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EXCLUSIVE: British Airways trialling new Avios flight pricing – NO taxes but more Avios

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Here is something very interesting.  British Airways is trialling Avios redemptions with virtually ZERO taxes.

Take a look at the screenshot below.  It shows a one-way Avios redemption on British Airways from London Heathrow to Chania in Greece.

If you look at our full list of Avios redemption pricing by route (click here), you will see that Chania costs 20,000 Avios per person in Club Europe each way.

I would expect to see a price of 20,000 Avios + £25 for a Reward Flight Saver one-way redemption.

Instead, I see this (click to enlarge):

The ‘headline’ price is shown as 25,000 Avios + 50p in taxes and charges.

When you click through to the payment page, you are given this list of options:

The ‘proper’ price of 20,000 Avios + £25 is still there.  However, two additional options are shown:

25,000 Avios + 50p

22,500 Avios + £12.50

These two new options are very poor value.

In the first one, you are using 5,000 additional Avios to save £24.50.  This means you are getting 0.49p per Avios.  This is very poor.

In the second example, you are using 2,500 additional Avios to save £12.50.  This means you are getting 0.5p per Avios.  Again, very weak.

There is one upside.  If your plans were tentative, you would basically have no cancellations fees if you did this, as the fee is the lower of £35 or the cash supplement paid.

It happens in Economy too

If you try to book an Economy return flight to Chania (picture above), you get these options on a peak day:

27,000 Avios + £1

23,500 Avios + £17.50

20,000 Avios + £35 (the ‘usual’ price)

and then the standard mix of ‘Avios and cash’ combinations.

The maths is the same here.  You are using either 3,500 Avios to save £17.50 or 7,000 Avios to save £34.  Both get you 0.5p per Avios or thereabouts.

Is this a good thing or not?

On the face of it, it is fine.  It gives people more options and that is generally a good thing.

Whilst you’d need to be a little crazy to accept 0.5p per Avios if you earned your points from credit card spending, Tesco Clubcard conversions, Heathrow Rewards conversions etc, you may be happy with this if all your points came from flying.

It could be a sign that BA is planning to add 7,000 Avios return to the cost of Economy redemptions and 10,000 to Club Europe and make this the new baseline, as reflected in the reward charts.  This would make BA better off – because the extra Avios are being redeemed at a poor rate – and, bizarrely, may also make the Avios scheme look better to the casual traveller.

I have only seen this happening on the Chania route which implies that it is a small scale test.  I imagine that if most people choose the 50p or £1 option, even though it is bad value for your points compared to the standard Reward Flight Saver option, it will be extended elsewhere.

PS.  If you are wondering why British Airways has not reduced the taxes to zero, there is a technical reason.  ba.com cannot handle a transaction with no charge attached to it.  Until a few years ago, domestic Japan Airlines redemptions has £0 of taxes but ba.com could not book them – it only worked if you added a £1 donation to Flying Start during the check-out process.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (120)

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  • Mark says:

    I like this new feature a lot. BA will sell a lot more long haul Avios economy redemptions if they roll it out. For someone not too concerned about value it brings the scheme back to where we started, earn free flights for your loyalty.

    Personally I know too much about Avios now and will probably always steer towards the best value redemptions but i think giving the choice is a smart move.

    • Marcw says:

      Don’t be stupid! Nowadays a return to NYC costs 26k Avios + 300+ cash. If they translate this new pricing,,,, your NYC ticket will cost 26k + 60k = at least 86k rtrn for a NYC trip. Ridiculous.

      • Alex W says:

        To the non-HFP readers that probably seems like a good deal.

      • Paul says:

        Only ridiculous if you actually pay attention to how much you’re getting for your Avios. If you have ‘earned’ them ‘casually’, as mentioned above, you are now receiving a ‘free’ flight in reward, which sounds attractive. Not everyone, and I presume actually a tiny minority of people who use Avios for an East coast economy redemption, spend time browsing forums such as this… Ridiculous is the original cost of 26k+£370+ when the fist result from Google for LON_NYC is for a £268 cash price. Time for me to do some hard maths, but I’m thinking of giving up on the BA Amex in terms of chasing 241 vouchers.

