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Curve Card has announced a new benefit for cardholders today – 0% foreign exchange fees.

There is another major announcement to come in around 8 weeks, but you will have to wait for that one ….

(EDIT:  Curve has changed since this article was published.  Please do not rely on the information here.  Instead, please click here to read our detailed 2020 Curve review, which includes a link for a free £10 credit when you sign up.)

Curve has always been a good deal for making payments abroad.  Historically it levied a 1% fee on foreign transactions, which it recharged to any linked Visa or Mastercard.  If you didn’t have a separate 0% FX fees credit card then using Curve was better than paying 3% to your standard credit card provider.  Even if you did have a 0% FX fees credit card, it was often more valuable to pay Curve’s 1% fee and pick up miles or points from your linked credit card.

From today, Curve will drop its foreign exchange fee to 0%, albeit with a small weekend surcharge.  It is important to note that it is using the interbank rate and NOT the official Visa / Mastercard rates – which are a tiny bit away from the spot rate – so there is absolutely no FX loss at all.

This means:

If you currently have a 0% FX fees credit card which comes with no rewards, you should definitely consider switching to Curve

If you currently have a 0% FX fees credit card with 0.5% cashback (Aqua or Tandem), you should consider switching to Curve if you have a Visa or Mastercard credit card with more valuable rewards

If you currently have the 0% FX fees Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, you should consider switching to Curve when your Lloyds Avios Rewards card is closed (the replacement you will get charges a 3% FX fee)

Curve introduces 0% foreign exchange fees

The only snag is that Curve is imposing limits if you have the free card:

If you have the free Curve Blue card:

You can spend £500 per month in foreign currency at 0% FX, after which a 2% fee applies

You can withdraw £200 per month from an ATM in foreign currency at 0% FX, after which a charge of 2% or £2, whichever is higher, applies

Like Revolut, there is a weekend surcharge of 0.5% for £, $ and € (1.5% for other currencies) to reflect the currency risk taken by guaranteeing the closing Friday rate

If you have the £50 one-off fee Curve Black card:

You can spend an unlimited amount (subject to a potential fair use charge of 2% beyond £15,000 per year) in foreign currency at 0% FX

You can withdraw £400 per month from an ATM in foreign currency at 0% FX, after which a charge of 2% or £2, whichever is higher, applies

Like Revolut, there is a weekend surcharge of 0.5% for £, $ and € (1.5% for other currencies) to reflect the currency risk taken by guaranteeing the closing Friday rate

Curve Card 0% foreign exchange fees

If you are abroad a lot, the £50 Curve Black card now looks attractive.

Let’s imagine that you have £10,000 of annual foreign spending.  You would be paying £300 in fees on a standard credit card.  You could use a 0% card with 0.5% cashback like Tandem and receive £50 back.  Alternatively, you could a premium Mastercard or Visa – at the top end, the Virgin Atlantic Reward+ card – and pay 0% in FX fees and earn 15,000 Virgin Atlantic miles.

This new Curve benefit is also a good way of helping to trigger a long term spending bonus, such as the free night on the IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard (requires £10,000 of spending) or the 2-4-1 vouchers on the new Virgin Atlantic credit cards (require £10,000 – £20,000 of spending).

If you were thinking of upgrading to Curve Black, I recommend doing it sooner rather than later.  This card will see a substantial change to its benefits package and fee in a few weeks, but by upgrading now you will be locking in the £50 fee for 6 months.

Curve Card 0% FX fees

What is Curve?

If you’re not familiar with Curve, this is how it works.  Curve is a Mastercard DEBIT card that recharges every purchase you make to a linked Visa or Mastercard credit or debit card.

This is why Curve Card is worth having:

You make your debit card purchase – including tax payments – using Curve Card

Curve recharges it to your linked Visa or Mastercard credit card

It goes through your linked Visa or Mastercard credit card as a purchase

It therefore earns points from your linked Visa or Mastercard

You have just earned credit card points from making a debit card transaction

And the best bit is that Curve Card is free.  In fact, it is better than free – Curve Card will pay you £5 for taking it out.

It actually gets even better, due to two additional Curve Card benefits:

You can withdraw £200 of cash per month from an ATM and have it charged to your credit card as a purchase – this means it earns miles and points.  This benefit may go away soon as credit card companies can now see what you are doing following a change in how these transactions are processed, but for now it is business as usual.

Foreign currency transactions made on Curve are recharged to your linked Visa or Mastercard in Sterling with a 0% foreign exchange adjustment as we discussed above.  This makes it a better deal than using the underlying card which is likely to have a 3% FX fee.  There ARE FX fees for transactions at weekends and if you go over £500 per month.

One thing you CANNOT do with Curve is pay a financial services institution.  As with Billhop, HMRC is NOT treated as a financial services institution so you are fine.

Curve Card has an annual payment limit of £50,000.  This is fine for most people.  You won’t get this ‘out of the box’ however – you need to use the card for a few months until your limits build up as the company begins to trust you.

The Curve Card is FREE so there is no harm in trying it.   Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.

The Curve website is here if you want to know more.  You need to download the Curve app for your phone and order a card from there if you want to try it out.

