The British Airways ‘Landor’ Boeing 747 retro livery takes off

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• Anna says:

  10 Mar10 March 08:31

  OT – I might have miscalculated but by my reckoning BA should have released award flights for Feb 28th 2020 overnight but there’s nothing showing for any destination. It might be to do with it being a leap year and therefore an extra day to factor in next year, but I’m almost sure award flights for the 27th started showing yesterday.

• s879 says:

  10 Mar10 March 08:47

  OT but BA related: I have my first ever BA companion voucher. If I book 2 one way Business class tickets for December 2019 online and not book the return for another few months, will that be okay or will there be a fee? For one-way, do I need to book over the phone? If I get a return ticket to and from same country, are the taxes lower? I have enough Avios to book 2 one-ways for Dec 2019 and don’t want availability to go.
  Secondly, my partner has a Lloyds upgrade voucher. The flight I’m interested in only has an Economy and Business Class, no Premium Economy. Economy is showing as 20,000 miles. Does that mean I need to pay 20,000 miles to get the Business Class ticket? I know taxes will be of Business Class?

  • Anna says:

    10 Mar10 March 08:56

    Re the Lloyds point – is it a RFS? If so, yes you’ll only need 20,000 points, plus the RFS fee. If it’s, say, a one-way to NYC, you will need 40,000 avios (the price of a one way PE seat) to upgrade to business. It’s not clear from your post whether there’s no PE cabin on the plane or just no PE award availability.

    Re the companion voucher – you should probably read the excellent guide to using it on this site as this will answer all your questions.

  • Darren says:

    10 Mar10 March 09:55

    I’m sure I remember an article about adding extra flights onto an original booking months in after the original flights, but not sure if a 241 is applicable.

    Anyway, yes you can book one way and add the return later. Many people do this so they can nab seats 355 days in advance when the x2 CW seats are released. There are a few places that have lower taxes booking one way and adding a return later, HKG is an example at the moment but will probably change very soon.

    If you can’t do a specific booking online e.g. an open jaw, you shouldn’t be charged any admin fees.

    • Lady London says:

      10 Mar10 March 13:57

      Also it’s a GOOD thing if the aircraft you are flying on, doesn’t have Premium Economy if you want to upgrade to Business. The reason is that British Airways now lets you upgrade only one class from your original ticket now. So if you only have an Economy ticket and you’re quite happy to pay the extra miles and fees to upgrade to Business, you will be able to provided the aircraft does not have Premium Economy. Because if it did then the maximum upgrade you coud UUA to, would be Premium Economy. Which is mostly not worth it.

      • Anna says:

        10 Mar10 March 15:11

        s879 was asking about using a Lloyds upgrade voucher though, not miles. However, it’s made me wonder if there are any long haul flights were there are only economy and business cabins? The only time I’ve seen this is on short-haul flights to Europe.

      • David says:

        10 Mar10 March 20:12

        There is on the mid-haul A321s (assuming there are still some left?). Typically going to places like Beirut, Amman, Cairo sort of area.

• Craig says:

  10 Mar10 March 08:58

  O/T: I booked a Marriott hotel redemption pre points increase on 5/3 to use an e-certificate so as to transfer the points across and pay later, locking in the lower points redemption price. Checking the booking today shows the new points price required (extra 25k points/night). I’ve raise a ticket with their support team. Just a heads up for anyone in a similar position.

  • BJ says:

    10 Mar10 March 09:08

    Don’t think there is a problem in basis of reports on other blogs. I took screenshots and emaiked the reservations shoeing the old rate at gimd of booking to cover this eventuality.

  • Simon says:

    10 Mar10 March 12:21

    Just seen this on my account,too — all four of my R-C Tokyo Points Advance bookings have jumped from 60,000 to 85,000 Marriott points per night in spite of booking them in 2018. Should people be concerned, especially as Marriott Customer Service is appalling still (I say this as a Titanium Elite, too)?

    • Tom H says:

      10 Mar10 March 13:14

      Same happened to me. Increase by 25k per night. Phoned up and all sorted very easily. (Used the UK number)

    • Simon says:

      10 Mar10 March 15:15

      Tom (H), would you mind me asking if you used the generic Marriott UK number (020 7012 7312) when you called or actually another number? I only ask as I’ve not had the most favourable experiences calling the above number when calling about fairly simple matters, so I’m a tad apprehensive calling up about more complicated issues. Thanks,

    • Tom H says:

      10 Mar10 March 15:46

      Yep it was that number. No probs

    • Simon says:

      10 Mar10 March 16:05

      Perfect – many thanks, Tom. 😉

• John G says:

  10 Mar10 March 09:00

  I saw the Landor 747 parked up at T3 yesterday and had to double take when I first saw it. Brings back so many happy memories of when flying was that bit more special. The aircraft looked stunning in the flesh and really stood out next to the bland EK A380!

