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The SPG Amex rebrands as the Marriott Bonvoy American Express credit card

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A few days I wrote a long article on the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express Card.

It seems that this was a partial waste of time (only partial, because we’ve cut and pasted much of it into this article) because American Express has now announced the rebranding of the card, with ‘enhanced’ benefits.

This is what is happening on 26th February:

The name of the card will be changed to the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card

The earning rate will be slashed by 33%, from 3 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1 to 2 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1

The earning rate at Marriott Bonvoy hotels will remain 6 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1

Instead of giving all cardholders Silver Elite status, you will receive 15 elite night credits per year.  This will trigger Silver Elite status anyway, but also means that you are 15 nights closer to Gold Elite, Platinum Elite or Titanium Elite status.  This is a genuine improvement.

The annual fee remains at £75

Looking at the image on the letter, I think the card design is a copy of this US Bonvoy card:

Marriott Bonvoy American Express card

…… which is a shame, because this Bonvoy card – available only in the US – is much prettier in my view:

Marriott Bonvoy American Express card

Let’s take a look at the elite night credit in more detail.

These are the ‘nights’ requirements for different levels of Marriott Bonvoy status:

  • Basic Member: 0-9 nights
  • Silver Elite: 10-24 nights
  • Gold Elite: 25-49 nights
  • Platinum Elite: 50-74 nights
  • Titanium Elite: 75-99 nights

Because the Marriott Bonvoy American Express comes with 15 elite night credits, you will only need:

  • 10 additional nights for Gold Elite
  • 35 additional nights for Platinum Elite
  • 60 additional nights for Titanium Elite

Gold Elite is not worth much, so I won’t focus on that.  You can also receive Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for free by getting The Platinum Card from American Express.

Platinum Elite is where it gets interesting.  You can see the list of Platinum Elite benefits on the Marriott website here, but to summarise the relevant ones:

You get Executive Lounge access when the hotel has a lounge

You get a 50% bonus on your base points on every stay

You get a room upgrade, including suites, if available 

You get a welcome amenity – which can include restaurant breakfast if the hotel has no lounge or you would prefer to use the restaurant (this article explains the Bonvoy breakfast benefit by brand)

You get a GUARANTEED 4pm check-out except at convention and resort hotels

However you look at it, Platinum Elite is a good package.

50 nights is a stretch unless you are travelling heavily each week.  35 nights, on the other hand, is manageable for a lot of people.

If you believe that you could comfortably do 35 Marriott Bonvoy nights per year then it is well worth paying £75 for the new Marriott Bonvoy American Express in order to secure Platinum Elite status.

But if you’re not bothered about earning Platinum Elite status …..

For anyone who is NOT bothered about pushing for Platinum Elite status, the Marriott Bonvoy American Express is substantially less attractive than the SPG version. The day to day earning rate is cut by 33%.

I tend to value a Marriott Bonvoy point at 0.5p.  2 points per £1 means that you are getting a 1% return on your spending.  This isn’t bad BUT you are paying £75 per year for the privilege.

In comparison, if you value an airline mile at 1p, you could get:

1% back via the FREE British Airways American Express (1 Avios per £1)

0.75% back via the FREE Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard (0.75 miles per £1)

1.25% back via the £79 Lufthansa Global Traveller Mastercard (1.25 miles per £1)

What other benefits does the Starwood Amex offer?

Let’s run through the other benefits of the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card.

You receive Silver Elite status in Marriott Bonvoy

Because you only need 10 elite nights to receive Silver Elite status, and you will receive 15 elite night credits each year for holding the card, everyone who gets it will be – at the least – Silver Elite in Marriott Bonvoy.

The benefits of Silver Elite are not huge, of course.  You can see the different Marriott tier levels here.

The key benefits of Silver Elite status are:

    • 10% bonus on base points earned
    • ‘Priority’ for late check-out requests

…. and that’s it, at least in terms of stuff you will find genuinely useful.  It isn’t a lot but it should stop you getting the room overlooking the bins.

You get a free night voucher you get when you spend £25,000 in a year

The free night benefit is remaining as part of the card rebranding.

This sounds great, given some of the luxury properties in the Marriott portfolio.  However – whilst the Amex website doesn’t tell you this – it can only be used at hotels which costs up to 25,000 points per night.

This isn’t much.  For comparison, the top Bonvoy redemptions now cost 100,000 points per night.

It is also not possible to book a better hotel and pay the additional points on top.

In the UK, 25,000 points gets you the Bexleyheath Marriott, Courtyard Aberdeen Airport, MOXY Heathrow Airport, Durham Marriott, Portsmouth Marriott etc.  There is nothing in Central London – the MOXY at Excel is the nearest qualifying option, and even that goes up to 30,000 points on a ‘peak’ night.