Conclusion

Depending on whether £500 per month covers your foreign currency spending or not, this new development is either a major benefit or just a small tweak to the Curve package.

If you are a heavy foreign spender who would benefit from the £15,000 per year of 0% FX spending – and you have a suitably rich Mastercard or Visa rewards card to recharge your spending to – then you may want to upgrade to Curve Black for £50.

As I said earlier, there are other fundamental improvements to Curve coming in a few weeks which will be of strong interest to Head for Points readers, so it is definitely a product to keep on your radar if you do not have one already.


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Comments (362)

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  • Mark says:

    I suspect like a number of others I’ve been mulling over my foreign spend strategy with the imminent loss of 0% FX on the Lloyds Avios card. As a Curve blue holder (as is my wife) this looks generally positive. £1000 per month 0% FX between us which should generally be enough for a 1-2 week trip for spend on things where we’re not bothered about section 75 and particularly attractive whilst linked to the fee paid Virgin Atlantic card. Given we tend to withdraw small amounts of cash £200 each in fee free cash withdrawals is also interesting, so long as we don’t start to get hit with fees on the underlying card.

    Like others though I’d like to see the detail from Curve, e.g.:

    *Is the £200 foreign currency ATM limit in addition to the £500 spend limit, or included in it?
    *Is the £200 foreign currency ATM limit in addition to the fee-free Sterling £200 ATM limit, or is it £200/month in total?
    *What are the specific start and end times that the weekend 0.5% surcharge applies?

    Has the article changed regarding the Black £50 fee as it now talks about locking in for six month? Intriguing as it sounds I won’t be taking a punt without more detail – if it’s just an option to link to Amex that isn’t worth £50 for 6 months to me, let alone anything more.

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:

      Yes the article has been changed to read £50 for 6mths. Thanks for highlighting because while I read the comments I rarely re-read an article. Shouldnt that be flagged somewhere from an editorial perspective?

      • P says:

        It said 6 months when I read it about 9am this morning.

        • Rob says:

          It said 12 months originally, I was asked to change it.

        • Andrew L says:

          Sounds like Curve are going to get expensive. Will wait for further news but if the annual/6 monthly cost gets stupid I will just revert to using my IHG/Hilton cards directly, Starling for all overseas spend & say farewell to Curve.

        • Genghis says:

          @Rob @imaginecurve so what’ll happen for existing black holders?

        • Dubs says:

          +1 @ Genghis @ imaginecurve. Been reading throughout the day and as an original beta paying black card have been wondering this.

        • Paul says:

          I was one of the very early commentators who had my post deleted [12 months… £50…]… cheers Rob. I do appreciate your blog – but your connection with Curve [if only 2%…] lacks transparency. ‘I was asked to..’ Come on – if the Rob of 20 years ago was reading this today, what would his opinion be?

          • Rob says:

            It was a factual error and was changed. We change articles on a regular basis to correct factual errors at the request of those written about.

        • Alex Sm says:

          What about new MBNA Horizon cards which are effectively like Tandem but slightly more respectable?

          • Rob says:

            Very simple. If you have a Visa / MC where you value the rewards at more than 0.5p per £1 spent then Curve, linked to that card, is better. If not, it is worse.

        • Alex Sm says:

          Yes, that’s clear. I meant to respond to those who said they will revert to using their IHG/Hilton/etc co-branded cards directly instead of Curve. But why to do so if you have better deal with Horizon (for foreign spending I mean)?

        • Callum says:

          If you have no idea what’s going to happen to existing black card customers, why are you encouraging us to sign up now?

        • Craig says:

          @Callum +1

    • Lee says:

      Disappointing if you have been asked by Curve – so are we talking about £100 a year?!!

      • swhostring says:

        @Lee – Where’s your £500 for Children in Need? Full of

        • Yab says:

          His full of jealousy that one.

        • Genghis says:

          @Lee you do know you’re gonna get trolled over this till you pay up?

        • Lee says:

          Not had an answer yet!

          Getting people to sign up to Amex is not an answer! Unless you write a blog like Ron does! He makes many many thousands from referrals per year I expect.

          Still quite happy to make the donation, if you can show me an offer to make those points.

        • swhostring says:

          OK too late for IB 90K. I’m assuming you don’t have a girlfriend or significant other. But do you have a friend, sibling or Mum? Probably one of those.

          So you get the Plat, you refer 5 times, can nearly all be to yourself first time round. = 90K + about another 80K in points for the referee. Then you do it again on your friend’s card, so another 170K points. You cancel those cards & wait 6+ months then rinse & repeat. So we have another 340K points in the same year.

          Giving you 640K points.

          Hand over the £500 to children in need unless you’re all gob no trousers

  • P says:

    I like curve. I have since the start and have used them extensively. I am concerned about the way things are going however. I will wait a bit longer to see how things progress but my gut says it’ll be in a bad direction for what I want.

    • Marie says:

      Hi P,
      We are always happy to hear your feedback. What is it that you would like to get out of the Curve card in the future?

