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Is British Airways getting rid of the Club Europe business class console table?

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On Wednesday we wrote about the plans by British Airways to cap Club Europe at seven rows due to the lack of galley space on its new and ‘to be refurbished’ short haul aircraft.

Our article was reposted at Flyertalk and confirmed by other crew members.  In a detailed reply, one crew member made a new revelation:  British Airways is to remove the Club Europe ‘middle seat’ tray tables.

British Airways removing Club Europe console table

If this crew member is accurate – and the comment was made as part of a detailed post which appears correct in all other details – then this is being done purely to save a very small amount of weight.

I admit that no other European airline has these.  However when I flew SWISS Business Class the other week I was disappointed to see that they didn’t.  I have grown used to being able to put my drink or tray on the console table.  I even remember thinking that BA isn’t always behind the curve on everything ….. a bit of a mistake there clearly.

Removing the console table will also make it very difficult to work on the drop down table and have a drink at the same time.


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Comments (124)

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  • Lee J Thornton says:

    BA should make all passengers go to the toilet before boarding, imagine how much of a weight / fuel saving that would be? Alex, please can I have a job?

    • Jonny says:

      Pretty much what they’re doing given they’re removing a toilet to fit more seats in….

      • Steve says:

        I remember O’Leary proposing paying £1 for using toilets in the airplane. Back then I thought it was a good PR stunt but BA can actually implement it.

        • Lady London says:

          Did anyone read the news coverage yesterday about the British Airways plane that was forced to make an emergency landing so that passengers could relieve themselves after all the toilets stopped working?

          Wow with only two toilets…. it will only take one emergency landing every three years or so and the associated extra costs to more than wipe out all the savings

    • Pangolin says:

      Don’t give Cruz any ideas!

  • Omar says:

    Cant you just use the middle seat tray table? Is that big of a deal, and this way you can put more random nonsense in the middle seat.

  • BlueHorizonUK says:

    IAG FY18 Slide Presentation

    Uh oh….Slide 32……Avios Transformation

    • Genghis says:

      Integrating the avios platforms has been talked about for a while. I remember talking about it well over a year ago with an avios employee at the HfP xmas party.

  • C77 says:

    And here’s another exclusive scoop for you (not on flyertalk yet as far as I’m aware). BA crew friend of mine just told me that BA/IAG have decided not to fit the new euro aircraft with the extra large overhead lockers it had originally intended in order to make a further cost saving. These being the ones that could store multiple wheelie bags on their thin side and wheels first. Back to normal “not quite big enough to achieve this” lockers and a $30,000 cost saving per aircraft.

    • Lady London says:

      If I can’t carry my normal wheelie plus laptop bag then that’s the end of British Airways for me, in any class.

    • Paul says:

      Shouldn’t believe crew rumours, BA will have the newly offered large bins, as soon as airbus is able to fit them, and then the first neo’s delivered will be retrofitted. The XL bins were not an option when first ordered.

  • Rob says:

    Overnight usually

    • Anna says:

      Yes usually much quicker – worth contacting them to make sure they haven’t gone to the wrong account if they don’t appear today.

  • Ian says:

    I would miss the centre console table but, before they used to have these, I seem to remember using the tray table for the middle seat as extra space for both myself and the occupant of the other seat. At least I won’t be able to tuck something away under the centre console table and forget to take it off the aircraft!

    • Save East Coast Rewards says:

      The good thing about the middle seat table was you didn’t have to fold it up if the window passenger wanted to get up.

      Other airlines used to have the middle seat table, Lufthansa had them in the seats they got rid of (and gave to bmi) and I’m sure I’ve been on at least another airline with the table. BA seemed to be getting it when others were scrapping theirs.

      I hope BA think again.

      BA sometimes back track from their mistakes. Remember when Club Europe had the width convertible seats? The DEF side originally had the middle seat occupied and only B was left free as it was squashed (while all the other seats were wider). When they changed to middle seat blocking they originally decided they were no longer adjusting the seats to make them wider, but many complaints made them decide otherwise.