Spending £25,000 on an Amex card is NOT easy – and your only reward is a free night at a relatively low-rent hotel.  It makes no sense.

Manchester Airport Marriott

It comes with a good sign-up bonus worth 10,000 Avios – if you qualify

Due to the new tough restrictions on sign-up bonuses that American Express launched last year, virtually no-one now qualifies for the sign-up bonus on the Marriott Bonvoy Amex.  You can’t get it if you have any other Amex card, and virtually no-one would choose the Bonvoy card as their first Amex.  Without a sign-up bonus, the £75 annual fee – which is NOT waived in Year 1 – looks tough.

(You SHOULD get the Marriott Bonvoy Amex as your first Amex card, as I wrote in this article.  But unless you read HFP, you probably wouldn’t.)

On the off-chance that you haven’t had any other personal American Express cards in the last 24 months, you qualify for the sign-up bonus of 30,000 Bonvoy points.  30,000 points is good for around £150 of free hotel nights or will convert into 10,000 miles with over 40 airlines, including Avios and Virgin Flying Club.

One positive quirk of Marriott Bonvoy is that you can transfer points between members for free, up to 100,000 points per year.  This means that you could persuade a family member who would qualify for the bonus to take one out and then transfer the points to you.

There is a low spend target to trigger the bonus

You only need to spend £1,000 within 90 days to receive 30,000 Bonvoy points as a sign-up bonus.  This is handy if you struggle to hit the £3,000+ required for Amex Gold, Platinum or BA Premium Plus.

You earn 2 Marriott Bonvoy points per £1 spent which I value at 1p

As I wrote above, the earning rate is looking weak now and certainly not a reason to have the card.  The only exception would be if you were spending such large sums that the £75 fee became a rounding error.

The double points (6 per £1) offer for spending at the 30 Marriott brands now seems to be permanent.  This IS a decent deal when staying at UK hotels.

Note that the card has a 3% FX fee so, irrespective of double points, it isn’t a good one to use abroad until your employer is repaying you.

It is a good way of earning airline miles if your airline no longer has a credit card

This is the real reason that you may want to get the Marriott Bonvoy Amex.  Now that Emirates, Etihad, American and United no longer have UK credit cards, the Marriott Bonvoy Amex is the best way to earn miles in these programmes.  There are also 30+ other airlines who never had a UK credit card, such as Air Canada and Qatar Airways, where this credit card is the best way to earn miles in the UK from day to day spend.

The problem is that, at 2 Bonvoy points (0.66 airline miles) per £1 of spending, the £75 per year annual fee doesn’t make sense for a lot of people.

You get Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for spending £15,000 in a card year

This isn’t worth much, to be honest, because Bonvoy Gold Elite has few benefits.  More importantly, you can get Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for free simply by taking out an American Express Platinum charge card, no spending required.

The new ’15 elite nights’ credit means that you would also receive Gold Elite status after spending just 10 nights per year in Marriott hotels.

The £75 annual fee is refundable pro-rata if you cancel

You can cancel the card at any point and receive a pro-rata refund of the annual fee.

Conclusion

For a small group of people – basically anyone who can easily do 35 Marriott nights per year but less than the 50 nights required to get Platinum Elite automatically – the ability to receive 15 elite night credits will make the Marriott Bonvoy American Express worth getting.

Unfortunately, I think far more people will now look at the £75 annual fee and the reduced ‘2 points per £1’ earning rate and decide to cancel.

My full review of the Starwood Amex credit card is here.  You can apply for the card here.  The new card is not available, but if you apply now for the SPG-branded version the new benefits will apply from 26th February.


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Comments (256)

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  • James says:

    Somewhat OT – is it advised that self referrals for amex are to be completely avoided given what has happened in the states with points being clawed back/accounts closed/frozen?

  • flood says:

    Does anyone know if these 15 nights count towards lifetime status?

    • Will says:

      I’d be keen to know that as well.

      Anyone with the creation card know as I think that gives 10 nights per year?

      • Mark L says:

        Creation 10 nights count to lifetime status, I’m hoping I will be able to double dip02ith the 15 in Amex. I’m hoping for (although I will reserve any expectations) :10 nights on creation and 15 on Amex. Plus if I choose 10 reward nights for my 75 nights choice awards, that’s 35 nights a year towards lifetime that have not involved a sleep 🙂

        • TGLoyalty says:

          you’ll get a max of 15 nights. the T&C’s about this and IT are at Marriott’s end not the card issuers.

  • Oh! Matron! says:

    Does it still have the insurance?

  • Alan says:

    Lol at some of the heading copy and pastes, Rob 😉

    “What other benefits does the Starwood Amex offer?”

