright or semi-reclined position than full flat seats. Besides, if your flight is some way off they may yet switch it again.

        • Evening sectors on the a340 both ways so would prefer fully flat. If it was scheduled as a340 at the time of booking I would have avoided it after checking the fleet info on their website which says 165-degree recline and chosen one of the 3 other options with marginally longer layovers at the same price. They’re operating 3 or 4 flights a day into BKK around the time we’re going so hoping they’ll be flexible in this case.

        • QR now fly to 5 cities in Thailand so might be worth checking if you can reduce the €600 from one of the others. I imagine Pattaya Utapao might be your best bet and it is only about 3h drive from Bangkok. However the a346 is a big bird and could pop up anyplace so I would not throw much money at changing it. If they can swap it out for a twin engine I imagine they will.

        • They stitched me up with a switch like this once.
          I decided to pay to change flight for a better aircraft as they utterly refused any free change despite them changing what I had agreed to buy.
          I think they offered me a complete refund though but the flight was dirt cheap in the first place so not a good option given I did want to get from.A to B, but I did want to do it in a comfortable seat !

        • Think they ‘only’ wanted about £250 per person to change the flight. €600 I would have lived with the ‘downgrade’ but moaned like crazy…..which would fall on deaf ears at QR.

          Not all business class seats / cabins are created equal and QR should recognise this when switching planes and at least offer a free or hugely reduced fee to switch plus extra QMiles as compensation.
          But then when have QR customer services ever been there for the customer !!

  2. TGLoyalty says:

    Incase you haven’t seen it Double Avios on the stores this weekend

  3. Can’t they just change their name to Ryan Air and be done with it 😉

  4. Siegfried says:


    • Exactly. Reduce the middle seats and save a lot of weight! Have a 2-2 configuration like in the U.S.

  5. Roger Norwich says:

    BA ‘business’ is a joke. I use it a lot as what’s behind it is even worse it is a part of the race to the bottom and is a complete con really compared with what should be provided for the money ie 2 x 2 seating.
    Why oh why did BA hire a guy from a low cost outfit to run it? Doesn’t he realise that we don’t ALL want to travel like animals and be treated like dogs? There are plenty of other people who provide that. Everytime I fly I see more and more demoralised staff and worse and worse service. the only thing that keeps me flying with them is habit. Really its quite shocking.

    Why not ask the ceo himself on [email protected]?

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