      • Lady London says:

        Swiss used to have some sort of arrangement when the middle seat appeared smaller with something on top of it. Haven’t seen that for a long while though.

      • Ron Lichtenstein says:

        I flew on Lufthansa yesterday (Feb 25, 2018), Airbus 321 from FRA to TLV. They still had the centre seat console in Biz.

  • Alan says:

    Completely OT, but this is “bits”.

    Looking for advice from experienced Heathrow T3 users.
    We (Myself, wife and 14 YO daughter) are going to New York for 6 days later in the year. We are booked on the 9AM flight out so an early start requiring an overnight stay. We will be driving up from the South West so will need somewhere to park. I’m wondering what is the best combination of hotel and car park for balance of convenience and cost? The car parks, in particular, are a bit of a nightmare as the reviews are all over the place.

    No points to redeem so it will be straight cash. I do have Accor points but they don’t seem to have rooms available that will accommodate 3 people.

    Not avers to a Travelodge for one night either if it is the best option.

    Thanks to anyone that can help

    • Anna says:

      Could you book a room for 2 then request a roll away bed for your daughter? Prices tend to vary for these from about £20 – £50 (!!) so it may or may not be worth it.

      I’ve found Looking4Parking to have the best park and stay deals the last couple of times we’ve needed to do that.

      • Alan says:

        Thanks Anna.

        Don’t think its worth bothering with the Accor hotel.

        Could you tell me which car parking you actually booked (I’m assuming Looking4Parking is just a broker?) and whether you were happy with it.

        Quite interested in Meet & Greet but you do read some horror stories (damaged cars, non-secure car parks etc). People at work have used Purple Parking quite successfully in the past but I notice they went into administration at the end of last year and they are now part Holiday Extras and I don’t know whether their service has suffered as a result.

        • Brian says:

          Alan – JustPark has some decent deals for parking at hotels along the Bath Road. The Marriott offers parking on the site, for instance, and it’s no more expensive than Purple Parking or any similar companies. Very easy to reach, especially if you are staying nearby, which I assume you will.

        • Alan says:

          Thanks for the advice Brian, I’ll take a look

    • Mark Priest says:

      Sheraton sjyline usually has some good stay and park deals.

      • Alan says:

        Thanks Mark and Craig. I’ll take a look at those.

        Was hoping for something with very little “faff” factor as its an early flight out and an overnighter on the way back. Would like to just get off the plane, out the airport and go.

        I really don’t like hanging around for a bus after a long flight. Just want to get on with it! Still, whatever is affordable and good I guess.

    • Craig Strickland says:

      There is a Purple Parking next to the Premier Inn on Bath Road? They class up to 15 as a child and have family rooms.

    • ankomonkey says:

      Premier Inn Bath Road using Purple Parking next door. Park your car the night before you fly, walk to Premier Inn (it’s 1 minute away), sleep, walk back to Purple Parking in the morning and take their bus to the terminal. Since you’re parking with them then you’re eligible to use the transfer bus.

      • Alan says:

        So there’s a path between Purple Parking and Premier Inn?
        I know that since Purple Parking went bust at the end of last year, and parts of it were bought by Holiday Extras, Premier Inn have ended their agreement with them. I don’t suppose they have closed the access path between the 2?
        Has anyone used the path since November?

    • James says:

      Travelodge are Wyndham are they ?
      If so, 2 stays gets you 15k points, enough for a few night in any Wyndham hotel.
      Just as an aside.

  • Mark says:

    Apologies for another OT post…But… I’ve just triggered my companion voucher with the £10k spend on my BA PP card. I now want to downgrade to the free card to recoup 7 months of the fee and also retain a BA amex. What is the best tactic for this? Should I apply for the free card then cancel my BAPP? Or is there a simple downgrade facility that combines the 2 in one transaction? I’m guessing I can’t earn the current 5k avios sign up bonus with the free card?

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