• BJ says:

  10 Mar10 March 09:04

  OT: Sadly an Ethiopian Airlines aircraft has just crashed en route from Addis Ababa to Nairobi. Reports suggest it was a 737 MAX, if true I wish they would ground this airrcraft, too many incidents for my liking.

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47513508

  • Andrew M says:

    10 Mar10 March 09:23

    +1

  • Craig says:

    10 Mar10 March 10:08

    Very sad but it’s important not to jump to conclusions, both accidents were in areas of the world where the safety record is less than ideal. What will help with this investigation is that the crash site is on land where recovery of the FDR (Flight Data Recorder) and CVR (Cockpit Voice Recorder) should be very straightforward. However, if there is a connection between this accident and the Max’s Manoeuvring Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) then there will be some serious consequences for Boeing. Lots of what-ifs until the initial investigation is complete and the above is entirely speculation on my part.

    RIP to all those onboard.

    • BJ says:

      10 Mar10 March 10:23

      It is not a case of jumping to conclusions, it is a case of reaching conclusions without putting 150+ people at risk on every flight.

      • Mr Dee says:

        10 Mar10 March 10:44

        Agree will not be flying on a 737 MAX anytime in the near future

      • Craig says:

        10 Mar10 March 10:57

        I agree completely, if it is MCAS related then revoke the approval.

        Just to add into the mix the US Embassy in Ethiopia has on their website: ‘U.S. Government travelers may arrive or depart from Bole International Airport on Sunday, March 10.’

        At the moment we just don’t know.

      • Jon says:

        10 Mar10 March 11:43

        Don’t Ryanair fly 737 MAX?

      • Craig says:

        10 Mar10 March 12:00

        I think they’ve had the first delivery but they are not in service yet.

      • Lady London says:

        10 Mar10 March 14:14

        I do recall commenting that I was not going to fly excellent Ethopian deals about two years ago on this site, because I just could not get out of my head the recollection of news coverage showing smoking aircraft on runway that was Ethopian. I accept that even in the case of the tragic Malaysian incidents, these are not the fault of the airline necessarily. I just have a long memory though.

        Very sorry for the passengers on the plane today. But I won’t be flying Ethiopian, nor Malaysian, nor certain other airlines, at any time in the future no matter how good the deal.

      • Shoestring says:

        10 Mar10 March 16:47

        @Lady London – bit unfair on Malaysian, not a lot they can do about (1) the Russian surface-to-air missile (and plenty of other airlines were also overflying Ukraine at the time, considering it safe) or (2) maverick pilot with mental illness who commits ‘suicide with 300 unwilling mates’.

    • Thomas Howard says:

      10 Mar10 March 10:45

      How many accidents at take off, when the aircraft is pitching up and MCAS might be required, need to occur before you’d suspend the airworthiness certificate?

      • Alex W says:

        10 Mar10 March 12:30

        Way too early to jump to conclusions here.

      • Thomas Howard says:

        10 Mar10 March 13:38

        I’d usually agree but the plane has known design flaw – oversized engines that effect that stability of the aircraft. They’ve tried to overcome this with MCAS and it looks like the solution hasn’t worked as we’ve had two very similar fatal incidents in less than 6 months.

• Waddle says:

  10 Mar10 March 10:56

  Sunday OT:
  Anyone heard any more news regarding the new Centurion Lounge at LHR T3? Have a trip in May wondering if I will have any options in addition to No1 & Aspire.

  • Rob says:

    10 Mar10 March 12:00

    Definitely happening but not heard any updates on timing.

• Joseph Heenan says:

  10 Mar10 March 11:05

  Does the headforpoints code get you 250 extra avios on the £199 capitalontap card too? The £199 option looks rather good I have to say. (why do capitalontap not junk mail me about that card instead of the continual postal junk mail about the uninteresting card…!)

  • Rob says:

    10 Mar10 March 12:00

    Yes it does.

• CV3V says:

  10 Mar10 March 11:42

  The old BA livery looks good, I like how they went all retro inside too with a really old business class product.

  • Lady London says:

    10 Mar10 March 14:16

    🙂
    We can have that every day, on so many planes 🙂

  • Shoestring says:

    10 Mar10 March 16:42

    +2 🙂 🙂 🙂

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