  • Adrian says:

    Another Amex card that becomes “meh”. I think the real issue for me as someone has already said is the gulf between what you can get as a USA customer vs UK ones. It’s easy to be elite with Marriott, Hilton etc. in the USA, much harder here. Marriott and Hilton have a range of cards for the USA, we just get one (currently nothing for Hilton at all!).

    • The Urbanite says:

      There may not be any Hilton cards on offer at the moment but at least there is the option of earning Hilton Honors points with the Amex MR cards (2 per £1) or Virgin cards (up to 2.25 per £1) through their conversion partner schemes.

  • Russ says:

    I think you can get 20 elite qualifying nights if you take this card and choose five nights as the Platinum/Titanium yearly award. Brings it down to 30 nights a year for those chasing status.

    • E says:

      Your 5 nights as the Platinum/Titanium benefit only kicks in when you reach 50 nights so you still need 35 nights. The 5 nights only add on in the year in which you reach the 50 nights, so essentially meaning that year has 55 nights if that’s what you choose. The 5 nights can’t be added to your next year to mean you only need 30 nights that year to qualify. So this means if you got that benefit option in 2019 it can only be added to 2019’s total, and it won’t go on to 2020’s total even if you defer selecting the benefit till January 2020. So good if you’re chasing Titanium at 75 nights but useless for Platinum.

    • Mark L says:

      You get a choice for hitting 50 nights and another choice award for hitting 75 nights, so technically you can choose 10 elete nights as your award in a year. With this card, that’s 25 nights towards elete status. Helps a little with the removal for the 10 elete nights for booking a meeting. I actually held interviews at my local Marriott to get 10 nights credit (at my own expense) I may as well use my head office now

      • TGLoyalty says:

        but only one of the 5 nights is useful to hit titanium. after 75 nights if you choose 5 nights you are 25 nights closer to ambassador or all you have done is increase your lifetime count. They have no use in the following year.

        • Mark L says:

          Absolutely agree. Im chasing lifetime Plat, so for now, it has value. Once i reach Plat, this won’t be such a good deal, I will probably take the free night cert as my 75 night choice

  • joe says:

    Card is now absolute junk. That earning rate would be acceptable (but no more) if the card was free.

    • Lady London says:

      +1. Marriott have shot themselves in the foot here.

      OTOH they may simply have done a good job of selecting their customers. If you are a high spender who stays in Marriott hotels that have decent lounges (like Hamburg) and likrs to transfer miles to US mileage programs then in the absence of better competition they’ll keep you.

      We need a US card issuer (Capital One?) to pair up with Hilton and agree to share enough margin with Hilton to make it worthwhile for Hilton. UK card issuers have got too fat and are not adjusting to reality.

  • Emily chester says:

    So assuming we use cards to generate airline points only. So let’s do some math. I spend 40k per month.
    -40k on old spg rate gets me 50,000 airline points.
    -40k on new rate spg gets me 33,333 airline points
    -40k on ba gets me 60,000 avios
    -40k on virgin gets me 60,000 virgin
    -40k on amex gets me 40,000 airline

    So i can sacrifice 10k points in order to ib being universal and not locked into ba or virgin.
    But now that the sacrifice is 26,667k! per month….320,000 points per year…!!!
    explain to me why the foggiest I should keep the card??

    • Don says:

      Not everyone collecting airline miles I guess

      • Emily chester says:

        Well then what are you collecting? Hotel points? Then there is no issue and discussion of closing the card. If you want Marriot points then you need to keep the card. Devaluation is just too bad.

        The point of discussion is are the point you earn WORTH the card or rather you will do much better on another.

        So accordingly, it is at the bottom of the UK CC earnings table.

        I sometimes think on one hand the guys over there must know the game and business better then me, but then on the other hand I fail to understand it, so perhaps they indeed to NOT know what they are doing….?

        Plenty Card providers have had to close due to “not the best business move” which they did…
        Be they as big as you want.

        • Russ says:

          ‘Well then what are you collecting? Hotel points? Then there is no issue and discussion of closing the card.’

          There may be a broader considerations. For example you could take out Amex Gold, free for first year with Lounge Pass with the option of transferring to either Hilton, Marriott and Radisson at better rates.

    • Lev441 says:

      In a nutshell, based on the conversion bonus transferring 60k Marriotts at a time (to get the 5k airline bonus)

      Old rate 1.25 per £ spent
      New rate 0.83 per £ spent

      Not great.

    • The Urbanite says:

      I agree it is a raw deal for high spenders who wish to convert all of their points to airline miles, but how bothered are Marriott about this market?

      If it wasn’t for the availability of Amex MR and HSBC Premier points, the views on this may be a little different! Guessing there are quite a few on here actively points collecting for airlines that aren’t BA or Virgin!

    • Will says:

      Marriott do offer25% bonus miles once a year historically, that’s always made the card very worthwhile for me. It’s questionable now but flexibility is certainly useful.

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