        • marcw says:

          Fees and surcharges are ridiculous – that aside. BUT it doesn’t make sense at all. BA Executive Club has already dynamic pricing: it’s called Part Pay with Avios. In many cases you’ll be way better off going through part pay with avios directly from a cash ticket (you will earn some Avios as well), than using this combo redemption (fixed Avios + part pay with Avios for taxes+fees+surcharges).

          Of course, we are not taking into account other variables such as flexibility.

        • John says:

          Not sure how that is dynamic pricing. Part pay with avios only reduces the total amount to pay by a small proportion and the rates at which you sell avios to BA are usually fixed (and better the less you sell).

          • Rob says:

            I have rewritten that last bit, because I wasn’t very clear in what I was trying to say. Reference to ‘dynamic pricing’ has gone.

        • marcw says:

          It’s a hard-core dynamic pricing: value in Avios is strictly correlated to cash price (and not some random value). Cheap tickets = less Avios. Exp tickets = more Avios.

        • Alex W says:

          With this new deal it’s only a small fixed portion of the redemption which is charged according to revenue. Not dynamic in the usual sense which varies the redemption cost according to the cash fare at the time of booking.

        • marcw says:

          Agree. It’s part pay with Avios for the Taxes/Fees/Surcharges. In the case of RFS this *could* be interesting. If translated to LH this becomes ridiculous.

      • Lady London says:

        Alternatively a return to New York has cost you just £280 or even less quite a lot recently. Why give them the Avios as well? And not earn even the pathetic amount you can earn in low fare classes.

  • paul hanlon says:

    This is only a return to the original system on the standalone airmiles scheme.
    The default was for a free flight but you got far better value if you paid a small percentage yourself. I don’t think they told you It was the taxes but I could be wrong.
    Either way, this may be new for users who have come through the BA scheme but it’s not for those that migrated from airmiles. I don’t see it as a dynamic pricing forerunner.

  • Susan says:

    I’ve no objection to paying avios+taxes (i.e. genuinely external levys) but the airline surcharges which are a ticket charge in all but name are taking the mick on a “free” ticket.

  • Mr Entitled says:

    I struggle to use my Avios. I have lots of uses for my cash. This is a positive for me.

  • Marcw says:

    Basically this suggests that BAEC is considering paying taxes+fees with Avios at the “discount with Avios” rate. Struggle to see any “benefit” real benefit. and where is the dynamic pricing?

  • Nick says:

    This is the start of dynamic pricing like some
    Of the US airlines are now doing.

    The end of good redemptions is probably near and instead you can get excited about 100k Avios for one way economy LHR -JFK.

    • Mikeact says:

      Dynamic pricing ? Sadly I guess it will eventually be the way if BA go down the US route, or even closer to home, ie KLM.
      Let me give you a ridiculous example, and this may or may not be extreme.
      Monday October 21st. (Hardly Peak Period.) I looked at the price of a One Way Business from Boston to Amsterdam.
      Result ?
      Two direct flights shown on that day.
      1 KLM . Miles required 179000 Charges €188.95. ( Yes, you read that correctly)
      2 Partner flight using Delta. Miles required 56500 Charges €8.95
      Need I say more.

      • CV3V says:

        What one did you book?

        • Mikeact says:

          Neither ! It was to get my son home, but he found a very cheap TAP back to London via Lisbon.
          I just find it surprising that a partner redemption can save an incredible amount of miles and cash.

      • Michael says:

        What is the best way to burn flying blue miles on a long haul redemption? I’ve got an Alitalia long haul J coming up and I’ve already got some flying Blue miles in my account. I know it’s not the best FFP in the world but I want to have enough to do something useful with them.

        • marcw says:

          Promo awards. You will get some interesting value.

        • Alan says:

          I’d definitely look at one of their sales – 25-30% off long-haul redemption costs, get UK connection too

  • Mr. AC says:

    I’ve seen this pricing Tuesday evening on a LHR – DME economy roundtrip (24k + 1£ instead of the usual 17k + 35£ off-peak). However, I assumed it’s a Gold think – the same routing didn’t show this pricing on my wife’s account (Blue).
    Would be also interested to learn if Avios are in fact fully refundable if you cancel.

  • Andrew says:

    How will this affect passengers who currently enjoy tax-free flights from Inverness?

    • John says:

      INV flights still have fees and charges, (plus the tax from your destination on the inbound flight if it’s a return).

    • Rob says:

      RFS still exists from Inverness. This is only a short haul trial anyway.

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