      • Christoph says:

        Hi Marie, thanks. AMEX support would be on the top of the list for any future changes. And yes, if this comes with an annual fee as an option, that would be fine with me.

        • swhostring says:

          How about £450 fee, free health & travel insurance and unlimited lounge passes?

          And maybe I can refer my friends & family to Curve for £150 a pop to mitigate the annual fee?

      • Kevino says:

        If you introduce life insurance do not stop it at 70. At least offer a way of paying a small premium to continue it beyond that age. The marginal cost is not high usually.

        • swhostring says:

          The health insurance (did you mean health?) that comes with Barclays Travel Plus Pack (£15.50/ month, also free breakdown insurance & 6x DragonPass lounge visits, can all be taken a once so good for families) – is for under 80s

  • lbc says:

    Interesting but do they still rip you off on the exchange rate ?

    Rob, would you write an article on Revolut ?
    I would be interested in your perspective.

  • GRIMZ says:

    When withdrawing $ from an ATM in the USA with my CURVE card what option do I choose?

  • Jovanna says:

    I keep receiving a notification that the transaction can not be processed because I’ve exceeded my daily limit when I try to use my Curve card but I’m nowhere near the daily limit.

    Is it blocked? I paid a couple of CCs from other CCs on Monday. Do I email or just leave it a few days?

    • Crafty says:

      If you have the time to come on here and post these vague customer service messages on behalf of Curve, surely you should also address the issue directly raised regarding your overnight change for credit card cash withdrawals and the widespread confusion over what it actually means for your customers.

      • Rob says:

        There is, at present, no charge for credit card cash withdrawals. NO card issuer is imposing them at the moment. They now have the ability to do so if they wish, because they can now identify cash transactions, but it isn’t happening.

      • Genghis says:

        How long does the “HfP refund guarantee” last for?

        • Rob says:

          Until someone posts on here they got charged 🙂

          My Creation cash withdrawal on Tuesday has gone through today as a purchase, to confirm other reports.

    • RTS says:

      Oh, wow – so there is someone from Curve that reads the comments section here.

  • AndyGWP says:

    Re: The earlier comments about which card you have depending on your rewards rate.

    My card is of indeterminate colour (I was swapped to black for free, but it might be ‘behaving’ as blue?). Problem is I haven’t actually accumulated any rewards yet. On clicking in the app to see what rewards are available it gives me the blue and the black rate. Is there any other way I can tell?

  • Jon says:

    So, purely hypothetically as there has been no announcement yet…..

    If there was a Curve user who was on the free version, but whose main issue was with the 50k limit rather than the lack of Amex They would be happy to pay for an upgraded annual limit but aren’t too fussed about Amex acceptance so wouldn’t pay just for that. Would it be worth them getting the paid version now to lock in the £50 rate…..?

    Asking for a friend 😀 😀 😀

    • Mark2 says:

      Rob always says that the £50,000 is a Mastercard limit.

      • swhostring says:

        Raffles gave a pretty big hint that you’d be canny to upgrade to Black – though his interests are not my interests so whilst he might think (say) some hotel deal was great, that would mean nothing to me. I’m assuming the fee going up is to pay for something good (maintain profitability Curve’s end whilst rewarding cardholders) that will be available to users & encourage them to use Curve more. Some kind of reward. Can’t see that Curve financing Amex MR points would be on the cards, too expensive unless strictly limited each month.

  • Rob says:

    Same maths – if your underlying card is worth more than 0.5p of points then it beats Horizon.

    • David says:

      Except if you’re travelling at the weekend, when Curve puts the 0.5% fee back on.

      The majority of my travel is on weekends, so I might as well leave my Curve card at home… (unless free ATM withdrawals are staying).

      • Pangolin says:

        Good point, and the same applies for Revolut (avoid using it at weekends).

      • Brian W says:

        Pangolin, you mean avoid topping it up at the weekends not using it. That’s a clear difference between Curve and Revolut.

      • Pangolin says:

        @ Brian W – Technically, yes, but if you’re somewhere where the local currency can’t be stored as a base currency then you should avoid using it, as top-ups are impossible.

        Also, I’ve had several instances where the local currency was not debited, even though there were sufficient funds, and instead a conversion was done to a different currency, meaning I got hit with the weekend surcharges (2 weeks ago I paid PLN in Poland and it deducted the charge from my GBP account at the unfavourable weekend rate). I was able to verify that this was not DCC related (as the rate would have been considerably worse and the receipt showed only PLN).

        Such quirks do happen so you still need to be on your guard when using it at the weekends.

      • Brian W says:

        Didn’t know that could be an issue @Pangolin, good to know. I’ve only used Revolut in Spain, France, USA and UAE and its always debited in the correct currency but I can see how your example would cause issues if it goes wrong.

        PLN is now a base currency so I’d be asking Revolut to credit the error if you had enough PLN to cover the purchase.

    • Mark says:

      And until you exceed your £500 limit (blue card) and assuming you’re using it on purchases where you’re happy to forego the section 75 cover.

      I’m thinking blue Curve, Tandem (and possibly Amex Gold in situations where you’re likely to be DCC scammed) might be the best combination for overseas travel once the Lloyds avios goes.

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